Bonedaddy 14 #1 October 8, 2011 After many years in the sport I've gotten too old and brittle and am selling my gear. I've got a Pegasus main, and a Firefly reserve packed in a Vector and I don't have a clue what to ask for it. Can somebody give me some help here? Also, forgive me if this isn't the right forum to ask this question in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #2 October 8, 2011 QuoteAfter many years in the sport I've gotten too old and brittle and am selling my gear. I've got a Pegasus main, and a Firefly reserve packed in a Vector and I don't have a clue what to ask for it. Can somebody give me some help here? Also, forgive me if this isn't the right forum to ask this question in. how many jumps does your gear have ? any repairs done or needing to be done ? what are the DOMs ? what size person is it made for ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonedaddy 14 #3 October 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteAfter many years in the sport I've gotten too old and brittle and am selling my gear. I've got a Pegasus main, and a Firefly reserve packed in a Vector and I don't have a clue what to ask for it. Can somebody give me some help here? Also, forgive me if this isn't the right forum to ask this question in. how many jumps does your gear have ? any repairs done or needing to be done ? what are the DOMs ? what size person is it made for ? Just pulled out my logbooks and checked. The Pegasus, Firefly, and Vector were all bought new in November 1981. The Pegasus has 146 jumps and is in great condition (alternating blue and white cells). The Firefly is in mint condition with 2 reserve rides on it. The Vector is blue and white and is also in great shape. Nothing needs any repairs. I weighed 180 while jumping the rig and it landed me softly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 9 #4 October 8, 2011 If you got a couple of boxes of beer you'd be doing alright. 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #5 October 8, 2011 There is really no way to sell that gear in todays market. The gear is simply too old to sell as jumpable. It is also nowhere near intersting/old enough to be of interest to "vintage collectors/jumpers". A rigger may not want to pack gear over 20/25ys old (depends on which country and which rigger). Both canopies are non-current models, in fact a newer jumper would not like how the pegasus opens (too hard), flies (too slow) and flares (not enough). Also the gear is likely not AAD ready, pretty much a must for a rig these days you will not find that many people anymore who will jump without a AAD. The best you could do is sell the main and reserve canopies as a car cover/shade, or give them away. If you get a few beers for them, more power to you. Your best bet would be ebay I think, if I were you I'd sell both canopies separate and list them as non-jumpable/decoration, bin the vector. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #6 October 10, 2011 I dsagree. Put them in the classifieds and see what happens - If I had the money I would definitely buy the container to use for CRW so I wouldnt have to keep swapping out my main, and I know a few other people who have recently bought old old gear for CRW or for water jumps. Even these days not every jumper is afraid to jump without an AAD. I am not familiar with the Pagasus but I wouldnt have a problem buying an old canopy just to have as a backup in case I lost my main during a cutaway (again, if I had the money to spare) - an old canopy would be better than sitting on the ground until I saved up enough to replace my main. I would be very surprised if you got anything for the reserve though, other than maybe selling it on Ebay as a car cover - but you never know. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marisan 0 #7 October 10, 2011 QuoteThere is really no way to sell that gear in todays market. The gear is simply too old to sell as jumpable. It is also nowhere near intersting/old enough to be of interest to "vintage collectors/jumpers". A rigger may not want to pack gear over 20/25ys old (depends on which country and which rigger). Both canopies are non-current models, in fact a newer jumper would not like how the pegasus opens (too hard), flies (too slow) and flares (not enough). Ever jumped a Pegasus? Best canopy I ever owned in 2,500 jumps. Opened perfectly (and softly) Great for accuracy (Stable in deep brakes) Landed softly and a great CRW Canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fossg 0 #8 October 10, 2011 Every one I've known who jumped a Pegasus swore by it and not at it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites councilman24 37 #9 October 10, 2011 I think 1981 is going to be an original Vector. (I may be wrong, to far to go down stairs and look) Velcro on the reserve pin protector and old style Vector reserve PC. And what type of main deployment? I haven't seen an original Vector in the air for a long time. At least most had the PC's changed. Most folks, including me that jump old Vectors for second, third, fourth, and sometimes primary rigs jump Vector II's. I'm sure a lot of the new folks don't even realize that there was a Vector before the Vector II and III. Be up front about that if you do sell it. I doubt I would pack a Vector I PC. And 30 years is getting old for anything. The Pegasus with low jumps is as good an F-111 canopy for old timers as any. There are riggers that would pack the 30 year old firefly but I'm not one. Not for someone's last chance to live.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #10 October 10, 2011 QuoteEvery one I've known who jumped a Pegasus swore by it and not at it 100% loved that canopy ..... but then again the previous ones I used were Strato-Clouds in Hogs (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 136 #11 October 10, 2011 i'd give 100$. If interested, PM mescissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bonedaddy 14 #12 October 10, 2011 For what it's worth, I've jumped the old ropes and rings Clouds, Strato Stars, newer model Clouds, Cruise Airs, Stilettos, and a bunch of other canopies as well and nothing, but nothing, was as stable or put me down as comfortably as the Pegasus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #13 October 10, 2011 It's worth something. There are still places and people that jump the older gear, especially with few jumps on it. The Pegasus used to be a highly sought after canopy for BASE jumps before the advent of specialized BASE canopies, and you still see them being jumped and used for ridge soaring. The Firefly became the Firelite once Django morphed into Glide Path. It's a good main canopy. I did my first CRW on those canopies too. If you wanted a nice little pair of fun canopies to do CRW on, they'd do. Just because they aren't state of the art doesn't mean they are unsafe or unusable. The whole modern sport was built in part on the use of these canopies and others like it in the 80's. Id' say you got a $6-700 set of gear there..