Remster 24 #26 November 19, 2003 Quote Turkey Italy Saudi Arabia Mexico USA Cool... Any of those outside a US military base (its a guess.. It might blow up in my face) Seriously, I find saying one contry is the best, ever, a little bit over the top. As far as your question Shark, I wasnt aware we werent supposed to discuss things on here.... lemme look up that rule....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #27 November 19, 2003 am I the only non-american here ?? except for remster ? there are beautiful sides to the country... but so many things which I would prefer to forget/wish they never had existed... who in here thinks that the afghan problem has been solved ? who thinks they got Bin Ladin ? who thinks the conflict in Irak will be solved quickly and correctly ? (I personnally think it's the same kind of problem than Viet Nam, not at the same scale... but...) who thinks that terrorism will be anihilated by the way the actual government is actually using ? (for me the are increasing the terrorist menace like that) who thinks that the country with greater debt should rule the world ? shouldn't the government think social ?? stop taking care of what's happening in other countries and try to rise this enormous country to a better level ?? solve internal problems before external one ??---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripper0289 0 #28 November 19, 2003 None. Don't need to, history books and visits to plenty of foreign countries are the basis for my opinion, and it's just that, an opinion. I love this place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #29 November 19, 2003 QuoteAs far as your question Shark, I wasnt aware we werent supposed to discuss things on here.... lemme look up that rule.... Discuss or argue one's point of view? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #30 November 19, 2003 Remster: I've recently had one of my best friends over as a visiter. He's British. His favorite quote? "THe American dream is a nightmare." Of course, he likes everything about America excpet the people and the politics. But he professes his love of America. He criticizes American people and the American ethos. He criticizes the American Government. He criticizes American health care. He criticizes the American dream. He knows all about it, as he lived for 9 month at the uni in Santa Barbara, and majored in American Studies. Well, how can he say if he's not anti-American if he is anti everything that makes America what it is? He's a good guy, and one of my best friends. And it is ALWAYS great conversation with him. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee03 0 #31 November 19, 2003 Greatest country EVER! I LOVE this country.. served her for 20 years in the military. Add me among the ranks of being VERY, VERY Extreamly PRO-American! Also add me to the ranks of people that love this country, but HATE and do not trust it's govement, and that is true for when whichever party is in control, ultimately, there "ain't a dime's difference between them!" Old saying rings true. When the government fears the people..what you have is freedom, when the people fear the government.. what you ahve is a tryancy! I fear this government and have for many, many years! Government is the ENEMY of freedon, and freedom loving people!-------- To put your life in danger from time to time ... breeds a saneness in dealing with day-to-day trivialities. --Nevil Shute, Slide Rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #32 November 19, 2003 100% Pro. God Bless America.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #33 November 19, 2003 QuoteGod Bless America. did america sneeze ?? god bless her ---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #34 November 19, 2003 Ok, so here's my stab at it. USA has more opportunity. Our main problem is that we Pipe our media all over the world and tell everyone how good we are. We basically show a commercial of how wonderful it is to live here and how there are all these big houses and ranches, and all this land that you can buy and sell. So then these people want a piece of that "good life". We then make it harder for them to get in. That makes us very popular. After all that we then show them that the tyrannical leaders that they have to bow to can be overthrown. The leaders of those countries see this alone as a threat to them. The media is promoting insurrection, and insubordination. So these leaders make it seem like we are actually evil, heartless beings, when, in fact, we are the opposite. We are the opposite in most cases; Until some one threatens us, or attacks us, then all hell is going to break loose, katy bar the door, and let's roll, cuz if you f**k with us, you goin' down sucka!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #35 November 19, 2003 Quote Greatest. Country Ever. I agree. I was born in Peru, which is an amazing country that I love with all my heart; however, my family moved to the United States when I was 8 months old. From a young age until now, I have traveled and experienced many countries and cultures. Along with the rest of my family, I became an American citizen at the age of 14. (Yes, my family let it be my choice.) Sure, many other countries have more history, as I have seen firsthand through my travels. Still other countries have governing systems that others may feel more compatible with. Personally, there is no other country that I feel the most liberated within. The United States is the country within which I feel that I am the best able to pursue my goals and dreams. I would rather live here than anywhere else in the world. With all its so-called imperfections, I still love this country and am so very proud to be an American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyOwnWay 0 #36 November 19, 2003 i get goose bumps every time i hear the star spangled banner good ol' usa_________________________________________ all good things are wild and free - Henry David Thoreau Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #37 November 19, 2003 Quoteshouldn't the government think social ?? stop taking care of what's happening in other countries and try to rise this enormous country to a better level ?? solve internal problems before external one ?? I don't see how the destruction of the twin towers was an internal problem...and the government thinking 'social'...hmmm...well socialism promotes mediocrity. No one will ever raise a statue or a memorial for mediocre achievement. Just my humble opinion, didn't mean to sound like I'm putting you down, though...we all have our views, but I served this country and I'll stand by it through it's glorious achievements as well as it's struggles.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #38 November 19, 2003 Quote how can he say if he's not anti-American if he is anti everything that makes America what it is? I'd agree with you, it doesnt make much sense! Personnally, the only think I can be pro- about without hesitation is chocolate. But then you get into tho whole cheap low cacao content chococlate debate.... Shark: my point is that not being pro american doenst make you anti american. If you cant understand that, well, i really diont know what else to say.....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #39 November 19, 2003 The cool thing about living in america is that I'm not living somewhere else. Of all the places that I could have ended up when I was born (if we were to make it random occurence), I think that this is one of the best of them. There have not been any major wars within the border of the US for a long long time, I don't have to worry about if the power will be on, I don't have to worry about daily fighting in the streets, I can say and do preety much whatever I want without worrying if the government is going to come knock on my door and put a bullet in my head, the list goes on. By no means am I saying that other countries don't have many of these same things going for them, but thats not the point here. Do I think everything that our government does in other countries is the best or only solution, hmm maybe not, but they are sure trying hard to make things right. We can't just sit back and let the world fall apart around us, because that is a threat to our existance inside our country, and a threat to american business investment in other countries. If americans didn't invest in things outside our country then maybe no one would care about the rest of the world. I think it is often the case though, that people only consider the negative image things that we do without respect for the intent, and final goal. Often the investments, donations, and human rights effort that americans put forth is completely forgotten.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #40 November 19, 2003 I consider the USA to be just a huge southern province Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #41 November 19, 2003 QuoteI consider the USA to be just a huge southern province Ain't that the truth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sssbc99 0 #42 November 19, 2003 Hey .....Lets go skydiving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropoutdave 0 #43 November 19, 2003 QuoteGovernment is a bit screwed up at times, but my ability to say that is part of the freedoms we enjoy here in the US. Your free to do whatever the hell you government tells you too. Here you are America, watch American Gladiators, here's 20 channels of it, go back to bed American, you are free to do what your government tells you to do. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #44 November 19, 2003 And how many DZ's are there in IRAN? Pakistan? Iraq?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropoutdave 0 #45 November 20, 2003 Won't be long now, McDonalds and Burger King have already got their foot in the door. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kai2k1 0 #46 November 20, 2003 I AM AMERICAN!! There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #47 November 20, 2003 You need a 3rd option, of non-plusmostly they are OK,(I say they because the USA is a chunkl of land) but there is a very parochial majority, with narrow minded views on how the world should run. I travelled all over the mainland states about 5 years ago, and my favoured places were San Francisco, Seatle, Chicago and Miami. The place that worried me the most was in the mid south Corbin Kentucky springs to mind. I think the reason I liked the cities I did was due to the diversity there. The places with a more homogenous populartion tended to be very insular, and not very "up" on world affairs. But overall I had a great timeOf course this was all