md202089 0 #1 August 24, 2012 I am looking to buy a new rig (my first ), but was wondering if there was a difference between the two since the smart is $200 cheaper. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chemfx 0 #2 August 24, 2012 I am looking to buy a new rig (my first ),*** PD and a case of beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #3 August 24, 2012 Those reserves are close in terms of quality (top shelf) - of workmanship - and flying characteristics. The difference in price is reflection of Honduran labour costs versus South African labour costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #4 August 24, 2012 Are the Smart slider grommets still plastic as opposed to the PD metal slider grommets?Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottd818 0 #5 August 24, 2012 i just bought a smart and they were metal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #6 August 24, 2012 QuoteAre the Smart slider grommets still plastic as opposed to the PD metal slider grommets? I have a smart that is one of earlier production runs and it doesn't have plastic grommets. When was this being done?"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottd818 0 #7 August 24, 2012 Has anyone flown both of these reserves that can compare how they fly and land? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #8 August 24, 2012 QuoteAre the Smart slider grommets still plastic as opposed to the PD metal slider grommets? ....................................................................... I have never seen a slider with plastic grommets. Brass? Yes! Stainless steel? Yes! Aluminum? Yes! But never plastic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #9 August 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteAre the Smart slider grommets still plastic as opposed to the PD metal slider grommets? ....................................................................... I have never seen a slider with plastic grommets. Brass? Yes! Stainless steel? Yes! Aluminum? Yes! But never plastic I was thinking the same thing.. Then I had a moment of semi-brilliance... Maybe he was thinking the slider stops? I seem to recall that Aerodyne was using plastic stops as opposed to PD (not sure what they are using)... But, I've been wrong before...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #10 August 24, 2012 I thought they all used out of circulation casino chips. Ha Ha "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #11 August 24, 2012 QuoteHas anyone flown both of these reserves that can compare how they fly and land? I found my smart 120 easier to land than the PD126R I have number of jumps on (as a main). The smart seemed to open slower (was a low-speed malfunction). I liked both reserves, they're both better than other brands I've jumped. You cannot go wrong with either one IMO. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 54 #12 August 24, 2012 QuoteAre the Smart slider grommets still plastic as opposed to the PD metal slider grommets? Slider STOPS, not grommets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #13 August 25, 2012 Quote Quote Are the Smart slider grommets still plastic as opposed to the PD metal slider grommets? Slider STOPS, not grommets. HEY!!! I thought STOPS really loud, that's just not what my fingers typed!! Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #14 August 25, 2012 PDr flaired like typical PD canopy. Smart flaired like typical Aerodyne canopy. That tells you alot. If I had 20lbs of weight and loading it around 1.9 to 2.0 I would prefer PD. At typical reserve wingload between 1.0 to 1.6, I would jump either one o them.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #15 August 26, 2012 The slider grommets are BRASS as on the PR's. The SLIDER STOPS on the stab. are plastic on the SMART & SS on the PR's / OP's The PD OPTIMUM Reserve have SS slider grommets. I hope that claer it up. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #16 August 26, 2012 Please consider the limits: SMART R: Deployments: 10 Repacks: 20 Which ever is first the Smart should go back to the mfg. for tests & recertification. No Box marking system on the canopy PR / OP: Deployments: 25 Repacks: 40 Which ever is first the PR/OP must go back to PD for tests & recertification. Marking Box system on the canopy - easy track of history of Repacks / Deployments if were marked. Both will save you when needed. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctrph8 0 #17 August 26, 2012 Quote PDr flaired like typical PD canopy. Smart flaired like typical Aerodyne canopy. That tells you alot. I've had great landings out of both manufacturers but have never landed one of their reserves. What did you mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 93 #18 August 26, 2012 Quote Please consider the limits: SMART R: Deployments: 10 Repacks: 20 Which ever is first the Smart should go back to the mfg. for tests & recertification. No Box marking system on the canopy PR / OP: Deployments: 25 Repacks: 40 Which ever is first the PR/OP must go back to PD for tests & recertification. Marking Box system on the canopy - easy track of history of Repacks / Deployments if were marked. Both will save you when needed. Cheers The smart manual only says that porosity should be checked after 10 deployments/20 repacks, but it doesn't say how to check the porosity or that it must be done by the mfg (page 20 of their manual). Perhaps there is something else in the manual I overlooked.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksimsf 0 #19 August 26, 2012 Quote Please consider the limits: SMART R: Deployments: 10 Repacks: 20 Which ever is first the Smart should go back to the mfg. for tests & recertification. No Box marking system on the canopy PR / OP: Deployments: 25 Repacks: 40 Which ever is first the PR/OP must go back to PD for tests & recertification. Marking Box system on the canopy - easy track of history of Repacks / Deployments if were marked. Both will save you when needed. Cheers That is some very nice info. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #20 August 27, 2012 You are correct - they never said how to perform the tests & who will perform it - this is a very good reason to sent it back to Aerodyne for the tests - at least it will come back certified by the MFG. & the owner knows the MFG. recertified his reserve after an APPROVED method of testing with the right tools. PD reserve MUST be sent back to PD for that process. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites