tunaplanet 0 #1 December 16, 2004 Here Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #2 December 16, 2004 Yeah, that's an objective site, with "'Bush Country' Mousepads" -and - "Support Mel Gibson and The Passion. Impose your values on Hollywood. Visit Passion for Fairness" ads on the side... It's neocon shit worthy of the Two Pats, and it's about as objective as Al Franken and Rush Limbaugh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #3 December 16, 2004 The "liberal bias" would have nothing to do with the fact that Shrub has screwed up everything he has touched in the last four years, would it? There is no liberal media. If there were, do you really think Clinton would have had to endure Ken Star's witchhunt over oral sex? I suppose you believe Rush is unbiased and honest, right?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #4 December 16, 2004 QuoteAccording to Groseclose and Milyo, the most liberally biased news product is the Wall Street Journal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #5 December 16, 2004 Let's put their methods to the test. If I mention The Weekly Standard in this post, then it's a conservative post. That's just stupid.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 December 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteAccording to Groseclose and Milyo, the most liberally biased news product is the Wall Street Journal Gotta love comedy!!_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3ringheathen 0 #7 December 17, 2004 This from a website with Limbaugh and Falwell as contibuting authors. Oh the irony! -Josh If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me* *Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #8 December 17, 2004 Quote There is no liberal media. Your TV must be fixed so that only FoxNews comes through. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #9 December 17, 2004 QuoteYour TV must be fixed so that only FoxNews comes through. I don't watch television anymore, except for the occasional movie. I get my news from NPR and news.google, which is set as my homepage, so I see a lotof variety. The thing that pisses me off about the media is how they report on Israeli/Palestine to make it sound one sided, like Palestinians are the bad guys, when they are the ones taking all the casualties and losing all their homes. I don't know how anyone could consider that a liberal slant.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #10 December 17, 2004 QuoteThe thing that pisses me off about the media is how they report on Israeli/Palestine to make it sound one sided, like Palestinians are the bad guys, when they are the ones taking all the casualties and losing all their homes. I don't know how anyone could consider that a liberal slant. Where did you say you get your news from? How many bombings have occurred in Israel this year? Does Israel openly call for eradication of the Palestinians? So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteYour TV must be fixed so that only FoxNews comes through. I don't watch television anymore, except for the occasional movie. I get my news from NPR and news.google, which is set as my homepage, so I see a lotof variety. The thing that pisses me off about the media is how they report on Israeli/Palestine to make it sound one sided, like Palestinians are the bad guys, when they are the ones taking all the casualties and losing all their homes. I don't know how anyone could consider that a liberal slant. What do you think would happen if the Palestinians stopped blowing themselves and the Israelis up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #12 December 17, 2004 Quote What do you think would happen if the Palestinians stopped blowing themselves and the Israelis up? Same thing that happened to Native American Indians. They'd be forced off their land to live where nobody else wanted to. On the plus side, maybe some day they'd get to open a casino. BTW, I'm not "for" either side here, but there is more than one side to the story.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #13 December 17, 2004 QuoteWhere did you say you get your news from? How many bombings have occurred in Israel this year? Does Israel openly call for eradication of the Palestinians? I believe I said http:/news.google.com and http://npr.org For your second question, you might also want to check out http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/arccrisis/ispal-casualty.html http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/bad-news.html http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ As for your last question, I believe actions speak louder than words. Does it really matter if Sharon openly calls for eradication (and I'm not sure he hasn't).Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #14 December 17, 2004 Palestinians taking all the casualties? Is NPR not reporting homicide bombings then? Or do you just ignore the many, many, many stories where Israelis are killed by homicide bombers? Your TV isn't set to FoxNews or you'd know differently. I was wrong. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #15 December 17, 2004 QuotePalestinians taking all the casualties? Is NPR not reporting homicide bombings then? Or do you just ignore the many, many, many stories where Israelis are killed by homicide bombers? Run the numbers...he's right. Many many more palestinians are killed for every Israeli. Not saying that's wrong considering the circumstance there, but it is a fact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #16 December 17, 2004 Agreed. While still trying to figure out how 2 wrongs make a right... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #17 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuote What do you think would happen if the Palestinians stopped blowing themselves and the Israelis up? QuoteSame thing that happened to Native American Indians. They'd be forced off their land to live where nobody else wanted to. Actually, they already were by Jordan. I highly doubt they would be forced off their land by Israel because it would create too much reaction worldwide if Israel tried. I believe if the Palestinians stop blowing themselves up, that Israel would be willing to stop retaliating. Of course the Palestinians have never tried peace, because they don't want it (at least under Arafats rule). QuoteOn the plus side, maybe some day they'd get to open a casino. They should only hope they would be so lucky. I think that's extremely doubtful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #18 December 17, 2004 Quote I highly doubt they would be forced off their land by Israel because it would create too much reaction worldwide if Israel tried. Where do you think the Palestinians lived before Israel came to be?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #19 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteAccording to Groseclose and Milyo, the most liberally biased news product is the Wall Street Journal Have you compared the news section to the editorial section in that paper? They must hate each other! The news in the WSJ ranks right out there with the LATimes and NYPost sometimes. It's correct. --- this story has been reported in other sources as well.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #20 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuote I highly doubt they would be forced off their land by Israel because it would create too much reaction worldwide if Israel tried. Where do you think the Palestinians lived before Israel came to be? A.D. or B.C.? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #21 December 17, 2004 Learn something about history today? Glad to be of service.