What's up with Kerry's wife?

[cvfd1399 0]

Well I did gradgiated 12th grade, but my attention to details after having been up for over 30 hours has left the building. The general who give a sh!t about proper spelling and grammar you know what I am trying to say attitude has kicked in, but I still love you guys.

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[TomAiello 26]

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...we can tell that from your spelling and punctuation.

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[kallend 1,923]

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...we can tell that from your spelling and punctuation.

Why not play the ball, instead of the player?

Did you miss this?

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...we can tell that from your spelling and punctuation.

Why not play the ball, instead of the player?

because those are the only types of plays kallend can make

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Unfortunately there is no such thing. If there was, I'd be one. The Democrat and Republican parties are equally liberal (i.e. they both want lots of government involvement), they just focus in different directions.

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[TomAiello 26]

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Did you miss this?

Adding a smiley doesn't always make something nice. I frequently see people putting smiley's after full on personal attacks.

What I was really commenting on is a rather silly tendency amongst some in this forum to dissect the grammar of opposing arguments, rather than their position.

The fact someone can't write/spell/articulate as well as you does not mean their views ought to be dismissed.

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You don't think it makes him look like a bungler? Well, truth be told, there are so many other things that do such a good job of doing so that yes, perhaps it's not that big of a deal. But funny? Absolutely.

TheAnvil bankrupt of ways to make fun of leftists? Kallend, have you been taking drugs?

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[kallend 1,923]

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Did you miss this?

Adding a smiley doesn't always make something nice. I frequently see people putting smiley's after full on personal attacks.

What I was really commenting on is a rather silly tendency amongst some in this forum to dissect the grammar of opposing arguments, rather than their position.

The fact someone can't write/spell/articulate as well as you does not mean their views ought to be dismissed.

I didn't comment on his views or his argument. I commented on his description of himself.

I don't get all upset that people comment on college professors as arch-liberals.

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You say that his wife is nothing to talk about, would you have said the same about hilary? When Bill was first elected did you even think that one day hilary was going to be elected a senator? You know if he is elected she will try as hard as she can to get more power. With that in mind I think in this day and age, we need to take a look at presidential canidates wives as well. You don't just elect the president, you get the package deal.

You forgot about Nancy Regan who had her husband meeting w/ a freakin' psychic to determine US domestic and foreign policy. I suppose you are correct, you do get the whole package deal. But I rather have a strong women, not afraid to say and do what she feels is right over someone like Laura Bush, whom self-admittedly disagrees w/ several of her husband's policies but just sits back and plays the "good little wife" role. Better get used to women in power...or your going to be one miserable man.

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Better get used to women in power...or your going to be one miserable man.

We should respect a woman who gains power through marriage to a man? Isn't that counter to what the whole womans movement is about? Doesn't a woman who gains power through he own intellegence and initiative deserve more respect than one who bed hops her way to the top?

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>Doesn't a woman who gains power through he own intellegence and
> initiative deserve more respect than one who bed hops her way to
> the top?

Imagine, if you will, a future where you have some minor position of power, say head of a school board. Imagine further that you listen to a great many people, including your wife, concerning their opinions on school board issues. Then imagine what you would say if one of your constituents claimed your wife "bed hopped her way to the top." Might you agree with his characterization?

[TomAiello 26]

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...head of a school board...

Wife of a school board chairman is just a tad different than wife of two successive United States Senators. Perhaps she found "Advise and Consent" extremely erotic?

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[billvon 2,879]

>Wife of a school board chairman is just a tad different than wife of
> two successive United States Senators.

So senators should choose their wives to be docile and submissive? What happens if an ordinary guy gets elected to the senate and has an opinionated wife? Mandatory divorce?

I find it interesting that we've moved from bashing Kerry's service record to bashing his wife. Does he have any kids? A dog?

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>Doesn't a woman who gains power through he own intellegence and
> initiative deserve more respect than one who bed hops her way to
> the top?

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Imagine, if you will, a future where you have some minor position of power, say head of a school board. Imagine further that you listen to a great many people, including your wife, concerning their opinions on school board issues. Then imagine what you would say if one of your constituents claimed your wife "bed hopped her way to the top." Might you agree with his characterization?

My answer and subsequent question were generic but if you want to be specific, I would say T.H.Kerry is obviously a woman who seeks out powerful men. I would also say she wouldn't give Billvon or Gravitymaster a second look. In that, she seeks power through men that she is unable or incapable of obtaining on her own merit.
If she applied her tactics for money, we would call her a prostitute. Since she does it for power we don't.

I would like to know more about her. I'm not going to be satisfied with the current duck and weave tactic, particularly if she's politically active.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

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>Wife of a school board chairman is just a tad different than wife of
> two successive United States Senators.

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So senators should choose their wives to be docile and submissive? What happens if an ordinary guy gets elected to the senate and has an opinionated wife? Mandatory divorce?

I find it interesting that we've moved from bashing Kerry's service record to bashing his wife. Does he have any kids? A dog?

I'm not bashing her. I just responded to a post that said "get ready for women in power". I'm OK with women who have attained power through their own initiative. I find it hard to have the same degree of respect for a woman who attained power through marriage.

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So senators should choose their wives to be docile and submissive?

I didn't say that at all. If anything, I implied she was a gold-digger, or perhaps a power-digger.

I do think it's valid to examine the wife of a candidate. Marriage is the most comitting relationship that most of us embark upon. And the president's wife is likely to exert more influence upon him than almost any other unelected person.

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[billvon 2,879]

>I'm not bashing her.

You're just calling her a prostitute, except she doesn't take money. Again, I suspect you would not appreciate your wife/girlfriend being described thus.

