Alcohol destroys families and drunk people suck

[crozby 0]

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I think it is pitiful when someone basically says, "YeeHa - I drank a lot of alcohol and I want everyone to know about it". What the hell kind of accomplishment is that?

Maybe you're just misunderstanding them.

When i or my friends talk about how much we've drunk at an event, as in 'you should have been there, it was carnage, we all got utterly shitfaced', we are not bragging, we are simply stating we had a fun time (or think we did, but we really can't remember).

[sundevil777 102]

Just wanted to say it again, so I resurrected an old thread.

Getting drunk is nothing to brag about.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[Amazon 7]

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Just wanted to say it again, so I resurrected an old thread.

Getting drunk is nothing to brag about.

No kidding...

Yet it seems to be a daily occurence by some

[steve1 5]

Anyone who has grown up in an alcoholic home knows the devastating affects of alcohol.

As a counselor I work with a lot of kids from alcoholic and drug addicted homes. Probably the most angry kids anywhere come out of this kind of home. They've been hurt over and over. No wonder they don't function well in a school or anywhere else for that matter.

So, I agree alcohol often does destroy homes and ruin lives.

I watched my brother die of alcoholism. He was a chip off the old block. He was a drunk just like my Dad. I only have one other brother. We are worried that he too may die of alcoholism.

Why does he drink? It might be to cope with all the crappy memories he has of growing up in an alcoholic home.....

[JohnRich 4]

I think you should have to provide identification when purchasing alcohol, and anyone with a history of alcohol abuse, like a drunk-driving conviction, should be denied the purchase. Of course, this means a massive national database of criminal and health records from all 50 states, and civil rights folks will get their hackles up. If you don't want an alcohol purchase instant check system, then perhaps an alcohol license should be issued. You display it at time of purchase, indicating you're approved by the government. To get the alcohol license you have to attend a class on the dangers of drinking, and a background check will be run to ensure you're clean of any alcohol-related offenses. If you abuse your drinking privilege, then the government yanks your license, and you can no longer purchase alcohol.

Since tens of thousands of people die from misuse of alcohol every year, isn't it time that America stepped up and did something about it? It's a small price to pay to prevent needless tragedy. Responsible drinkers will just have to accept some inconvenience, for the greater good. To insist otherwise, is just pure selfishness.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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I think you should have to provide identification when purchasing alcohol, and anyone with a history of alcohol abuse, like a drunk-driving conviction, should be denied the purchase. Of course, this means a massive national database of criminal records from all 50 states, and civil rights folks will get their hackles up. If you don't want an alcohol purchase instant check system, then perhaps an alcohol license should be issued. You display it at time of purchase, indicating you're approved by the government. To get the alcohol license you have to attend a class on the dangers of drinking, and a background check will be run to ensure you're clean of any alcohol-related offenses. If you abuse your drinking privilege, then the government yanks your license, and you can no longer purchase alcohol.

Since tens of thousands of people die from misuse of alcohol every year, isn't it time that America stepped up and did something about it? It's a small price to pay to prevent needless tragedy. Responsible drinkers will just have to accept some inconvenience, for the greater good. To insist otherwise, is just pure selfishness.

Do you think vendors at gun shows should have to check this directory before selling someone a firearm?

[BikerBabe 0]

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I think you should have to provide identification when purchasing alcohol, and anyone with a history of alcohol abuse, like a drunk-driving conviction, should be denied the purchase. Of course, this means a massive national database of criminal records from all 50 states, and civil rights folks will get their hackles up. If you don't want an alcohol purchase instant check system, then perhaps an alcohol license should be issued. You display it at time of purchase, indicating you're approved by the government. To get the alcohol license you have to attend a class on the dangers of drinking, and a background check will be run to ensure you're clean of any alcohol-related offenses. If you abuse your drinking privilege, then the government yanks your license, and you can no longer purchase alcohol.

Since tens of thousands of people die from misuse of alcohol every year, isn't it time that America stepped up and did something about it? It's a small price to pay to prevent needless tragedy. Responsible drinkers will just have to accept some inconvenience, for the greater good. To insist otherwise, is just pure selfishness.

hehe.

to use an internet forum meme: "I see what you did there!" tricky tricky

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[JohnRich 4]

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Do you think vendors at gun shows should have to check this directory before selling someone a firearm?

I'll make you a trade. I'll agree that all gun show firearm sales should require a background check, if you'll agree that all alcohol sales should also undergo a background check. Deal?

[rehmwa 2]

Look, I don't want to make alcohol illegal, I just want to control it in a reasonable fashion:


Liquor should be legal except for the following:
1 - any bottles over 9 inches tall
2 - if the liquor has a fancy cap,
3 - if the liquor is modified with a continuous pour spout - and legal pour spouts should be modified to only issue one 'shot' every 2 hours
4 - if the liquor bottle 'looks' like an illegal bottle
5 - liquor that comes with free sample 'mini-bottles' in the packaging
6 - people should only own one bottle at a time - I mean, REALLY, who 'needs' more than one
7 - there should be no lead in the packaging - at all - think of the children
8 - cap locks would be mandatory

sniff - If we could save just ONE LIFE, it would all be worth it

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[wmw999 2,382]

Brilliant.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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Do you think vendors at gun shows should have to check this directory before selling someone a firearm?

I'll make you a trade. I'll agree that all gun show firearm sales should require a background check, if you'll agree that all alcohol sales should also undergo a background check. Deal?

Well since we know that guns are not a problem unless in the hands of an asshole or an idiot, and we also know that alcohol tends to make one both an asshole and an idiot, maybe we should just make it that alcoholics aren't allowed to buy guns, and gun owners are not allowed to buy alcohol.

