I need a gun. What should I get?

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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I need something with a large range.

"Long range" and "self defense" do not pair well in court :)

They do for the prosecutors!

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[airfury17 0]

Well when I bought the Ar-15 with my freind. we got a free case with 500 rounds. Also 2 magazines. We have not needed to buy anything since then because we only shoot for fun and becuase we are both away at school and College. But I will let you know the price when I get back home and have to buy some. I remember However the lady stating its a bit expensive for a .223 round. Unless you buy them in bulk and online.



Now back to this point. I hope this guy is kidding. Maybe he is dead already Bummer.
Also before he buys a 5,000$ machine gun hire a security man. Like a body gaurd with a 100 inch chest to watch all the bullets in. Also make sure he is armed. I am sure with all this you and your girl will be just fine.

[airfury17 0]

that was supposed to be Catch all the bullets. Watching just doesnt work. Yes A human Shield! is what he needs

[Nightingale 0]

I hope you're making this up. If not:

get a shotgun and go to the range and learn how to use it. A gun won't do you any good if you don't know 100% how to use it.

go to the police. If she witnessed a murder, she needs to report it.

[skydvr18 0]

So she left without showing up...how does one manage to do that????

Did she ever bang anybody in exchange for money? If not, there's no crime. A person can plan all they want to, but "planning" isn't a crime.

Go to the cops, seriously...you're talking about buying a gun you can spray because you can't aim. You'll kill yourself and your girlfriend before you ever even get the chance to defend yourselves.

[warpedskydiver 0]

well in the interest of keeping everything legal for you maybe we shoud just bange her for free ...that way she won't have a guilt complex over it...

anything to help out a fellow jumper

[airtwardo 7]

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Stop teaching shit... I'm trying to live in ignorant bliss!

Now I gotta go un-learn something to keep my ignorant level just right

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I'm the same way...the 'hard drive' is 'bout full!

I'd go with Parallel Parking...who ever needs that anyway?!

Gonna wanna hang on to the emergency procedures file as long as possible...

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[ViperPilot 0]

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And then you get "Garand thumb"!! LaughLaughLaughPirate

Ahhh good ol garrand thumb...did it once, then went w/ what airtwardo said.

And for everyone who's saying .223 is expensive...how poor are you? You can get a 1000 rounds for a 100 bucks, plus shipping, so about 11-12 cents per round...that's pretty good. And that's for brand new stuff...I'm sure you can find some surplus crap somewhere. Plus, an AR-15 is for good fun, not for protection...that's the last one of my collection I would grab if some idiot broke into my house.

Thirdly, 99% of "informed" gun owners/operators use "magazine" vs "clip." The only time I ever hear them interchanged is from people who don't know as much, and I don't give a shit b/c I know what they mean. Nonetheless, I almost never hear people "in the know" use them incorrectly.

P.S. mneal - It was easier to say everythig in one post, the only thing applying to you is the garrand thing.

[skydvr18 0]

Well-said, Viper, on the AR-15...mine has a pistol grip, flash suppressor, and 30-round magazine...but I can assure you that with an intruder, I'm a lot more dangerous with my 12-gauge semi-auto buckshot!!

And I agree on the whole issue of "clip" vs. "magazine"...I compare that to "chute" vs. "canopy." How long do the rest of you wait for your "pilot canopy" to extract your main "chute"???? They're just words, people...if a whuffo says "chute" or "canopy," I know the difference, just as a gun-nut would know the difference between "clip" and "magazine." Not relevant to this troll's whore-girlfriend (check out the posts he's started...got a bit too much time on his hands??).

[ViperPilot 0]

Dude, just hire the Mob to help you out. They'll take care of the guys threatening you...for a nominal fee ;). Unless they are the mob, then you're screwed...no one defeats the Mob!

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Dude, just hire the Mob to help you out. They'll take care of the guys threatening you...for a nominal fee ;). Unless they are the mob, then you're screwed...no one defeats the Mob!

Actually, "Stingray" is the man you want.

Or the Equalizer with his Jag...

Or, if you can find them, The A-Team!


When he actually went ahead and said that he wanted a grenade launcher, and that bullshit about the law in Florida meaning you can just shoot anyone you are worried about, I took this thread to be a total farce. (Actually, it started a while before that.)

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[Sick_Of_It_All 0]

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A person can plan all they want to, but "planning" isn't a crime.

Actually, planning is a crime, it's called conspiracy. I had a buddy get arrested in New Orleans at Mardi Gras because he said he wanted to buy some marijuana. He didn't say this to anyone posing as a dealer, he said out loud in a bar: "Man I wish I knew where to buy some weed around here!" The charge was "Attempt/Conspiracy to posses illegal substance". I shit you not.

[skydvr18 0]

Good point. But your friend got hosed!! According to the Model Penal Code, in order for a crime to take place, a person must DO something illegal (called "actus reus", or "guilty act"). For conspiracy, a person "must take substantial steps toward the criminal objective."

Sounds to me like your buddy was just thinking out loud. Had he actually ASKED around or offered money, then yeah, that would probably be conspiracy. I doubt most people would consider thinking out loud to be a "substantial step toward the criminal objective."

Relating this to the troll's whore-wannabe girlfriend, yeah, it's possible that they could get busted for conspiracy. Their best defense would be that she backed out of it. Good point, Sick_Of_It_All

Edit to add: Of course, Louisiana law is whacked..they still use a lot of French law

[Sick_Of_It_All 0]

I doubt there are to many police that know/care about the penal code in detail. That was what they arrested him for, he was just thinking out loud.. Maybe with intent, but he certainly didn't commit the crime with which he was charged. Lucky for him the judge felt the same way he did. Unlucky for him he had to drive back to New Orleans from Miami to appear in court

However, with the troll whoring out his girlfriend... They apparently agreed on sex for money as she was on her way to the client, so in the eyes of the law, she did commit conspiracy.

[skydvr18 0]

Yeah, I've gotta agree with you...they took "substantial steps" to whore her out. So he says...I still say it's a bunch of BS.

[AggieDave 6]

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I doubt there are to many police that know/care about the penal code in detail.

You don't know many cops do you? I say that because you're wrong.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Sick_Of_It_All 0]

Let me rephrase - I have not met many cops that know/care (maybe they are just pretending so they can pray on those uneducated about laws) about penal code. Every cop that has EVER f**ked with me pretty much does what they want regardless of law. As a matter of fact, just 2 weeks ago I was pulled over with my 9 month old puppy in my truck. The cop said to me "If that dog so much as sticks a paw out the window I'll kill it." I said "Excuse me? There is no need to make threats." (my dog was sitting in the passenger seat next to me not moving or barking/growling) He repeated "If that dog comes out this window I'm going to fire my weapon into your vehicle and you better hope you aren't in the way." I informed him that what he just said to me under Florida law was assault. His response "No it isn't, I can say that if I want." I informed his watch commander who offered to come to my house and take a report so I could file charges against the officer. I declined. Either he doesn't know the law, or like most cops I've dealt with operates at his own free will.

Please note: Everything I have said is from personal experience and my own opinion, and I do doubt there are to many police who care about penal code when it comes to making arrests and obtaining evidence. They leave that up to the D.A. to try and make it work, which is why a lot of cases get thrown out for sloppy police work.

[Sick_Of_It_All 0]

Not trying to bash on cops, just the bad ones, which seem to be to many of them. At least in my area. I do happen to know a few cops personally, and honestly, it scares me that they are out policing society and upholding the law. They, along with many cops I see everyday, think they are above the law. Speeding, cutting people off, doing illegal search and seizures, smoking weed at home, etc... Cops are people just like everyone else, just because they are suppose to know something and suppose to follow rules doesn't mean they do. There are a lot of good cops, but I think a majority of cops take the power to their head and have fun while they're "at work".

