TerminalGravity 0 #1 December 16, 2011 Hey guys, I am a fairly new jumper and am starting to piece together my first rig. I have decided to go with a new container rather than searching for months for a used one that fits me. I am 6 foot 1 and 220lbs and am just looking for some opinions on comfort of containers. I have jumped a JO (D18 harness) and a G4 (M7, with articulation) liking the Mirage better of those two. Any opinions from some bigger jumpers would be appreciated. Thanks and Blue Skies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3331 128 #2 December 16, 2011 Have you looked at the Racer 2K3 From Parachute Laboratories Inc, in Deland Florida ? Also known as http://jumpshack.com/ The Racer has a track record of performance with the "Reserve Deployment System". That will be important when you cutaway low or your AAD fires at 750 feet.I Jumped with the guys who invented Skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerminalGravity 0 #3 December 16, 2011 I have checked out about every container there is, but have only had the chance to jump the JO and G4. I haven't seen anyone with a 2K3 at my DZ yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #4 December 16, 2011 I'm a big guy. Any container that is custom fit and built will be comfortable. I've had Javelins, Icons, Mirages, and now I've got a Vector on order - none of them had significant differences from the point of view of pure comfort. The most important thing is that the rig is measured by someone who knows how to measure for rigs, and that it's built to fit you. Pick your container by looking at the options that are important to you (eg, Skyhook). If it's custom built, it will be comfortable. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShotterMG 0 #5 December 16, 2011 I have had every container and have found the Vortex has the best fit, best padding, and best price and delivery time of them all. It's very much like a Jav but nearly a thousand bucks cheaper. Check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #6 December 16, 2011 Any opinions from some bigger jumpers would be appreciated. Quote 6'4" & 230 here, the most comfortable rig I've worn is a Racer. No I don't own one now, I have in the past and my next one will be. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiver604 0 #7 December 16, 2011 I'm 6 feet and weigh roughly 215 pounds, I jump a Wings W30, very comfortable "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TerminalGravity 0 #8 December 16, 2011 I have heard a lot of compliments on the Wings container especially for comfort under canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Anvilbrother 0 #9 December 16, 2011 +1 for wings with the upgraded foam backpad and legpads Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ctrph8 0 #10 December 16, 2011 Nope! I am 6'3" and weigh 225 without gear. My wings is by far the most comfortable rig I've ever owned. I suppose spacer foam on any rig will help but I really love my Wings. Their customer service rocks too! I jumped a Racer a few times that came close but nothing like this. QuoteI have heard a lot of compliments on the Wings container especially for comfort under canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dpreguy 14 #11 December 16, 2011 If you are "fairly new" as a jumper, then you should consider ony a rig with a workable-reliable RSL. Start from there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #12 December 16, 2011 Quote If you are "fairly new" as a jumper, then you should consider ony a rig with a workable-reliable RSL. Start from there. 'Check the Steven's Line' ! FIFTY years in the sport and THAT's the best advice ya can give?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rover 10 #13 December 16, 2011 Quote Any container that is custom fit and built will be comfortable. The best advice so far. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,230 #14 December 16, 2011 All custom built rigs will serve you well ( don't forget the Infinity for us big guys). But, also take a strong look at the Wings EXT. In addition, Wings can accommodate a disparate reserve to main ratio. I had a Precision 249-M reserve with an Icarus 169 main.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dpreguy 14 #15 December 17, 2011 Didn't see any reason to be Chatty Kathy, as I agree with the other general advice,"pick a rig that fits" etc. Just my opinion of starting advice. If you 180 my wording, maybe it will be more clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dokeman 0 #16 December 17, 2011 Im 6'5, 220. I own 2 racers. There great! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TerminalGravity 0 #17 December 17, 2011 The general concensus seems to be a custom fit rig, no matter who makes it, will be pretty comfortable. That said, taking the RSL into consideration and speaking to my rigger, I'm really digging the asthetics of the Talon FX. The price is also eye catching at $2050 with SS hardware and hip articulation included Anyone have any experience with Rigging Innovations gear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 98 #18 December 17, 2011 Quote The general concensus seems to be a custom fit rig, no matter who makes it, will be pretty comfortable. That said, taking the RSL into consideration and speaking to my rigger, I'm really digging the asthetics of the Talon FX. The price is also eye catching at $2050 with SS hardware and hip articulation included Anyone have any experience with Rigging Innovations gear? You might want to call them and make sure they can make a container big enough to hold the canopies you will (should) be using (big canopies if you're wise). Look at the bottom of the page: http://www.rigginginnovations.com/products/talon_fx.htmPeople are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TerminalGravity 0 #19 December 17, 2011 I was interested in the Wings EXT, however they say it is not for anyone jumping bigger than a 150 main. I'm rockin a 230 for a while Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TerminalGravity 0 #20 December 17, 2011 After I posted that, I kept reading and looks like the biggest main would be a 210. Since I just downsized to a 230, probably not the container for me. Damn it's nice looking though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiver604 0 #21 December 17, 2011 My Wings W30 holds a 230 Silhouette main and a 253 R reserve. "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,230 #22 December 17, 2011 Is "they" the factory telling you that? I''ve never heard that.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiver604 0 #23 December 17, 2011 from the Wings website. 