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QuoteWhen I say "Custom" leftie deployment is all I was looking for, and emergency procedures are no problem. However, I've seen recommendations that a used rig may have a much less comfortable fit than one that's custom built specifically for me. If there would be a very noticeable difference, I'll always take quality over price.
Keeping mind that a new container is going to be 2 to 3 times the price of a used one, and you'll lose more money on the deal if you sell it without putting 500-700 jumps on it within about 4-5 years, used is generally the way to go for a first rig (or two).
Rigs are not 'custom' fit to each jumper. manufacturers have a selection of sizes, and they pick the one that closely matches your size. There are one or two areas where that can make some very small adjustments, but rigs are similar to winter jackets. If a rig was built for someone who is your size +/- an inch or two in height and your weight +/- 10 or 15 lbs, there's a good chance that it will fit you just fine, and you'll never notice the difference.
You can alter the fit of a rig with the reserve pack job. Some riggers will pack a rig that makes it tighter around the yoke, and some will pack it looser around the yoke. I'm not suggesting that it's a way to 'fit' a rig, but that it makes slight differences in harness size moot, and not worth spedning $1500 more to get a new container.
Long underwear and a bulky sweatshirt under your jumpsuit will alter the fit of a rig, but nobody has a summer rig and winter rig. It's not an exact science.
Go to the DZ, look for jumpers about your size, and ask to try on their rigs. You'll see that they all fit differently, but they all fit.
JohnRich 4
Get a ripcord deployment and then you don't have to reach behind you at all, except when you want to scratch your ass.
twspahn 0
dave...thanks for the great advice!
Velocity Sports Equipment, who makes the Infinity container can do it no problem at no extra charge! www.velocityrigs.com. Their facebook is www.facebook.com/infinityrigs
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QuoteGet a ripcord deployment and then you don't have to reach behind you at all, except when you want to scratch your ass.
Bit of a thread drift I know...but I sometimes wonder if you are years ahead John instead of behind the times.
Sure seems to be a lot more right shoulder surgeries in the sport since we (most of us) have to reach backwards to pull.
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Every manufacturer will make a left-handed BOC at no extra charge as far as I know.
JohnRich 4
QuoteQuoteGet a ripcord deployment and then you don't have to reach behind you at all, except when you want to scratch your ass.
Bit of a thread drift I know...but I sometimes wonder if you are years ahead John instead of behind the times.
It's been a long evolution getting to BOC deployments, from ripcords, to belly bands, to leg straps and finally bottom of container. And each one of those progressive changes had good reasons for them to eliminate a problem. But now that we're there, I can see some newcomer looking at where we are now and wondering: "What the hell are these guys thinking? They've got a deployment handle that they can't see, can just barely reach, and is prone to make new people roll over unstable!"
I'll stay with my ripcord, thank you, and don't mind being called an old fuddy duddy for it.
billvon 2,381
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>Sure seems to be a lot more right shoulder surgeries in the sport since
>we (most of us) have to reach backwards to pull.
Hello bellybands!
I've often wondered if the old Sorcerer RPC location might not work well for sport rigs. Put the PC in a pouch on your right shoulder. Route the bridle along the riser channels. To deploy just reach up to your shoulder and throw it out to the side.
>we (most of us) have to reach backwards to pull.
Hello bellybands!
I've often wondered if the old Sorcerer RPC location might not work well for sport rigs. Put the PC in a pouch on your right shoulder. Route the bridle along the riser channels. To deploy just reach up to your shoulder and throw it out to the side.
Quote>Sure seems to be a lot more right shoulder surgeries in the sport since
>we (most of us) have to reach backwards to pull.
Hello bellybands!
I've often wondered if the old Sorcerer RPC location might not work well for sport rigs. Put the PC in a pouch on your right shoulder. Route the bridle along the riser channels. To deploy just reach up to your shoulder and throw it out to the side.
Not familiar with that one, I remember seeing a system years ago in which the PC was packed on the backside of the container, fitting into the lower small of the back area above the butt... with a deployment twinkie attached to the lower lat..is that the same thing?
And hey...what was wrong with ROL? Too much exposed going to the pin?? Surely we could have figured out a better cover instead of moving the whole thing outta sight!
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skydiverek 54
Quotewhat was wrong with ROL? Too much exposed going to the pin?? Surely we could have figured out a better cover instead of moving the whole thing outta sight!
People twisted in 360 degrees and had PC in tows.
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QuoteQuotewhat was wrong with ROL? Too much exposed going to the pin?? Surely we could have figured out a better cover instead of moving the whole thing outta sight!
People twisted in 360 degrees and had PC in tows.
That may have been the case with belly-bands, but on the rigs I've owned with an ROL ya would really have to be a dolt to twist up the leg-strap and see or feel it, not to mention with so many step-in harnesses these days I doubt it would be a significant problem at all.
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QuoteNew to the sport and have very limited range of motion in my right shoulder due to injury. Which manufacturers will constuct a custom container for left-handed deployment?...Is there a specific manufacturer you would recommend for this?
Some rigs have an *instructor side* deployment on the left side. Should be easy to make a conversion.
Ask a master rigger to be 100%.
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QuoteSome rigs have an *instructor side* deployment on the left side. Should be easy to make a conversion.
Those aren't exactly the same, sewing the pouch on the other way is much easier, and you don't have to hold on to the handle or re-route it after activation.
Also, I imagine it would be a pain in the ass to peel the velcro and pull the cut away cable, then knock the PC out of the burble/off your back.
QuoteAsk a master rigger to be 100%.
Oh, I'm only a senior rigger.
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riggerrob 558
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I have stopped a couple of those dolts as they were getting dressed.
Honest miss! I was not staring at your @$$!
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"Quote... with an ROL ya would really have to be a dolt to twist up the leg-strap and not see or feel it, ...
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I have stopped a couple of those dolts as they were getting dressed.
Honest miss! I was not staring at your @$$!
Hah!
Hah!
riggerrob 558
Several manufacturers will cheerfully sew a left-handed BOC.
The first time I ever saw a left-handed BOC was when I worked at Rigging Innovations. We sewed together a custom Talon for an old-time skydiver whose right shoulder got shot up during Viet Nam War.
Last month, I converted a BASE rig to left-handed BOC by gently un-picking the (nearly-new) original BOC and re-sewing it on so that the mouth faced left.
The first time I ever saw a left-handed BOC was when I worked at Rigging Innovations. We sewed together a custom Talon for an old-time skydiver whose right shoulder got shot up during Viet Nam War.
Last month, I converted a BASE rig to left-handed BOC by gently un-picking the (nearly-new) original BOC and re-sewing it on so that the mouth faced left.
JerryBaumchen 1,046
Hi Jim,
Quoteya would really have to be a dolt to twist up the leg-strap and see or feel it,
Actually, it's quite easy: Imagine where the horizontal back strap comes into the MLW, then just flip the leg strap over the horizontal between the container & the MLW; seen it way too many times.
JerryBaumchen
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