[AWL71 0]

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I think you should have to provide identification when purchasing alcohol, and anyone with a history of alcohol abuse, like a drunk-driving conviction, should be denied the purchase. Of course, this means a massive national database of criminal records from all 50 states, and civil rights folks will get their hackles up. If you don't want an alcohol purchase instant check system, then perhaps an alcohol license should be issued. You display it at time of purchase, indicating you're approved by the government. To get the alcohol license you have to attend a class on the dangers of drinking, and a background check will be run to ensure you're clean of any alcohol-related offenses. If you abuse your drinking privilege, then the government yanks your license, and you can no longer purchase alcohol.

Since tens of thousands of people die from misuse of alcohol every year, isn't it time that America stepped up and did something about it? It's a small price to pay to prevent needless tragedy. Responsible drinkers will just have to accept some inconvenience, for the greater good. To insist otherwise, is just pure selfishness.

Great Post! Alcohol is allowed to destroy numerous lives because it is accepted by most of our society. Guns, which do far less damage than alcohol, are regulated because guns are not accepted by the majority of society.

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[rehmwa 2]

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guns are not accepted by the majority of society.

I'd question this statement.

I hear a minority that's loud and obnoxious and uneducated about guns that are against them for others.

I hear a minority that's loud and obnoxious and educated about guns that accept them for themselves or anyone else.

I do not hear a resounding majority that just don't talk much about it. I'd bet most of them are accepting of guns and private property rights and just aren't expressive about it.

i.e., "of course gun ownership is fine, why would you ask such an obvious question? It's really none of my business if my neighbors own or don't own one. Do you want to see mine? I have a couple I really like, and a couple nice collectors that my grandpa owned"

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[wmw999 2,382]

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i.e., "of course gun ownership is fine, why would you ask such an obvious question? It's really none of my business if my neighbors own or don't own one. Do you want to see mine? I have a couple I really like, and a couple nice collectors that my grandpa owned"

"and for fuck's sake take care of your guns and treat them like the tools they are. Don't use them like a 'bigger hammer' for relationship issues, and don't put them where some moron gets them when they break in or get drunk"

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[millertime24 8]

Brag about? Depends on who you talk to. What I have a difficult time understanding is why some people feel it wrong for me to go home and get drunk (at home ie not going anywhere). Who am I hurting? I have no wife and sex trophies.....er I mean kids. Im not driving. So who, other than myself, is being affected by this?

Muff #5048

[d_squared431 0]

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Getting drunk is a crappy hobby.

So many seem to think it is something to brag about, even brag about it before doing it.

Alcohol sucks.

Some may think of it as a hobby where as other a lifestyle. As long as their lifestyles do not effect anyone elses life then why should it matter if they drink and or brag about drinking? Enjoy and or love the person for who they are and not what they do. Isn't that the key to life? Live and let live as one chooses to?

TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1
I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH
You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly

[billvon 2,894]

>Enjoy and or love the person for who they are and not what they do.

The two are pretty closely related, and indeed most people self-identify by what they do. Many people here identify themselves as skydivers, rather than ethical but slightly overweight protestants. (for example.)

[Lindsey 0]

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Why does he drink? It might be to cope with all the crappy memories he has of growing up in an alcoholic home.....

or it may simply be because he's an alcoholic. It's what alcoholics do. Addiction is devastating. I hope your brother finds his way out.

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[Amazon 7]

Welcome Back

[d_squared431 0]

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>Enjoy and or love the person for who they are and not what they do.

The two are pretty closely related, and indeed most people self-identify by what they do. Many people here identify themselves as skydivers, rather than ethical but slightly overweight protestants. (for example.)

That is the problem. Why is it people need to be identified for what they do and not by who they are?

I am sure there is more to you and the other greenies than just being know as a mod on this site. But if people see you as only being a greenie then they will never see there is more to you than that. That is the sad part about classifying someone as what they do and not who they are.

TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1
I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH
You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly

[billvon 2,894]

>I am sure there is more to you and the other greenies than just being
>know as a mod on this site. But if people see you as only being a greenie
>then they will never see there is more to you than that.

Right. But the other things that I am are also things that I do. I'm also an engineer and a skydiver, and I'm doing video lately. I've set a few world records, got a few patents, invented a few things. That's how I identify myself.

Ask yourself this. Imagine you asked someone who they were. Which answer is more useful?

"I'm a skydiver, and I compete in triathlons every once in a while. I work as a lawyer and I live in Denver."

"I am blood type A negative, I have a kidneystone. My parents were German and English."

Which statement better tells you who they are?

[jclalor 12]

I once went 11 years without a drink...........


Then I turned 12.

[SkyBastard 0]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what's the problem? it's great. now, where did i leave my car keys?

Dude #320
"Superstitious" is just a polite way of saying "incredibly fucking stupid".
DONK!

[georgerussia 0]

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Well since we know that guns are not a problem unless in the hands of an asshole or an idiot, and we also know that alcohol tends to make one both an asshole and an idiot, maybe we should just make it that alcoholics aren't allowed to buy guns, and gun owners are not allowed to buy alcohol.

That's a good idea! I think we should also extend it that if you ever buy alcohol, the store must check that you were not issued, or properly surrendered a driver license (to prevent drunk driving), and that you also do not own or have in possession a vehicle (to prevent drunk driving without license).

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[Bolas 5]

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what's the problem? it's great. now, where did i leave my car keys?

I think your kid hid them. Better smack 'em around a bit.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.