tdog 0 #1 February 12, 2015 Unfortunately making this a clicky will not work, alibaba redirects you if you come in from a redirect. So manually go to: http://www.alibaba.com Type in Vector V3 in the search. 150-200 for a vector. Found a mirage too. Can't wait until students show up with these! Screenshot attached in case you can't find it. Importer: Unique Mobiles Limited, UK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billbooth 10 #2 February 12, 2015 Wow! I'll take 100! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #3 February 12, 2015 billboothWow! I'll take 100! Best DZ.com post of the day, possibly the millennium. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tred 0 #4 February 12, 2015 it says 1000-2000 now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #5 February 12, 2015 tredit says 1000-2000 now The $150 option is still there too. But, I found they have even a better deal on Mirage. Buy 5, get 3 free! See attached! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #6 February 12, 2015 This sort of thing scares the heck out of me. I've worked in the auto trade for years and it's full of counterfeit parts. Aviation even had its trouble when knockoff bolts sheared and the tail blew off an AC killing everyone onboard. I've gotten material traceability sheets with products that were entirely fake. I knew from welding a SS part that it wasn't 304. A friend working for a metallurgical lab proved the alloy wasn't even close. Yet it came with "documentation". How can we protect against a rig that shows up complete with serial numbers that's made with sub-standard webbing, hardware and stitching made in a chinese sweat shop by a 10 year-old? $200 is insane but what of a rig sold for $1200? $2500? Remove all the R&D, support and QA checks that go into a company like UPT and I'm confident you could build a rig of sub-standard material $200. What do you suppose 350sq ft of ripstop tent nylon costs? Imagine how many counterfeit spectre 150's you could sell before it's found out? -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tred 0 #7 February 12, 2015 is it real? seems too good to be true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #8 February 12, 2015 tredis it real? seems too good to be true It may be real. But it won't be real good. It will be a knockoff made by people who have no clue what bill of materials need to be used. FYI, BillBooth, who replied to my 1st post, is the inventor of the real thing. His post indicates he can't build a safe real thing for that amount, in a funny but perfect way. To Hackish - I fully agree... If these do take off in the industry, riggers, manufacturers and others will have to learn how to identify the fakes. Alti-2 sent out a letter last week explaining how to identify fake components knocked off their line (in their case it was a non-functioning unit designed for role play airsoft games, so anyone in the plane on the way up would have noticed the needle was not working). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 60 #9 February 12, 2015 More deals for like $150 each: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Vector-V3-Skydiving-Rig-Gear-Package_50007660494.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Javelin-Odyssey-Skydiving-Rig-Gear-Package_50007728664.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/BUY-2-GET-1-FREE-New_50006935322.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Vampire-4_138345255.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Skydiving-Suit_123749817.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #10 February 12, 2015 billbooth Wow! I'll take 100! now there's a way to bring down the waiting time that so many people complain about! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 26 #11 February 12, 2015 skydiverek More deals for like $150 each: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Vector-V3-Skydiving-Rig-Gear-Package_50007660494.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Javelin-Odyssey-Skydiving-Rig-Gear-Package_50007728664.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/BUY-2-GET-1-FREE-New_50006935322.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Vampire-4_138345255.html http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Skydiving-Suit_123749817.html Weird. The direct link doesn't work, but, if you copy and past the link content into the url bar, it works...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter.draper 0 #12 February 12, 2015 I wonder if they come with Risers, Freebag, D-Bag, Pilot Chutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #13 February 12, 2015 I wonder if there's a discount for bulk purchases. Some deals to be had, for sure. Maybe they can also make us some $3K twin otters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quagmirian 40 #14 February 13, 2015 This is Gold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuai43 7 #15 February 13, 2015 Just got mine in.. looks pretty sweet!Every fight is a food fight if you're a cannibal Goodness is something to be chosen. When a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man. - Anthony Burgess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #16 February 13, 2015 Oh shit, quick ejectors! That guy could lose all his books if he's not careful! __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #17 February 13, 2015 Wow! Some interesting engineering they've done there by getting rid of the leg straps altogether. Haha. My new Mirage, Vampire, a spare Vector 3 and Verso are in the mail...Can't wait! Anyone have a link for a reserve, Main and an AAD? K, Thanks!"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #18 February 13, 2015 I'm not that rich but it's tempting to actually order one and see what they send. Order it, paypal it then do a chargeback when it arrives by saying it is not what they advertised :} -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,229 #19 February 14, 2015 Given the issue facing Alti-2 recently and now this... Gear Manufacturers may want to rally and register these types of counterfeits with http://www.stopfakes.gov/ if for no other reason than to protect themselves. Just a thought. [Alibaba] "The letter will raise eyebrows as 2014 was widely viewed as a blockbuster year for the firm, with its $25 billion listing on the New York Stock Exchange in September propelling Ma to the top of China's rich list overnight. The firm's fortunes have turned somewhat in last few weeks, however. A Chinese government agency has accused the firm of allowing "illegal operations" to flourish on its websites, including the sale of counterfeit or fake merchandise -- which has in turn raised questions by US stock market regulators." http://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/why-alibaba-staff-wont-be-getting-cash-envelopes-this-year-despite-bumper-ipo-660723 "STOPfakes.gov was launched to serve as a one-stop shop for U.S. government tools and resources on intellectual property rights (IPR). The federal agencies behind STOPfakes.gov have developed a number of resources to educate and assist businesses, particularly small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs), as well as consumers, government officials, and the general public." http://www.stopfakes.gov/aboutNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter.draper 0 #20 February 18, 2015 I was just showing these links to a local business journalist that has reported on Ali Baba on his radio segment and we realized that they are using images of the real rigs - at least one lifted from Mike Gruwell's website WITH his chutingstar logo........ so who knows what you'd actually get if you ordered one...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #21 February 18, 2015 Not everytihing on alibaba/aliexpress are scams or cheap copies. But there are lots of scammers so be aware if you plan to order anything. I have orderd twice from different manufacturers on alibaba and once on aliexpress. Both orders on alibaba was as expected but the guy at aliexpress probably tried to scam me, luckily I used a escrow service. The "rules" are the same on alibaba as on all other equal sites (amazon, ebay etc.), deal that are too good to be true generally are. No manufacturer can produce everything, so if they claim to make cloths, carparts, mobile phones, car tires, etc. then they will scam you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,229 #22 February 18, 2015 "The Death of Caveat Emptor" ~Gerrit De Geest Washington University School of LawNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites