weaverd 0 #26 August 7, 2011 Hopefully, it works in that mode, Was that the AAD you were using the other day when you had your partial bag lock ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #27 August 7, 2011 Aviacom already confirmed that it would work in this mode as well. And yes, it was the same rig..."When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 0 #28 August 7, 2011 Bill, I already covered this one in follow-up posts. If I jumped to the wrong conclusion? Fair enough, that one is on me. For the record, I don't have it in for Aviacom. I have seen & heard things about their responses (& even more important to me, their non-responses) during & after the bannings. This, & my level of low-timer understanding of the Argus, lead me to not want to jump their product. There are some on this board who seem to love to jump on Aviacom. I mean regular posters, not the plants w/a clear agenda. What may have been misunderstood about my posts on this, is my growing frustration. I had posted a link to an NTSB report about people being killed by an AAD. Until someone had brought that report to my attention. I had no idea about that incident. I doubt many other Newbs had ever heard of it, either (including a friend who recently bought one for the same reasons I would have). I come to these boards, in large part, to learn how not to get seriously F'ed up &/or killed. This is info I need to make gear choices. I know a wealth of knowledge is here on the board. Yet, whenever an AAD thread gets started? It's like someone wants to discuss the virtues of kiddy porn or something... It gets squashed/deleted almost immediately. I don't understand the unwillingness of putting just the facts out there. Emotions run high on this subject. That's clear. How about a locked thread w/only official reports on it? Then, A) We can see the different incidents that have occurred. &, B) We can discuss them w/our mentors. The discussions don't have to occur here @all. Is it sponsorship issues, advertisers, what? It's paradoxical that a board whose function is to disseminate info, refuses to do so on this one topic. What is the problem? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 93 #29 August 7, 2011 There are so many threads about AAD issues/problems, so much info very much available. How can you think it is not? So much info is available than when stupid threads and wild accusations against mods are posted, they get appropriately locked/deleted. That doesn't change the availability of what is still there.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 0 #30 August 7, 2011 I already said that bogus, biased smear-tactics should get squashed. I've no more interest in reading them than anyone else. If there already exists a thread w/the info like I mentioned here. Please show me where. Granted, I haven't done a general search for one on the forums. Why? Because it seems pointless. Every time a thread gets started. It disappears almost as quickly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #31 August 7, 2011 QuoteI had posted a link to an NTSB report about people being killed by an AAD. Until someone had brought that report to my attention. If you accepted PM's I would explain this to you. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weaverd 0 #32 August 7, 2011 phew well thats good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucketlistpilot 1 #33 August 7, 2011 When I turn mine on it says "Screw You jumper, from the APF"Ian Purvis http://www.loadupsoftware.com LoadUp DZ Management App [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadist 0 #34 August 7, 2011 Quote When I turn mine on it says "Screw You jumper, from the APF" GOLD! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #35 August 8, 2011 QuoteThe device is also working in this configuration. It's a "feature" for technical use. Now I understand the reluctance to post the fix publicly. None of us have any reason to be in those menus. Now that it's been posted, I can foresee bozos plying with them and really screwing things up.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #36 August 8, 2011 >It gets squashed/deleted almost immediately. I don't understand the unwillingness of >putting just the facts out there. That's one way of looking at it and . . . >I already said that bogus, biased smear-tactics should get squashed. I've no more >interest in reading them than anyone else. That's another. We try to make sure good information (reports on AAD malfunctions, manufacturer's responses, commentary on how they work like this thread) stays up but the crap (paranoid conspiracy theories, baseless attacks on other people/companies/gear, grossly distorted facts etc) is minimized. Drawing that line is not always easy, since some of the more disruptive posters will do things like create multiple logins and post the same material in multiple forums to try to get their conspiracy theories out there. So do we delete all the stuff they post? Or do we edit it down to the actual facts? Can we trust someone like that to post _any_ facts? If we delete their thread, do we try to extract and re-post people's replies to it, which may contain useful info? We try to make judgment calls on that line, and we don't always hit it 100%. As an aside, if people do feel that a thread on AAD's (or any topic) is going off-track please PM us. If you feel that there's a thread that's really useful to you personally also tell us about that, so we can try to encourage/retain such threads even when they get contentious. That way we get some feedback on what people are finding useful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #37 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote The device is also working in this configuration. It's a "feature" for technical use. Now I understand the reluctance to post the fix publicly. None of us have any reason to be in those menus. Now that it's been posted, I can foresee bozos plying with them and really screwing things up. All it is, is a diagnostic display. He said the unit is still operational in this mode, just displaying things that most users wouldn't care to see. Hell, most users don't know anything more than blink-push. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skybear 0 #38 August 8, 2011 QuoteAs far as I could tell, I used it in that configuration for all the jumps I did on it, but truthfully, I have no idea if it would have fired. Do you think it is wise to jump with an AAD of whichever brand, that shows something on the display that you can't interpret? I think the manual says pretty clear what must be shown on the display when it is ready to jump. Anything else can be dangerous for you ans your fellow jumpers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #39 August 8, 2011 You are absolutely correct, but like I said, the screen made sense to me, I just hadn't compared it to the manual, nor to my alternate unit. The screen showed the detected altitude (0 on the ground), and vertical speed (0 as well). That made sense to me when I saw "0" for both. When I had both units on, side by side, that's what triggered me to notice the difference. Up until then, I only had one unit and the screen I saw made sense to me. With the second one beside it, that's when I said "wait a second". The unit started normally and passed it's self checks as I expected it to, so I saw no reason to investigate further. I had no reason to believe it should have shown anything else. Yeah, I'm a dumbass for not checking a manual, but unless I'm triggered to believe there's a problem, I had nonreason to compare the display to what the manual said. And yes, I did read the manual, but by the time it was installed and tested, I must have overlooked that."When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #40 August 8, 2011 "Your place of mine, big boy?" "Do you have the condoms?" "Hundred bucks...in advance, big boy." "When are you going to leave? My date is coming."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #41 August 9, 2011 QuoteYeah, I'm a dumbass for not checking a manual, but unless I'm triggered to believe there's a problem, I had nonreason to compare the display to what the manual said. That is really a dumb statement. RTFM completly. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #42 August 9, 2011 Quote RAUTFM completly. FIFY... Read AND UNDERSTAND The Facturer's Manual unfortunately very often people do not read the manuals, be it for a cellphone or a parachute (or parachute components)... Generally cellphone shouldn't try to kill you. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #43 August 9, 2011 Quote Quote RAUTFM completly. FIFY... Read AND UNDERSTAND The Facturer's Manual unfortunately very often people do not read the manuals, be it for a cellphone or a parachute (or parachute components)... Generally cellphone shouldn't try to kill you. You misspelled FUCKING "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #44 August 23, 2011 QuoteAnswer per PM This is a "sticky", at the top of the Safety and Training Forum here. But I think it applies probably very well to this case here, as well. For reference: Replying with "PM Sent"coitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #45 August 23, 2011 Quote You misspelled FUCKING They don't do that over there. They "poke holes through the cheese"My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
