North Korean Train Collision - 3k casualties is initial report

[Casurf1978 0]

The story said KJI was there 9 hours prior to the accident. Wish he could've had a 9 hour delay or something.

[Michele 1]

From what I just heard on the news (regular, prime time news), NK is asking China for help...I'm not too sure what to think of that (other than I hope NK gets all the help it really needs).

And Mark Harju, your comment was atrocious. There is no "good riddance" to thousands killed because of an accident. None.

Ciels-
Michele

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While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Rescue teams? There are two reasons fo that.

The second reason is to assist and help out.

The first reason is to train for the Big One, which, by one account, should be here before September.

Oh, that's just great. Disaster will hit California, and we thought the prices of broccoli and artichokes were high already?!

Damn!
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-Jeffrey
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[Skyrad 0]

I don't think its just the American public, we're just as bad in the UK.

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[Remster 24]

The Red Cross announced this AM that the new estimate is about 54 dead and 1500 injured (saw this on CBC newsworld this AM)

Remster

[nacmacfeegle 0]

Beeb confirms a similar number, but also advises it was train load of explosives.
"North Korean government sources have been quoted as saying it was triggered when two train carriages carrying dynamite came into contact with a live power cable."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3651705.stm

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[Michele 1]

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The Red Cross announced this AM that the new estimate is about 54 dead and 1500 injured (saw this on CBC newsworld this AM)

I've heard that as well. I'm not sure we'll ever know for sure, but it's relieving to hear the possibility of far less dead than originally expected/estimated.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[Casurf1978 0]

I heard the same report, and some people found wreckage as far away as 10 miles. DAMN. NK said the explosives were going to be used for irrigation channels. Yeah right.

[lawrocket 3]

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The Red Cross announced this AM that the new estimate is about 54 dead and 1500 injured (saw this on CBC newsworld this AM)

Also remember that there were 3 dead in the Chernobyl incident, as it was reported the next day.

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[Skyrad 0]

Owch! Well good to hear the figures are so much lower but I guess we may never know how many died.

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[lawrocket 3]

New report is hundreds dead and several thousand injured, with many still trapped in collapsed buildings.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040423/ap_on_re_as/nkorea_train_explosion_37

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[Michele 1]

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Also remember that there were 3 dead in the Chernobyl incident, as it was reported the next day.

Yeah, I know. The count of 54 dead - when phones were cut, and news blackouts were instigated, seem odd. I don't know if we'll ever know the correct numbers.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[Gawain 0]

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I don't know if we'll ever know the correct numbers.

An AP article posted on Fox News, mentions that an intelligence source says a spy photo showed a blast devastated an area of about a half mile in radius -- (<< Clicky Story) including densely populated neighborhoods east of the train station.

The phones were cut by DPRK to keep news from leaking out.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[billvon 2,396]

>The phones were cut by DPRK to keep news from leaking out.

"Hey, maybe if we cut the phone lines no one will notice the fireball or the smoke."

[lawrocket 3]

Heck, with that explosion, maybe the phone lines were cut by a dang fireball.

This thing sounds to me as much like a tactical nuke as a train de-rail.

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[billvon 2,396]

>This thing sounds to me as much like a tactical nuke as a train de-rail.

Now, wouldn't that be an interesting discovery . . .

[Gawain 0]

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>This thing sounds to me as much like a tactical nuke as a train de-rail.

Now, wouldn't that be an interesting discovery . . .

If the "blast radius" report is true, the explosion could be measured in kilotons. Prior to the US testing "Trinity", we packed 100 tons of TNT to calibrate for the final event. .1 KT. Hmmm...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Michele 1]

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This thing sounds to me as much like a tactical nuke as a train de-rail.

Um, just out of curiousity, does anyone know:
a) what sort of "explosives" were on the train
b) of any other train derailment that caused this sort of damage?

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Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[Gawain 0]

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This thing sounds to me as much like a tactical nuke as a train de-rail.

Um, just out of curiousity, does anyone know:
a) what sort of "explosives" were on the train
b) of any other train derailment that caused this sort of damage?

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Clicky story from my earlier post.

The "reports" (as good as rumors) say that low hangning electrical wires caught on two cars loaded with dynamite. Those cars were in process of being transferred to another train, which was apparently carrying various petroleum products. Further "reports" say that these were destined to be used in a major irrigation project.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[lawrocket 3]

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This thing sounds to me as much like a tactical nuke as a train de-rail.

Um, just out of curiousity, does anyone know:
a) what sort of "explosives" were on the train
b) of any other train derailment that caused this sort of damage?

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Ciels-
Michele

Dang. Am I the only one that thought this???

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[Michele 1]

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Dang. Am I the only one that thought this???

No...just the first to say it.

I didn't want to open that particular can of worms. But on the other side of the coin, wouldn't radiation detectors in other countries have started to show something, some 36-48 hours later?

I don't remember Chernoble's time frame...but wouldn't it be similar?

I dunno...

Ciels-
MIchele

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While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[TribalTalon 0]

*could care less* just too bad it didnt take out the entire regime of north korea. now that would have been nice. and screw sending them anybody to help. let those fucked up dumbasses fend for themselves.

[billvon 2,396]

>*could care less* just too bad it didnt take out the entire regime of
> north korea. now that would have been nice. and screw sending
> them anybody to help. let those fucked up dumbasses fend for themselves.

And to think other countries accuse us of being aggressive, uncaring and provincial!

[TribalTalon 0]

and?


why should we help people who we will never receive any help or respect from. Besides, they dont want our help anyway so its a moot point.

[billvon 2,396]

>why should we help people who we will never receive any help or respect from.

?? We don't have to. But wishing they were all dead makes us, well, not much better than the terrorists who wish _we_ were all dead.