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #22 December 17, 2004 QuoteLearn something about history today? Glad to be of service. Yep Tuna throws a bon into the ring leaves and a debate starts based on political lines that dosen't settle squat Very effient use of resources on tuna's part. R.I.P. R.I.P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #23 December 17, 2004 QuoteLearn something about history today? Glad to be of service. Oh yeah Quade, you are the great teacher. Should I send you a nickle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #24 December 17, 2004 Aw come on . . . admit it . . . you're actually happy you learned something. You're just sad you had to learn it from me. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #25 December 17, 2004 QuoteWhere do you think the Palestinians lived before Israel came to be? I’m not claiming all of this is accurate since I am admittedly not a history buff and I can't even verify exactly who compiled it, however, I thought it was interesting. I’m not arguing a point. I was just curious. What do you think? Who was in Israel first, the Jews or Palestinians Posted on 12/05/2001 7:50:45 PM PST by 100American. Here are 20 conveniently overlooked facts that give some perspective to the current Middle East situation. 1. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam. 2. Arab refugees began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. 3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. 4.The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. 5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 hundred times in Bible. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. 7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. 8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem. 9. Arab and Jewish refugees: Arabs were not driven out of their homes. Following the UN decision on Partition in 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, promising to purge the land of Jews. They argued that an "Arab presence" would only get in the way of the planned devastation. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. 10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. 11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees absorbed by Israel from Arab countries is estimated to be the same. 12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples'lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. 13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won. 14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank and autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied their police and security forces with weapons. 15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Jewish grave markers were used to build public urinals in occupied Jerusalem. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths. 16. The U.N. record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel -- notwithstanding the fact that the Arabs refused to participate in the 15 nation United Nations Commission of Palestine which recommended partition in 1948 and sought immediately to undo its work by force of arms. 17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel. 18. The U.N. was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians between 1948 and 1967. 19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives between 1948 and 1967. 20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall between 1948 and 1967. 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quade 3 #18 December 17, 2004 Quote I highly doubt they would be forced off their land by Israel because it would create too much reaction worldwide if Israel tried. Where do you think the Palestinians lived before Israel came to be?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #19 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteAccording to Groseclose and Milyo, the most liberally biased news product is the Wall Street Journal Have you compared the news section to the editorial section in that paper? They must hate each other! The news in the WSJ ranks right out there with the LATimes and NYPost sometimes. It's correct. --- this story has been reported in other sources as well.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #20 December 17, 2004 QuoteQuote I highly doubt they would be forced off their land by Israel because it would create too much reaction worldwide if Israel tried. Where do you think the Palestinians lived before Israel came to be? A.D. or B.C.? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #21 December 17, 2004 Learn something about history today? Glad to be of service.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #22 December 17, 2004 QuoteLearn something about history today? Glad to be of service. Yep Tuna throws a bon into the ring leaves and a debate starts based on political lines that dosen't settle squat Very effient use of resources on tuna's part. R.I.P. R.I.P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #23 December 17, 2004 QuoteLearn something about history today? Glad to be of service. Oh yeah Quade, you are the great teacher. Should I send you a nickle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #24 December 17, 2004 Aw come on . . . admit it . . . you're actually happy you learned something. You're just sad you had to learn it from me. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #25 December 17, 2004 QuoteWhere do you think the Palestinians lived before Israel came to be? I’m not claiming all of this is accurate since I am admittedly not a history buff and I can't even verify exactly who compiled it, however, I thought it was interesting. I’m not arguing a point. I was just curious. What do you think? Who was in Israel first, the Jews or Palestinians Posted on 12/05/2001 7:50:45 PM PST by 100American. Here are 20 conveniently overlooked facts that give some perspective to the current Middle East situation. 1. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam. 2. Arab refugees began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. 3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. 4.The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. 5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 hundred times in Bible. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. 7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. 8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem. 9. Arab and Jewish refugees: Arabs were not driven out of their homes. Following the UN decision on Partition in 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, promising to purge the land of Jews. They argued that an "Arab presence" would only get in the way of the planned devastation. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. 10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. 11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees absorbed by Israel from Arab countries is estimated to be the same. 12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples'lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. 13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won. 14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank and autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied their police and security forces with weapons. 15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Jewish grave markers were used to build public urinals in occupied Jerusalem. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths. 16. The U.N. record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel -- notwithstanding the fact that the Arabs refused to participate in the 15 nation United Nations Commission of Palestine which recommended partition in 1948 and sought immediately to undo its work by force of arms. 17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel. 18. The U.N. was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians between 1948 and 1967. 19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives between 1948 and 1967. 20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall between 1948 and 1967. Who was there first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