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hokierower 0 #14 October 10, 2011 Maybe it wouldn't be useful as a full time rig, but for someone looking for a beach rig or water rig it probably wouldn't be too bad. I'll defer to the more experienced on this one though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites likestojump 3 #15 October 10, 2011 Exactly what I am thinking. The Pegasus is rumored to be what one of the still produced BASE canopies is modeled after. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjumpenfool 2 #16 October 12, 2011 QuoteFor what it's worth, I've jumped the old ropes and rings Clouds, Strato Stars, newer model Clouds, Cruise Airs, Stilettos, and a bunch of other canopies as well and nothing, but nothing, was as stable or put me down as comfortably as the Pegasus. I bought my Pegasus in 81 as well. Always opened great, flew predictable, landed soft, etc. We are using old f-111's as CRW canopies. I'd be interested in your rig, however as stated above, I'd probly not be willing to spend over $100. But, PM me and lets talk.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Krip 2 #17 October 14, 2011 Hi Was that $100 including the cost of postage. One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 136 #18 October 14, 2011 Quote Hi Was that $100 including the cost of postage. To Bonedaddy, if you are still around, did you already sell at a better offer or are you still willing to sell?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bonedaddy 14 #19 October 15, 2011 Still here, but I'm in the process of moving and will be out of the picture for awhile. Right now the gear is packed away and won't be available for some time. As soon as things are in the new place and settled down I'll get back with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pms07 3 #20 October 15, 2011 QuoteI think 1981 is going to be an original Vector. (I may be wrong, to far to go down stairs and look) Velcro on the reserve pin protector and old style Vector reserve PC. And what type of main deployment? If it's an original Vector made in 81 it will have the main pilot chute pouch on the front of the legstrap, I think 24" PC, with the suspension line bridle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slotperfect 7 #21 October 15, 2011 Please do not discuss terms in this thread. Use PMs. Gear transactions are not allowed in the forums, although asking for advice regarding price is fine.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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fossg 0 #8 October 10, 2011 Every one I've known who jumped a Pegasus swore by it and not at it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #9 October 10, 2011 I think 1981 is going to be an original Vector. (I may be wrong, to far to go down stairs and look) Velcro on the reserve pin protector and old style Vector reserve PC. And what type of main deployment? I haven't seen an original Vector in the air for a long time. At least most had the PC's changed. Most folks, including me that jump old Vectors for second, third, fourth, and sometimes primary rigs jump Vector II's. I'm sure a lot of the new folks don't even realize that there was a Vector before the Vector II and III. Be up front about that if you do sell it. I doubt I would pack a Vector I PC. And 30 years is getting old for anything. The Pegasus with low jumps is as good an F-111 canopy for old timers as any. There are riggers that would pack the 30 year old firefly but I'm not one. Not for someone's last chance to live.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 October 10, 2011 QuoteEvery one I've known who jumped a Pegasus swore by it and not at it 100% loved that canopy ..... but then again the previous ones I used were Strato-Clouds in Hogs (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #11 October 10, 2011 i'd give 100$. If interested, PM mescissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonedaddy 14 #12 October 10, 2011 For what it's worth, I've jumped the old ropes and rings Clouds, Strato Stars, newer model Clouds, Cruise Airs, Stilettos, and a bunch of other canopies as well and nothing, but nothing, was as stable or put me down as comfortably as the Pegasus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #13 October 10, 2011 It's worth something. There are still places and people that jump the older gear, especially with few jumps on it. The Pegasus used to be a highly sought after canopy for BASE jumps before the advent of specialized BASE canopies, and you still see them being jumped and used for ridge soaring. The Firefly became the Firelite once Django morphed into Glide Path. It's a good main canopy. I did my first CRW on those canopies too. If you wanted a nice little pair of fun canopies to do CRW on, they'd do. Just because they aren't state of the art doesn't mean they are unsafe or unusable. The whole modern sport was built in part on the use of these canopies and others like it in the 80's. Id' say you got a $6-700 set of gear there..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hokierower 0 #14 October 10, 2011 Maybe it wouldn't be useful as a full time rig, but for someone looking for a beach rig or water rig it probably wouldn't be too bad. I'll defer to the more experienced on this one though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #15 October 10, 2011 Exactly what I am thinking. The Pegasus is rumored to be what one of the still produced BASE canopies is modeled after. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #16 October 12, 2011 QuoteFor what it's worth, I've jumped the old ropes and rings Clouds, Strato Stars, newer model Clouds, Cruise Airs, Stilettos, and a bunch of other canopies as well and nothing, but nothing, was as stable or put me down as comfortably as the Pegasus. I bought my Pegasus in 81 as well. Always opened great, flew predictable, landed soft, etc. We are using old f-111's as CRW canopies. I'd be interested in your rig, however as stated above, I'd probly not be willing to spend over $100. But, PM me and lets talk.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #17 October 14, 2011 Hi Was that $100 including the cost of postage. One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #18 October 14, 2011 Quote Hi Was that $100 including the cost of postage. To Bonedaddy, if you are still around, did you already sell at a better offer or are you still willing to sell?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonedaddy 14 #19 October 15, 2011 Still here, but I'm in the process of moving and will be out of the picture for awhile. Right now the gear is packed away and won't be available for some time. As soon as things are in the new place and settled down I'll get back with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pms07 3 #20 October 15, 2011 QuoteI think 1981 is going to be an original Vector. (I may be wrong, to far to go down stairs and look) Velcro on the reserve pin protector and old style Vector reserve PC. And what type of main deployment? If it's an original Vector made in 81 it will have the main pilot chute pouch on the front of the legstrap, I think 24" PC, with the suspension line bridle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #21 October 15, 2011 Please do not discuss terms in this thread. Use PMs. Gear transactions are not allowed in the forums, although asking for advice regarding price is fine.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
