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Why the 45 degree method does not work (long)

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stayhigh

It doesn't work because no one brings a protractor.

If you bring a protractor and start measuring the angles, by the time you figure it out you'll have plenty of separation.



It does't work even IF you have a protractor AND can read it very quickly. The reason it doesn't work is that it is fundamentally flawed.
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stayhigh

It doesn't work because no one brings a protractor.

If you bring a protractor and start measuring the angles, by the time you figure it out you'll have plenty of separation.




that's clever and funny - I wonder if anyone very will actually take your comment seriously and respond accordingly......they know who they are. or......maybe they don't.......:ph34r:

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analog protractors are so old school anyway, only old farts use them, I have a digital laser one. Works like a charm, gives me audible alarms when it measures 45deg, and logs all my pre-jump separations.
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Di0

analog protractors are so old school anyway, only old farts use them, I have a digital laser one. Works like a charm, gives me audible alarms when it measures 45deg, and logs all my pre-jump separations.



Yeah, but you're not typically supposed to always be so separated, from your own group, like that! :P
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Di0

analog protractors are so old school anyway, only old farts use them, I have a digital laser one. Works like a charm, gives me audible alarms when it measures 45deg, and logs all my pre-jump separations.



it would be so cool to see hundreds of GoPro videos of newbies using their new Neptune and L&B protractors. And them sticking their tongues out at the camera while measuring angles. And learning to swoop.

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Scrumpot

***analog protractors are so old school anyway, only old farts use them, I have a digital laser one. Works like a charm, gives me audible alarms when it measures 45deg, and logs all my pre-jump separations.



Yeah, but you're not typically supposed to always be so separated, from your own group, like that! :P

I knooow. That's why I can't wait for L&B Protrackt 2, which is rumored to have a setting for that!

rehmwa


it would be so cool to see hundreds of GoPro videos of newbies using their new Neptune and L&B protractors. And them sticking their tongues out at the camera while measuring angles. And learning to swoop.



I believe that would soon start to cause bar fights on the plane with the T.I.s after them. People would bring iron pipes and monkey wrenches on the plane.
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My dreams they must be fed... You're in flight.

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Let's be honest.
The 45 rule came into being back in the S/L days when someone realized that most skydivers can't count past 6 ("look" thousand) and the really smart ones not past ten (with those jump boots on).
This is the paradox of skydiving. We do something very dangerous, expose ourselves to a totally unnecesary risk, and then spend our time trying to make it safer.

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ufk22

Let's be honest.
The 45 rule came into being back in the S/L days when someone realized that most skydivers can't count past 6 ("look" thousand) and the really smart ones not past ten (with those jump boots on).



It at least gets some people, to maybe even actually look somewhere out the door, I suppose. :S[:/]
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rehmwa

people can watch the jumpers all you like - it gives zero useful info (unless one of them takes out the tail, then I'd recommend exiting quickly.:D)



Not entirely true.

If you and the group before you are both doing belly jumps, but they hose up their exit and just turn into a ball of people for several seconds then you may want to give them a little more time as they won't be in the upper (usually faster) winds as long as your group will be. Also, your video guy should be filming it for entert- I mean educational purposes anyway.

Or if the uppers = the airspeed of the plane you can watch them to see them open before you exit. :P

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(deleted silly post listing reasons to watch the other group. My bad - this is a serious subject and too many people just don't get it still. I started the goofy stuff, but I shouldn't be stuffing tangents in here further.)

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