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>I'm not bashing her.

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You're just calling her a prostitute, except she doesn't take money.

Then she isn't a prostitute. I said "If she applied her tactic for money"......,which she doesn't.

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Again, I suspect you would not appreciate your wife/girlfriend being described thus.

No I wouldn't. Then again, I wouldn't have to worry about is as she wouldn't be interested in me. She prefers to get power through powerful men and trust funds. I think a woman like Liddy Dole is much more admirable than THK

On a side note. Don't you find it hypocritical for Kerry to be bashing Bush on the environment while he and T Heinz-Kerry (wonder why she still uses the middle name) have 6 huge mansions they heat and air condition while flying around campaigning in a private jet?

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I would say T.H.Kerry is obviously a woman who seeks out powerful men.

Just because she has been married to two powerful men, that makes her obviously a woman who seeks out powerful men??? That doesn't seem like a very fair assumption.

I have been married twice, and both of my husbands have made more money than me. Should I have purposely chosen a second husband that made less money than me just to make sure everyone knows I am not a gold-digger?

From what I have seen of John and Teresa, they seem to have a lot in common and they even look like they're still in love with each other.

Are there any facts that can validate the accusation that she only married him for more power?

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I would say T.H.Kerry is obviously a woman who seeks out powerful men.

Just because she has been married to two powerful men, that makes her obviously a woman who seeks out powerful men??? That doesn't seem like a very fair assumption.

I have been married twice, and both of my husbands have made more money than me. Should I have purposely chosen a second husband that made less money than me just to make sure everyone knows I am not a gold-digger?

From what I have seen of John and Teresa, they seem to have a lot in common and they even look like they're still in love with each other.

Are there any facts that can validate the accusation that she only married him for more power?

Let me just say this: I have lived in the Wash. D.C. area most of my life. I have been at many political parties. I was at GHW Bushs' Inauguration. My seats were in front of all Senators and Congressmen. The best. I have also attended Embassy Parties and have met quit a few politicians in person and have been in their homes
I can assure you these women who marry these politicians are nothing like you have ever seen. They are from my perspective, power hungy sycophants. You have no idea how much different they are when in front of the camera as opposed to off camera.

Didn't you just hear about the politicians wife who was arrested yesterday for assaulting another woman at a DC garden center? Don't tell me about cute cuddly couples. Do you actually believe movie actors are the same in real life as they are on screen? If you haven't lived in the Washington DC area, you have no idea what politicians are really like.

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Didn't you just hear about the politicians wife who was arrested yesterday for assaulting another woman at a DC garden center?

Yes, I did hear about that. What does that have to do with John Kerry's wife?

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Do you actually believe movie actors are the same in real life as they are on screen?

No, they are actors, therefore I believe they are acting. I also realize that politicians put on a lot of "fluff" when they are in front of the media, but that goes for all of them, including George W. and Laura Bush. I grew up in Midland, TX, and went to the same church as George W. while his dad was Vice President. I didn't know him personally, but I do have an idea of what he is like as a "real" person.

I have no doubt that the President's wife (whichever candidate is elected) will have some influence on her husband and some power of her own, and I do take that into account when voting, but it is not my main consideration.

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You're just calling her a prostitute, except she doesn't take money. Again, I suspect you would not appreciate your wife/girlfriend being described thus.

Just because you don't like it does not make it not true.

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>Wife of a school board chairman is just a tad different than wife of
> two successive United States Senators.

So senators should choose their wives to be docile and submissive? What happens if an ordinary guy gets elected to the senate and has an opinionated wife? Mandatory divorce?

I find it interesting that we've moved from bashing Kerry's service record to bashing his wife. Does he have any kids? A dog?

I sure hope his dog isn't opinionated! Last thing we need is a dog behind the scenes, manipulating POTUS.

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You're just calling her a prostitute, except she doesn't take money. Again, I suspect you would not appreciate your wife/girlfriend being described thus.

Just because you don't like it does not make it not true.

And just because it would upset me doesn't mean John Kerry would be upset. Sure if it was done publicly he'd be offended publicly. What most don't understand is when many politicians first come to Wash. DC, many are hard working ideologs. But over time, there is such a corrupting atmosphere here that many succumb, including many wives. It is particulary true if the women come from money and they now are fed a toxic blend of power and money.

Would it surprise most of you to know many of your Senators and Congressmen are having affairs? Would it surprise you to know their wives are too? Many of these political couples are married in name only for the sake of children and their image. Thats because this is what the voters want them to be.

Unless one has been into the Washington political scene, you have no idea what these men and their wives are about. You have no idea how morally corrupt many are. You have no idea about the women they marry. The ones who are their second marriages to politicians are the worst. Many are no longer capable of normal relationships with normal men. I don't know Theresa Heinz-Kerry so I'm not making a judgement based on any personal knowledge but I think I know the mentality she has. Probably very close to a Pamela Harrimann who ran the DC political-social scene for many many years. Thats the who's who of this area. If you were invited to a P. Harrimann party, you were considered "somebody" There has been a void since her death that many women, including Hillary Clinton, have tried to fill.

Until you've lived in this area for a very long time, you have very little understanding about the way the Washington Power Structure is all about. You know very little about the personalities that evolve from it. You have no idea what people will do for power.

[cvfd1399 0]

That is exactly what I was trying to get at. She has her own agendas that she will exert more upon him than almost any other unelected person could. So it should be valid to look at wives and their hidden agendas. I am not saying focus on her, but everyone should just make sure they look at it as a whole. You can spray perfume on it but it's still a turd!
Btw turd was not in the dictionary