kallend 1,935 #126 March 4, 2006 Quote> My oldest in her first year in college records as well with or without her prof. knowledge. So far have not heard any prof. going on any rants. . Serious ethical and possible legal breach if she does it without the instructor's consent. No different than recording a concert without consent.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #127 March 4, 2006 QuoteQuote> My oldest in her first year in college records as well with or without her prof. knowledge. So far have not heard any prof. going on any rants. . Serious ethical and possible legal breach if she does it without the instructor's consent. No different than recording a concert without consent. Just curious. Would you have a problem with one of your students recording you during class? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #128 March 4, 2006 QuoteI would also assert that if someone were to call me a Nazi, or say that because I voted for a Republican I am a Nazi, then I would feel no shame in beating that person into a bloody pulp... hear me now ....believe me later This is a surprisingly unconcealed threat against another person. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #129 March 4, 2006 NO its a statement of how it makes me feel as I have been accused of being a Nazi for my appearance... with that being said, do you have a problem with my lack of tolerance in the use of that fucking word? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #130 March 4, 2006 So... you deny the pundits on the Reich wing do it all the time??? Get real QuoteI would also assert that if someone were to call me a Nazi, or say that because I voted for a Republican I am a Nazi, then I would feel no shame in beating that person into a bloody pulp... hear me now ....believe me later Love the threat of personal harm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #131 March 4, 2006 so you've got a quote that you've latched onto there. problem is: the historical circumstances of pre-ww2 germany and the historical circumstances of america post 9-11 aren't the same. your comparison is therefore invalid in my opinion and furthermore, i think that you're kinda out-to-lunch in your conclusion drawing about sociology and politics. but, don't get all worked up; i'm just a war mongering nazi out to make the world just like me after all. "Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #132 March 4, 2006 http://www.hitler.org/speeches/ Go read a few of these and see if you find anything that sounds familiar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #133 March 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote> My oldest in her first year in college records as well with or without her prof. knowledge. So far have not heard any prof. going on any rants. . Serious ethical and possible legal breach if she does it without the instructor's consent. No different than recording a concert without consent. Just curious. Would you have a problem with one of your students recording you during class? Not if they ask first. I have several students recording in my freshman class this semester.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #134 March 4, 2006 QuoteNO its a statement of how it makes me feel as I have been accused of being a Nazi for my appearance... While it IS a statement of your feelings, it's ALSO clearly a threat of physical violence. Quotewith that being said, do you have a problem with my lack of tolerance in the use of that fucking word? Yes, if your intolerance is so powerful that it causes you to threaten (or inflict) physical violence. Get a hold of yourself. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #135 March 4, 2006 go do some research and put some context on your "historical analogies" and see if you start learning something."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #136 March 4, 2006 See I didnt think you would take the oportunity to educate yourself...Sad.. very very SAD But completely expected considering your threat against me earlier in the thread.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #137 March 4, 2006 QuoteSee I didnt think you would take the oportunity to educate yourself...Sad.. very very SAD But completely expected. huh...how 'bout that...neither have you apparantly. i guess we're both just sad...so, so sad. i know someone soon is going to suggest that we just fuck and get it over with. i wonder what my reich sperm and your commie eggs would produce? Quotethreat against you earlier... well, now it's confirmed that you live in fantasy land. as i recall, i extended you the opportunity to "stick godwin's law where the sun don't shine" anytime you saw fit. the offer still stands."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #138 March 4, 2006 Dont flatter yourself..... If I was the last woman on earth....and I only had men( and I use that term loosely) with these kinda attitudes about people and our country....I would blow my fucking brains out and let the human race die out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #139 March 4, 2006 I recently combined country line dancing with goose-stepping. It's actually really cool. It allows me to express the red-neck in me combined with my desire to enslave, rape and pillage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #140 March 4, 2006 QuoteDont flatter yourself..... If I was the last woman on earth....and I only had men( and I use that term loosely) with these kinda attitudes about people and our country....I would blow my fucking brains out and let the human race die out. your cute when you're angry! don't let me ruffle your feathers; i'm just some ignorant fool you know. "Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #141 March 4, 2006 QuoteIt allows me to express the red-neck in me combined with my desire to enslave, rape and pillage. Nah I was thinking of the loss of privacy, loss of personal freedoms for Americans, sleaziness factor.. you know all that stuff the Recih Wing is getting so good at these days....Libby, Cunningham... Rove.....Delay... K Street.... the list just goes on and on... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #142 March 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt allows me to express the red-neck in me combined with my desire to enslave, rape and pillage. Nah I was thinking of the loss of privacy, loss of personal freedoms for Americans, sleaziness factor.. you know all that stuff the Recih Wing is getting so good at these days....Libby, Cunningham... Rove.....Delay... K Street.... the list just goes on and on... Oh pooh. Damn uppity woman. Git yo ass back in the kitchen and make me some pizza. And fetch me a beer while your in there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #143 March 4, 2006 QuoteI recently combined country line dancing with goose-stepping. It's actually really cool. It allows me to express the red-neck in me combined with my desire to enslave, rape and pillage. Now that was funny! Amazon, is it that time of the month?!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #144 March 4, 2006 QuoteAnother wonderful example of bypassing the substance for the semantics. People who agree will say: "Free Speech!" People who disagree will say: "Indoctrinating our Youth!" Undoubtedly, you will see pages of this crap go back and forth with out a single mention of how good of a teacher is this guy or is he trying to stimulate people into actually _using_ their brains. Nope, forget that. "Free Speech!" "Indoctrinating our youth!" The guy is a Geography teacher. And he flat fucking lied as to what Bush said in his speech. He is an ass hat and should be fired!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #145 March 4, 2006 QuoteSerious ethical and possible legal breach if she does it without the instructor's consent. No different than recording a concert without consent. The teacher's lawyer was on Fox, he said knowledge by one party is all that's required in Colorado. It was a non-issue to him, he wasn't pursuing the case in that direction.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #146 March 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnything is possible.... but obviously the students were upset over SOMEthing that was said. A student.... one... who recorded him because the teacher does not suscribe to his particular viewpoint. I listened to the student this morning on Fox News.. Kinda reminded me of how the students were required to report on thier teachers in 1930's Germany.. BWAAAHAHAHA! never fails... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Doesn't apply. Godwin's law refers to the first comparison with Hitler or Nazis in a discussion thread. Since the thread itself began by commenting on such a comparison subsequent references are moot. I have two things to say about this. First, high school students are far from mindless zombies that we have to protect from teachers who express strong opinions, even such objectional opinions as were on that tape. Second, in America there is no inherent right to not be offended. That's the beauty of our country and it should be celebrated by all. Otherwise, we become no better than the people who burned those Danish embassies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #147 March 4, 2006 QuoteDoesn't apply. Godwin's law refers to the first comparison with Hitler or Nazis in a discussion thread. Since the thread itself began by commenting on such a comparison subsequent references are moot. I can find no such evidence in Godwin's Law. Godwin's Law simply states that once the reference is made, the "usefullness" of the thread is over and whomever made the comparison has lost the argument. To continue after the invocation of Godwins Law is effectively the same thing as fucking dead sheep. edited to add: I have emailed Mike Godwin regarding your claim and will report once I have his decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #148 March 4, 2006 Godwin's email address is no longer valid. Here's some additional laws to consider. The Wilcox/McCandlish Law Of Online Discourse Evolution (and Corollaries) THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW OF ONLINE DISCOURSE EVOLUTION The chance of success of any attempt to change the topic or direction of a thread of discussion in a networked forum is directly proportional to the quality of the current content. MCCANDLISH'S FIRST COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW The chance of any change to the topic or direction of a thread being a change for the better is inversely proportional to the quality of the content before the change. THE EXCEPTION TO MCCANDLISH'S FIRST COROLLARY When a thread reaches the flame-war stage, all changes in thread topic or direction will be changes for the worse. MCCANDLISH'S SECOND COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW Thread bandwidth consumption increases in inverse proportion to thread content quality. WILCOX'S COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW The more involved one is in a flame-war, the less likely one is to recognize it as such. THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH PARADOX Thread degeneration can (theoretically) be forestalled or even reversed by citation to the Wilcox/McCandlish Law. BENFORD'S LAW OF CONTROVERSY Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available. - Gregory Benford, 1980. SIEGFRIED'S FIRST COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW Flaming first just means that you haven't realized yet that you're waaaay behind on points. SIEGFRIED'S SECOND COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW Not responding to a flame is the ultimate counter-attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #149 March 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteYour going skydiving kinda reminds me of how paratroopers in WWII were required to jump out of planes into enemy territory to fight or die for victory... The GI's VOLUNTEERED to jump out of planes in WW II I did the same 30 some odd years later. Far different from your analogy. How is it that something so easily passes right over the head of one so tall? Of course my analogy was way off. It was to illustrate how off YOUR comparison was, between this kid complaining about the teacher and kids being obligated to do the same under Hitler. Geeeez... I guess it's just time for me to stop tryin', with you. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #150 March 4, 2006 QuoteAmazon, is it that time of the month?!? Wow kewl... mysogeny.... No wonder youlike Ralphs place....anti-gay... anti black... anti woman.. sounds like a poster child for the Oregon Citizens Alliance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