before I started skydivingYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marcandalysse 0 #48 November 20, 2003 now this thread just got kicked up a notch on the hot scale pro american or anti american is a very poor binary choice in a multiple-choice filled country. I am pro human, although the way humanity has misbehaved throughout known history makes me wonder if I'm the same homo 'sapiens' clan as most. (being skydiving tribe makes me feel closer to the bird clan sometimes) Whenever and where ever I have traveled, when asked where I come from, my first reply is 'I'm from Planet Earth.' There's a number of countries that consider themselves 'Americans'. They don't understand why we think we(USA) are "THE AMERICANS"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DivaSkyChick 0 #49 November 20, 2003 What a strange question, Sharky! What does it mean to be anti-American? To quote (prolly not so well) the wonderful activist Arandati Roy, "does it mean that I don't like Jazz? Or that I do not delight in John Updike or Toni Morrison? That I have some quarrel with giant sequoias? Or that I hate free speech or am against human rights?" "Anti American" is fast becoming an idealogy for shrink-wrapped brains. Personally, I believe our forefathers would be appaulled at the encroachments our government is making on human rights. I might add that I do not believe that American capitalism as it is being played out today is sustainable, if militaries are needed to protect our interests. The hidden hand of the market should not need the clenched fist behind it. My two cents (mingled with Arandati's millions) --- www.facebook.com/mandyhamptonfitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #50 November 20, 2003 I am very Pro-American. I also remember the Vietnam Era Protests while I was in the military... with rednecks all over the country shouting AMERICA... LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
dropoutdave 0 #43 November 19, 2003 QuoteGovernment is a bit screwed up at times, but my ability to say that is part of the freedoms we enjoy here in the US. Your free to do whatever the hell you government tells you too. Here you are America, watch American Gladiators, here's 20 channels of it, go back to bed American, you are free to do what your government tells you to do. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #44 November 19, 2003 And how many DZ's are there in IRAN? Pakistan? Iraq?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #45 November 20, 2003 Won't be long now, McDonalds and Burger King have already got their foot in the door. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #46 November 20, 2003 I AM AMERICAN!! There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #47 November 20, 2003 You need a 3rd option, of non-plusmostly they are OK,(I say they because the USA is a chunkl of land) but there is a very parochial majority, with narrow minded views on how the world should run. I travelled all over the mainland states about 5 years ago, and my favoured places were San Francisco, Seatle, Chicago and Miami. The place that worried me the most was in the mid south Corbin Kentucky springs to mind. I think the reason I liked the cities I did was due to the diversity there. The places with a more homogenous populartion tended to be very insular, and not very "up" on world affairs. But overall I had a great timeOf course this was all before I started skydivingYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #48 November 20, 2003 now this thread just got kicked up a notch on the hot scale pro american or anti american is a very poor binary choice in a multiple-choice filled country. I am pro human, although the way humanity has misbehaved throughout known history makes me wonder if I'm the same homo 'sapiens' clan as most. (being skydiving tribe makes me feel closer to the bird clan sometimes) Whenever and where ever I have traveled, when asked where I come from, my first reply is 'I'm from Planet Earth.' There's a number of countries that consider themselves 'Americans'. They don't understand why we think we(USA) are "THE AMERICANS"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DivaSkyChick 0 #49 November 20, 2003 What a strange question, Sharky! What does it mean to be anti-American? To quote (prolly not so well) the wonderful activist Arandati Roy, "does it mean that I don't like Jazz? Or that I do not delight in John Updike or Toni Morrison? That I have some quarrel with giant sequoias? Or that I hate free speech or am against human rights?" "Anti American" is fast becoming an idealogy for shrink-wrapped brains. Personally, I believe our forefathers would be appaulled at the encroachments our government is making on human rights. I might add that I do not believe that American capitalism as it is being played out today is sustainable, if militaries are needed to protect our interests. The hidden hand of the market should not need the clenched fist behind it. My two cents (mingled with Arandati's millions) --- www.facebook.com/mandyhamptonfitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #50 November 20, 2003 I am very Pro-American. I also remember the Vietnam Era Protests while I was in the military... with rednecks all over the country shouting AMERICA... LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
