What's up with Kerry's wife?

[Ron 10]

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What most don't understand is when many politicians first come to Wash. DC, many are hard working ideologs. But over time, there is such a corrupting atmosphere here that many succumb, including many wives. It is particulary true if the women come from money and they now are fed a toxic blend of power and money.

Oh I know all about that.

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Would it surprise most of you to know many of your Senators and Congressmen are having affairs? Would it surprise you to know their wives are too? Many of these political couples are married in name only for the sake of children and their image.

No surprise to me.

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Unless one has been into the Washington political scene, you have no idea what these men and their wives are about. You have no idea how morally corrupt many are. You have no idea about the women they marry.

Yep...

Ready to be shocked? I have been to DC several times. I used to date a girl that had a Grandfather that was big in the DEMOCRATIC party. I have had my fair share of political BS.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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That is exactly what I was trying to get at. She has her own agendas that she will exert more upon him than almost any other unelected person could.

You started this thread with some very loose, non-factual information that you couldn't even remember the details of, and now everyone is bashing John Kerry's wife without actually saying what she has done wrong. I've done some searching myself and have not come up with anything, so can you please provide some REAL information?

From what I have seen so far, her agendas seem to be along the same lines as her husband's, so I am guessing the only people who have a problem with that are the people who don't like John Kerry.

If your point is that people need to consider the candidate's spouse when voting, I think most people do that to some extent anyway. And if Gravitymaster's statement is true about how corrupt people become in Washington (and I wouldn't be surprised if it IS true), then I guess we better take a good look at Laura Bush too since she has now been there for almost four years. But the fact that she keeps her opinions to herself more than Kerry's wife does makes it a little bit harder to know what her agenda is. Personally I'd rather see a First Lady who is not afraid to speak her mind (like Eleanor Roosevelt) than someone who plays the blindly-adoring wife role for her oh-so-powerful husband. But either way, I would vote for the candidate who I feel would make the best President (all things considered).

Anyhow (sorry for rambling on), my point is that if you're going to start throwing out accusations at someone, please provide actual facts or at least a reference to the source where you got this information.

(Edited for spelling.)

[cvfd1399 0]

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I thought it was a bunch of spin by 2 talking morning show heads, but I saw part of it in the paper on the news stand, and when I was getting my oil changed, the owner of the place had part of the article printed on paper off of AOL main site

I found 3 sources in the same day. I am on dial up at work. Let me get home and I will hook you up.

My point was to not bash him or her. I started this thread asking if anyone had heard or read the same thing I did. When a couple of people started saying they heard the same we started commenting on that. I asked for some sources, but non turned up. I will look tonight.

[flyinghonu 0]

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Let me just say this: I have lived in the Wash. D.C. area most of my life.

Me too.

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I have been at many political parties.

Me too.

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I was at GHW Bushs' Inauguration. My seats were in front of all Senators and Congressmen.

Well, not Bush's but Clinton's. No, my seat was not up front. I watched from the office and chair of a CA Congressman and very close family friend.

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and have met quit a few politicians in person and have been in their homes

Me too.

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I can assure you these women who marry these politicians are nothing like you have ever seen. They are from my perspective, power hungy sycophants. You have no idea how much different they are when in front of the camera as opposed to off camera.

Sounds like you're hanging around some sketchy politicians. You're comments regarding "politicians" and their wives are just basic generalzations that don't hold true for the entire group...at least not in my experience.

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If you haven't lived in the Washington DC area, you have no idea what politicians are really like.

Doesn't sound like its helped you much.


The idea that because the first lady happened to marry a man that would one day be President makes her a bed hopping, power hungry, whore confirms my very sad realization that this country will continue to be threatened by any women in power, regardless of how they obtained it period.

If this were the reverse and women were the Presidents and their husband were "the first gentleman", if you will ; I seriously doubt their would be conversation about how these men are basically prostitutes trying to gain power through marriage. Sad but true.

"Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix

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I found 3 sources in the same day.

These were your sources???

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I was listening on the radio on the way to work the other day and caught a portion of a talk show commenting on how rich kerry's wife was b/c of her father hines and how she made kerry sign a pre-nump. It went on to say that she was the leading supporter of anti- war protest group, her attorney helped out omar shake somebody, I think he is one of osamma, or sadam's top guys. It also stated that she offered to pay for legal representation for sadam when he goes on trial. I also overheard a part about how she supports the most violent gay rights groups, but I forget the name. I thought it was a bunch of spin by 2 talking morning show heads, but I saw part of it in the paper on the news stand, and when I was getting my oil changed, the owner of the place had part of the article printed on paper off of AOL main site. Did anyone hear this too? Please correct anything that I wrote was wrong, like I said I caught bits and pieces throughout the day.