That is all I have to say on that topic in this thread.

[skydvr18 0]

"or like most cops I've dealt with operates at his own free will."

That's been my experience with most cops. One of the ways they are "graded" is based on the number of arrests they make. Cops try really hard to catch somebody doing something illegal, just so they can make an arrest...sometimes even making something up or stretching things, like arresting your friend for conspiracy.

And I think there are many cops, like the one that you had a run-in with, that think they're above the law because they wear a badge. Cops are corrupt.

[Sick_Of_It_All 0]

One last thing on the topic....

Can we say Revenue Generation? Social Control?

It isn't about YOUR safety! It's about safety of government and filling their pockets with the green stuff.

[skydvr18 0]

I'm with you...not trying to bash ALL cops, just the bad ones. And there appears to be plenty of them. A friend of mine (sorta) is a local cop, and he gave me his cell number and said, "If you ever have a problem, call me. Forget 911, our police force is pretty lousy. You can't trust them." He even told me specifically the names of some of the cops who are corrupt, that I "should avoid at all costs."

Overall, I don't trust the police. When I've called them in the past for trespassers or noise complaints, they end up questioning me for the rest of the night (looking for trouble).

[skydvr18 0]

"filling their pockets with the green stuff" EXACTLY!!!!

[dontbounce 0]

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clearly this calls for a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world.

Do you feel lucky...Punk?

Actually the .44 was replaced by the .454 "raging bull", then the .500, then the .600.

The .44 magnum is the 4th most powerful handgun in the world. Just doesnt have the same ring, does it? That movie was made in the 70's... lol

The the other guy pimping his girl out.. WTF? Get a job, creep!

...and then pick up a Mossberg Model 500 12 gauge pump with pistol grips. Go from Zero to Hero in one pump. Will run you about $150.00 in any pawn shop, and will put a hole in your enemy that your cat can jump through.

P.S. If the bad guys are wearing body armor, they probably arent wearing it on their knees, elbows, or head. Let that be your guide.

Cheers,

[lurch 0]

and will put a hole in your enemy that your cat can jump through.



BWAHAHA!!!! Thats it, perfect score, 100%, coffee-spray factor of a SOLID 10.0!!!
And SOOO true... just went shooting with a friend at a local range. Brought this old remington 870 express 12-gauge. The range only allows slugs through shotguns. Fine by me. After sending a couple pounds of lead through the other guy's beretta I brought out the big dog. Imagine a busy shooting range with constant gunfire as background noise. I brought up the big gauge and let off a single slug.
BOOOOM.
The entire range went dead silent and a voice echoed from one of the other slots "What the hell was THAT?"
Very gratifying result.

Live and learn... or die, and teach by example.

[dontbounce 0]

Thanks!

Also, don't get an AR15. The holes are tiny, and the bullets go really fast (no/little shock wave created by the bullet). When you have tiny fast bullets, you could theoretically shoot somebody 15 times at a range of 5-15 feet and they could still come at you because they have many tiny, thin little holes drilled in them (as opposed to one big one that your cat could jump through. I guarantee you that will stop them cold ).

If you want something for "long range self defense" (if there is such a thing), get a Russian or Chinese AK-47 style gun, something that shoots a 7.62x39 cartridge. The bullets are a lot fatter, the shells pack a lot more juice and you can use either full metal jackets (long range) or softpoints (great stopping power).

The AR15 definitely has "Movie Star Appeal" because it is definitely an "Assault Rifle", but if you want a better weapon, get a Chinese SKS, an AKS-74, AK-47, or similar. If you want to impress your girl with your "soldier-of-fortune pose", get the AR-15. Or, you could spend the money on her so she doesn't have to whore herself out to mobsters...

Or, go with my original suggestion, the 8-shot, 12ga Mossberg Model 500 Pump with pistol grips. Just the "chk-chk" noise it makes when you chamber a round is enough to give even the hardest of the hard a little skidmark in their britches.