JohnRich 4 #1 December 13, 2004 Lancaster, Pennsylvania: A Democratic city councilman has demanded that a baker remove photos of President Bush from his stand in Lancaster's venerable farmers' market, saying the city needs a "healing period" following the bitterly contested presidential election. City Council member Nelson Polite approached David Stoltzfus last month and asked him to remove the pictures. When Stoltzfus refused, Polite vowed to pursue a city ordinance that would ban all political items from public places in the city. Polite said the photo offended city Democrats.Source Hellooo? Has Councilman Polite ever heard of "free speech"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #2 December 13, 2004 QuoteHellooo? Has Councilman Polite ever heard of "free speech"? Apparently not. He gets asshat of the day award. Of course he probably drives a horse and buggy, so ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #3 December 13, 2004 Free speech only applies to liberals. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #4 December 13, 2004 Yeah. I agree. That's stupid. I'm not really sure that City Council weenee Polite (seriously?) could ask the guy to remove a triptych of Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito, so I really don't understand this. Obviously idiots come in all shapes, sizes, colors and even parties.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #5 December 13, 2004 Ahhh...the beauty of generalization. Truth need not apply. Quote"It's fun. People are coming up to me and supporting me. I've been getting letters and phone calls," Stoltzfus said Friday. "Even the Democrats come to me and tell me, 'Don't take that picture down."' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #6 December 14, 2004 QuoteFree speech only applies to liberals. Now why you gotta go and insult our (dz.com) liberals, when they obviously don't agree? Shouldn't we all treasure the few times we can agree on something?--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #7 December 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteFree speech only applies to liberals. Now why you gotta go and insult our (dz.com) liberals, when they obviously don't agree? Shouldn't we all treasure the few times we can agree on something? OMG it's Armeggedon!!!! -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #8 December 14, 2004 QuoteFree speech only applies to liberals. Negative As you were 41 R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #9 December 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteFree speech only applies to liberals. Now why you gotta go and insult our (dz.com) liberals, when they obviously don't agree? Shouldn't we all treasure the few times we can agree on something? He is pretty quick on the draw, isn't he? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #10 December 14, 2004 QuoteFree speech only applies to liberals. Yeah. So zip your lip Tuna! Shhhht. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #11 December 14, 2004 that's just stupid. I hope the guy fights it in court and wins. Barring someone from displaying photos of the president is idiotic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3ringheathen 0 #12 December 14, 2004 Quotethat's just stupid. I hope the guy fights it in court and wins. Barring someone from displaying photos of the president is idiotic. Yeah. What he should have done is take an El Marko and draw a mustache and horns on the photo. -Josh If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me* *Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #13 December 14, 2004 Another Bush pic removed! http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/13/nyregion/13art.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #14 December 14, 2004 QuoteAhhh...the beauty of generalization. Truth need not apply. Quote"It's fun. People are coming up to me and supporting me. I've been getting letters and phone calls," Stoltzfus said Friday. "Even the Democrats come to me and tell me, 'Don't take that picture down."' He said Liberals not Democrats. There is a difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #15 December 14, 2004 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free speech only applies to liberals. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah. So zip your lip Tuna! Shhhht. Now, that is funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #16 December 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteAhhh...the beauty of generalization. Truth need not apply. Quote"It's fun. People are coming up to me and supporting me. I've been getting letters and phone calls," Stoltzfus said Friday. "Even the Democrats come to me and tell me, 'Don't take that picture down."' He said Liberals not Democrats. There is a difference. And Quade and I are both liberals, and we don't meet his description. Once again, generalizations are rarely true. Whether it's you or him making them and whether they're about democrats or liberals. You're both wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #17 December 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteAhhh...the beauty of generalization. Truth need not apply. Quote"It's fun. People are coming up to me and supporting me. I've been getting letters and phone Quotecalls," Stoltzfus said Friday. "Even the Democrats come to me and tell me, 'Don't take that picture down."' He said Liberals not Democrats. There is a difference. QuoteAnd Quade and I are both liberals, and we don't meet his description. It was pretty clear to me he wasn't talking about you or Quade. It was also pretty clear he didn't necessarily mean "all Liberals" or he would have said "all Liberals". QuoteOnce again, generalizations are rarely true. Whether it's you or him making them and whether they're about democrats or liberals. You're both wrong. I think you are reading too much into his statement. But that's pretty standard for Liberals (not all). Nice to see you admit you are a Liberal, though. Does this mean that from now on we can call you a Liberal without being accused of "labeling." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #18 December 14, 2004 QuoteIf you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me That's a nice quote! I'm saving that one if you don't mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #19 December 14, 2004 I just want to know when people are going to figure out that censorship is not a bad thing in private settings? It's property rights and their own right to express themselves. If the government has a hand in it, I'll be next in line to condemn it. But when you put art up in a private gallery, you play by the gallery's rules. If they say it comes down early, then it comes down early. Find a new gallery that likes your stuff better. Don't piss and moan about censorship.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Airman1270 0 #20 December 14, 2004 ...Once again, generalizations are rarely true... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Including this one. Jon S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnnyD 0 #21 December 14, 2004 QuoteI just want to know when people are going to figure out that censorship is not a bad thing in private settings? It's property rights and their own right to express themselves. If the government has a hand in it, I'll be next in line to condemn it. But when you put art up in a private gallery, you play by the gallery's rules. If they say it comes down early, then it comes down early. Find a new gallery that likes your stuff better. Don't piss and moan about censorship. This is censorship (or attempted) because a politician is trying to get a baker to remove a picture he doesn't like from the baker's stand. On the baker's stand, he can put up a picture of anyone he wants to and no one has the right to tell him to remove it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #22 December 14, 2004 I was replying to 434 and his NY Times article. Yes, the thread starter was an attempt at censorship and the councilmn should get a political smackdown.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnnyD 0 #23 December 14, 2004 QuoteI was replying to 434 and his NY Times article. Yes, the thread starter was an attempt at censorship and the councilmn should get a political smackdown. reg is required for the NYT article. could you paste it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #24 December 14, 2004 I use ID: Newslinks and password: Newslinks http://www.bugmenot.com/witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Clownburner 0 #25 December 14, 2004 If he has to take that down, I'd have to take down my picture of President Bush that I keep in my office. Free speech works both ways, it's sad when they don't realize it.7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
pajarito 0 #18 December 14, 2004 QuoteIf you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me That's a nice quote! I'm saving that one if you don't mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #19 December 14, 2004 I just want to know when people are going to figure out that censorship is not a bad thing in private settings? It's property rights and their own right to express themselves. If the government has a hand in it, I'll be next in line to condemn it. But when you put art up in a private gallery, you play by the gallery's rules. If they say it comes down early, then it comes down early. Find a new gallery that likes your stuff better. Don't piss and moan about censorship.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #20 December 14, 2004 ...Once again, generalizations are rarely true... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Including this one. Jon S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #21 December 14, 2004 QuoteI just want to know when people are going to figure out that censorship is not a bad thing in private settings? It's property rights and their own right to express themselves. If the government has a hand in it, I'll be next in line to condemn it. But when you put art up in a private gallery, you play by the gallery's rules. If they say it comes down early, then it comes down early. Find a new gallery that likes your stuff better. Don't piss and moan about censorship. This is censorship (or attempted) because a politician is trying to get a baker to remove a picture he doesn't like from the baker's stand. On the baker's stand, he can put up a picture of anyone he wants to and no one has the right to tell him to remove it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #22 December 14, 2004 I was replying to 434 and his NY Times article. Yes, the thread starter was an attempt at censorship and the councilmn should get a political smackdown.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #23 December 14, 2004 QuoteI was replying to 434 and his NY Times article. Yes, the thread starter was an attempt at censorship and the councilmn should get a political smackdown. reg is required for the NYT article. could you paste it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #24 December 14, 2004 I use ID: Newslinks and password: Newslinks http://www.bugmenot.com/witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #25 December 14, 2004 If he has to take that down, I'd have to take down my picture of President Bush that I keep in my office. Free speech works both ways, it's sad when they don't realize it.7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