I'm just saying it would have been better to find the facts and the actual sources before making a bunch of public accusations. I would be a lot more likely to take you seriously if you could point me to a credible source for this information.

I did find at least one link to a news story that made similar accusations to what you stated above, but it was from a highly-biased, not-so-credible (in my opinion) source, so I'm not going to post a link to that. (I'm sure everyone can do a search and find it on their own if they're interested.)

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Like I said this thread was STARTED to find SOURCES. I just stated what I overheard throughout the day to get people some info for the search. How would it go if the post started as "I heard something about kerrys wife what was it?" The post just evolved into what it is now, which is ok. I agree tho we need the cold hard truth.

To the above comments. I am not scared of women in power or how they got there to an extent. My only worry is what are they going to do once they get there. That goes for anyone male or female. It just so happens that she is the person in the spotlight right now.

[billvon 2,879]

>Like I said this thread was STARTED to find SOURCES.

How would you react if a thread entitled "Are Bush's daughters whores?" was started, with people asking what kind of father lets his girls grow up to be drug-using sluts? Would you consider it a simple request for information, or would you think they had an agenda?

George Bush doesn't piss me off. I've never met him; for all I know he's a good guy to hang out with. A lot of the things he's done have pissed me off, but that's not the same as disliking the guy. But some of his supporters I see in the press, on the blogs and other places on the net seem to be, simply, despicable. People who smear a vet's record and question why he would get medals. People who would call his wife a prostitute in all but name because she married a senator. It reflects poorly on Bush that he rallies such people to his side. If I were a staunch republican it would make me want to distance myself from such a group of people.

[PhillyKev 0]

But Clinton did it!

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If I did start a thread like that I would have a reason as to why I ask that and what made me think of it.

The same things that happened with this one. I asked what was with kerry's wife stated why I ask, that reason was b/c I wanted to know If the things said were true. I also stated what made me think of it, that reason was b/c I heard about it from 3 media sources in one day. Honestly I had never known anything about her until then so I was just checking her out and see if anyone else heard the same.

Would a better title have been "sources in the media report..... can you verify that information"?

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".......But some of his supporters I see in the press, on the blogs and other places on the net seem to be, simply, despicable. People who smear a vet's record..........."

Sort of like the supporters that attack a man's son about his time in the national gaurd? The one's who smear a vet's record.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but how do we reconcile the attacks on Bush's record while being upset when Kerry's record is called into question?

"If I were a staunch republican it would make me want to distance myself from such a group of people."

In the same token wouldn't we expect the same amount of distance to be placed between the Bush attackers?

Just seems there is a double standard here.

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Sort of like the supporters that attack a man's son about his time in the national gaurd?

When it's the father's actions who got him the special privelage, that's relevant. Kerry didn't make his wife rich or have any influence over her late marriage.

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You got proof bush#2 would have never made it this far without his father?

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Kerry didn't make his wife rich or have any influence over her late marriage

She did not make herself rich either. It was her choice to marry him.

[Mirage63 0]

Huh?

You mean, if the question is about what your father may or may not have done it's okay to attack some ones's service record but if the question is about someone actions while serving it isn't?

My post was off thread, but I was posting about the double standard's not about Kerry's wife.

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I asked for some sources, but non turned up. I will look tonight.

Ok, here ya go... Go to World Net Daily and do a search for "Teresa Heinz Kerry"... They'll give you all the dirt you're looking for. I have no idea of the reliability of this source, but I'm sure you can read some of their other articles and decide for yourself. They definitely seem to have their own agenda (and definitely seem to be anti-Kerry), but that's ok... There is no way to be sure who is telling the truth, so I believe in getting information from as many sources as possible.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/search.asp

[EDYDO 0]

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>the leftist loudmouth 9/11 victims group . . .

Bashing 9/11 victims? Low even for you. What's next? Vets? Firefighters?

Bill, I know you are a moderator for the group and I respect your views, but that "Low even for you." looks to me like a personal attack and not an attack on his position. Are the rules different here?

Ed