2. THE WINGS EXT The Longer, Sleeker Wings! The Wing EXT series is specifically designed for taller jumpers (generally 5'10" and up). If you fly small (under 120 square foot) high performance mains but like the security of a larger reserve (i.e.: 79 Velocity and a PD 126) the EXT might be for you. Please note that this container is NOT for people jumping 150 canopies and over. And also note that this container does not have any extra options, it doesn't cost anything more. It's just a different shape. Link to that page http://www.skydivewings.com/index.php?page=our_products "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,230 #24 December 17, 2011 Meh. Call Henri abd tell him what you'd lile and see what he says. All my EXTs had a bigger than 150 albeit not > 210Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PiLFy 0 #25 December 17, 2011 Here, I think the price is off by about $700, but that's what haggling is for: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/detail_page.cgi?ID=119624;d=1 The most comfy rig is the one that lets you still sit down comfortably after paying for it. Big Boy rigs come available in the classifieds, periodically. You're going to be hard on your first container. Why tear up a brand new one? Good Luck. 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skydiver604 0 #7 December 16, 2011 I'm 6 feet and weigh roughly 215 pounds, I jump a Wings W30, very comfortable "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerminalGravity 0 #8 December 16, 2011 I have heard a lot of compliments on the Wings container especially for comfort under canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #9 December 16, 2011 +1 for wings with the upgraded foam backpad and legpads Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctrph8 0 #10 December 16, 2011 Nope! I am 6'3" and weigh 225 without gear. My wings is by far the most comfortable rig I've ever owned. I suppose spacer foam on any rig will help but I really love my Wings. Their customer service rocks too! I jumped a Racer a few times that came close but nothing like this. QuoteI have heard a lot of compliments on the Wings container especially for comfort under canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #11 December 16, 2011 If you are "fairly new" as a jumper, then you should consider ony a rig with a workable-reliable RSL. Start from there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #12 December 16, 2011 Quote If you are "fairly new" as a jumper, then you should consider ony a rig with a workable-reliable RSL. Start from there. 'Check the Steven's Line' ! FIFTY years in the sport and THAT's the best advice ya can give?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 10 #13 December 16, 2011 Quote Any container that is custom fit and built will be comfortable. The best advice so far. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,230 #14 December 16, 2011 All custom built rigs will serve you well ( don't forget the Infinity for us big guys). But, also take a strong look at the Wings EXT. In addition, Wings can accommodate a disparate reserve to main ratio. I had a Precision 249-M reserve with an Icarus 169 main.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #15 December 17, 2011 Didn't see any reason to be Chatty Kathy, as I agree with the other general advice,"pick a rig that fits" etc. Just my opinion of starting advice. If you 180 my wording, maybe it will be more clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dokeman 0 #16 December 17, 2011 Im 6'5, 220. I own 2 racers. There great! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerminalGravity 0 #17 December 17, 2011 The general concensus seems to be a custom fit rig, no matter who makes it, will be pretty comfortable. That said, taking the RSL into consideration and speaking to my rigger, I'm really digging the asthetics of the Talon FX. The price is also eye catching at $2050 with SS hardware and hip articulation included Anyone have any experience with Rigging Innovations gear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 98 #18 December 17, 2011 Quote The general concensus seems to be a custom fit rig, no matter who makes it, will be pretty comfortable. That said, taking the RSL into consideration and speaking to my rigger, I'm really digging the asthetics of the Talon FX. The price is also eye catching at $2050 with SS hardware and hip articulation included Anyone have any experience with Rigging Innovations gear? You might want to call them and make sure they can make a container big enough to hold the canopies you will (should) be using (big canopies if you're wise). Look at the bottom of the page: http://www.rigginginnovations.com/products/talon_fx.htmPeople are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerminalGravity 0 #19 December 17, 2011 I was interested in the Wings EXT, however they say it is not for anyone jumping bigger than a 150 main. I'm rockin a 230 for a while Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerminalGravity 0 #20 December 17, 2011 After I posted that, I kept reading and looks like the biggest main would be a 210. Since I just downsized to a 230, probably not the container for me. Damn it's nice looking though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #21 December 17, 2011 My Wings W30 holds a 230 Silhouette main and a 253 R reserve. "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,230 #22 December 17, 2011 Is "they" the factory telling you that? I''ve never heard that.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #23 December 17, 2011 from the Wings website. 2. THE WINGS EXT The Longer, Sleeker Wings! The Wing EXT series is specifically designed for taller jumpers (generally 5'10" and up). If you fly small (under 120 square foot) high performance mains but like the security of a larger reserve (i.e.: 79 Velocity and a PD 126) the EXT might be for you. Please note that this container is NOT for people jumping 150 canopies and over. And also note that this container does not have any extra options, it doesn't cost anything more. It's just a different shape. Link to that page http://www.skydivewings.com/index.php?page=our_products "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,230 #24 December 17, 2011 Meh. Call Henri abd tell him what you'd lile and see what he says. All my EXTs had a bigger than 150 albeit not > 210Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 0 #25 December 17, 2011 Here, I think the price is off by about $700, but that's what haggling is for: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/detail_page.cgi?ID=119624;d=1 The most comfy rig is the one that lets you still sit down comfortably after paying for it. Big Boy rigs come available in the classifieds, periodically. You're going to be hard on your first container. Why tear up a brand new one? Good Luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
