MakeItHappen 15 #26 June 21, 2007 QuoteGoldilocks? Did I spell it wrong? Not too fast Not too slow but just right .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #27 June 22, 2007 QuoteGoldilocks? What he said...... "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #28 June 22, 2007 Ok...so you don't want to check your canopy before 2500 ft.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #29 June 22, 2007 well I AM checking it...is it square, any holes, right turn, left turn, lines, slider..........2500ft release brakes flare. hmmm seems to me a full canopy check has been done. "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
V111pilot 1 #30 June 27, 2007 I agree. Everything works best when everyone just fly's their canopy and avoids spiraling down. Unfortunately there's always "that guy" that wants to land first and spirals to do so. My advice to "that guy" is if you want to land first, pull lower! (Joke). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,675 #31 June 27, 2007 >Unfortunately there's always "that guy" that wants to land first and spirals >to do so. Why is that bad? If everyone pulls at the same altitude, and the high wing loadings spiral, and the low wing loadings float a bit, you get more separation come landing time. The problem only arises when people spiral _through_ other people's airspace, or in the pattern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #32 June 27, 2007 QuoteWhy is that bad? Because, more often than not "that guy" isn't the highest loaded, or even close. Not directed at Bill: If you're having to spiral to stay below the other canopies - you're that guy. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #33 June 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhy is that bad? Because, more often than not "that guy" isn't the highest loaded, or even close. Not directed at Bill: If you're having to spiral to stay below the other canopies - you're that guy. I may be viewed as "that guy". I don't fly the fastest canopy, but not the slowest either. I love to spiral, my favorite toy as a child was the "Sit N Spin". When I do spiral my ass off, I am very certain to clear my airspace and to continually scan the area of the sky I am headed into for traffic. But there is another side to my madness: The amount of "sport" jumps I make is maybe 5 to 10 out of every 100. My preferred discipline in skydiving is jumping with students. The methods utilized at the DZ I work at is not controlled at the instructor level, but from the management (DZO) level - the way we have are radio communication set up is the transmitter to communicate to students is on the ground. The first instructor to the ground will retrieve the transmitter to take on communication to the students who are all on the same frequency. Once my student deploys (usually at 5,500) I hum along and deploy usually at 2,500' or so. Then I jam on down to the ground ASAP to get on the horn (transmitter). This is the way the powers that be decided to have the system operate, and for 8 years it has been run that way without incident, so it seems to be working. So I have a valid reason to be "that guy" and get to fly the way I love to, spiraling my ass off. Over the years I have had no significant incidents of having near collision as a result of my taste for radical spiral maneuvering. Its fun, and if done responsibly, so what? Like Bill said, keep it out of others airspace and patterns... -Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_K 0 #34 July 5, 2007 QuoteQuotewatching for other canopies, stowing my slider, loosening my chest strap enjoying the view =) Basically letting all he fast dudes have the air to themselves. Your control check should come before all of that as well as knowing your exact altitude. If you fail a control check 1,000 feet lower, then everything else did not matter. You could run into a HUGE spinning problem when you unstow brakes. What if you got a tiny loop of brake line caught in your glove? Just think about it and stay safe man! If your loosening your chest strap before you unstow your brakes, and if for some reason you have to chop after you unstow... what's wrong with that picture. That seems to me like it could suck pretty bad if that chest strap is to loose. Probably not as bad as a mis routed chest strap but still. SSS, then do the rest, hang in breaks, head out of the way, what ever, but make sure you can fly what you have back first. Stay safe... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
