diablopilot 2 #51 January 27, 2004 QuoteDo they make that baby Glock in .357Sig Is this close? http://www.glock.com/g33.htm---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #52 January 27, 2004 QuoteI prefer the 45, but the best one for you is the one you will keep handy. Do they make that baby Glock in .357Sig? Yeah, it's model G33. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #53 January 27, 2004 Ask Bill Wilson if one of his fine 45's has ever AD'd in a K-Mart. You will NOT get a discount. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #54 January 27, 2004 >>Do they make that baby Glock in .357Sig? << You trying to start a fire? ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #55 January 27, 2004 357 magnum, 2" ported barrel 186 grain jacketed hollow points. ...yeah I know but if they're more than 30 feet away I shouldn't be shooting at them!"One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjf98 0 #56 January 27, 2004 Story please. Have never heard it. I for one don't believe in ADs, but rather NDs (negligent). That doesn't mean I'm saying you're lying, just my beliefe on weapons firing accidently because of mishandling. Please do relate the event as you know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #57 January 27, 2004 I took my ex shooting a few times. Before we broke up I told her I wasn't taking her anymore because I couldn't get her to pick the gun up without her finger in the trigger guard. Fortunately, Jimbo was on the other side of the partition in the next lane and didn't see that it was pointed at him while she was doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #58 January 27, 2004 It was Bill's wife (whose name escapes me, but she is a sweetheart). Anyway, she was in the john at K-Mart, and while adjusting her sh!t getting ready to come back out unholstered the gun partway and then reholstered it. Either some of her clothing or, more likely, her finger, got in the trigger guard, and she sent one straight down the side of her leg into the floor. The way I heard the story, she was not seriously injured at all, but had a big burn on her thigh, a long scratch down her lower leg, a little flesh missing from the outside of her foot, a seriously mangled shoe, and a viciously bruised ego. If you search for the story on some of the IDPA message boards, you will find much discussion about it. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #59 January 27, 2004 QuoteDCP_0290web.jpg What's the blue paint for on the back of your handgun grip and in two places on your rifle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsoder 0 #60 January 27, 2004 Quotethat is quite nice. $1300 out the door? I like that Kimber.-Caress I paid a lot less than that from a place in Scottsdale. If you want their contact info let me know via PM. (So as to avoid breaking the advertising rule ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #61 January 27, 2004 >>I for one don't believe in ADs, but rather NDs (negligent). That doesn't mean I'm saying you're lying, just my beliefe on weapons firing accidently because of mishandling. Please do relate the event as you know it. << Did not notice this part before. It was clearly a mishandling issue and a negligent discharge. My friends call them ADs if there are no bad results, and NDs if there are consequences. We give Mrs. Wilson the benefit of the doubt. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #62 January 27, 2004 Quote9mm, or .45ACP? I own a Colt 1911 Combat Commander. It's a large gun if you're looking for something to carry concealed, but you gain the added stopping power over the more easily concealable 9mm's. A less experienced shooter is going to be more accurate with a 9mm, but with practice you can hold a tight pattern with a .45ACP at 25yds. Colt was the original .45ACP gun, but Glock also makes great .45ACP's (as well as many other calibers, including 9mm). The Colts and Glocks are both great guns, and I can't really recommend one over the other. My 1911 is over twenty years old, but I love it. It features three main safeties--a thumb safety (must be disengaged to pull the trigger), a grip safety (gun won't fire unless somebody is actual holding it), and a half-cock position on the hammer (catches the hammer if something causes it to fall without the trigger being pulled). The gun is carried cocked and locked (hammer cocked, safety on), and when you are ready to fire, you draw, release the thumb safety and fire. The newer models also have a passive safety that disengages the firing pin. The 1911 is thinner than a Glock, so it is easier to carry IWB (inside the waistband). Glock now makes a narrower .45ACP (the Glock 36), but it sacrifices magazine capacity for its narrower width (the magazine only holds six rounds). The Glock also has three safeties, but they are all passive internal safeties. Like the grip safety, half-cock safety, and the pin safety on the 1911, they are there to prevent the gun from firing if it is dropped, and they disengage automatically when somebody holding the gun pulls the trigger. You can draw and fire a fraction of a second faster because there are no safeties to disengage before firing, but you loose the ability to "lock" the trigger. One advantage of the Glock over the traditional 1911 is that the Glock is double action, meaning that the hammer is cocked automatically when you squeeze the trigger. On a traditional 1911, the hammer must be cocked manually before you fire the first round (after that, the recoil of the slide recocks the hammer between rounds). If you wish to decock your 1911, you must pull the trigger while holding your thumb over the hammer and slowly lower the hammer. This can be nerve-wracking the first few times you do it, but after a few tries it becomes pretty second nature. Some manufacturers (including Colt) now offer a variation of the 1911 design in a double action configuration. If I was looking for a new .45ACP, I would definitely consider one of these. Some people like to point out that the 1911 is made of stainless steel and the Glock is made mostly of industrial strength plastic, but from my experience and the people I've talked to, the Glock is every bit as durable (if not more so) than the 1911. There are a lot of 1911 and Glock knockoffs on the market, but the best is always the original.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #63 January 27, 2004 ***I paid a lot less than that from a place in Scottsdale. *** That brings up another question. Is there a benifit to shoping for a handgun outside the satate of CA, and would a person have trouble bringing it back into CA?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #64 January 27, 2004 For what? For self defense, you can't go wrong with a .45, for plinking 9mm is great. 9mm can be used very well for self defense, but you need the right kind of load to do that. I prefer the Federal Hydroshok 147gr.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #65 January 27, 2004 Between the two go with .45ACP, because you cannot carry as many rounds anymore, unless you got some of the older mags. Honestly, I like my Glock 27 .40. Compact with a competition trigger, you get the best of a 9mm and a .45 all in one round. (I got two cuz I'm a freak like that. Besides you never know when you could find yourself in a John Woo style shoot out.) Perfect for CCL/CWP, too. You can never go wrong with .357 though. You can shoot .38 or .357 Mags. Use the Mags for self-defense and the .38's for practicing your perforation skills.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjf98 0 #66 January 27, 2004 [rjf98 sucks in air through his teeth] WOW.. .how embarassing. Glad no one was hurt. I'll make sure not to mention it when I talk with them on the phone about some mods to my current .45 Hey JP: I've got a 1911 for sale. If you weren't looking to spend boatloads and want it for target and not carry it's perfect. I have carried it for years, but it is set up with high-profile target sites and a very light trigger if you're interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #67 January 27, 2004 Rich, When you finally get out of hippy country, you and me have got to go shooting!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsoder 0 #68 January 27, 2004 QuoteGlock now makes a narrower .45ACP (the Glock 36), but it sacrifices magazine capacity for its narrower width (the magazine only holds six rounds). I don't care for Glocks that much personally. They're fine as far as construction, quality, etc - I just MUCH prefer the feel of a single-stack. I've never tried a 36 tho. Mabye I'll rent one sometime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjf98 0 #69 January 28, 2004 Visit in Feb... Home in March. Might have a tandem rating by then as well. Rich Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #70 January 28, 2004 I had a Glock 36, I gave it to my dad. I have large hands, even with a mag extension, the damned thing would almost come out of my hand(s) after 2 quick shots. Don't care for Glocks? You know, a guy at the tactical defense course I took said the same thing to me when we were showing off our weapons before the class started. He had a seriously tricked out bench customized 1911. Well, after I out shot him throughout the course (actually, I got the award for top shooter) and after his recoil spring broke AND he had 3 jams, I laughed and said my Glock 17 sure is nice. Funny, its pretty accurate and through the 14,000+ rds I've put through it, I've had 1 and only 1 malfunction. Stove piped a round. That's not a bad track record.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #71 January 28, 2004 Hippy country? Where?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #72 January 28, 2004 Well, Rich *is* in California.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #73 January 28, 2004 I know, me too! I just want to be on the look out for em'!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjf98 0 #74 January 28, 2004 Not the weapon, it's the shooter. I've got to go with what is combat tested and proved by our boys. That would be a single action 45 based off of the 1911 frame and slide. Current units that I respect that are using some form of this weapon. Delta, Force Recon, FBI HRT. I know plenty of operators that prefer it for contract work as well. There are some OUTSTANDING and proven weapons from other manufactures etc. My personal opinion on the popularity of Glocks is this. It's made for dummies. No safety. Pull the trigger it fires, don't pull the trigger it doesn't fire. This makes it a very nice transition from wheel gun for most Police departments. The simplicity is also good for those who don't choose to train as much as they should. H&K, Sig, both make great weapons. I never said other weapons weren't adequate or used by some very reputable organizations. Rich now puts on flame suit because I know it's comming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #75 January 28, 2004 QuoteWhat's the blue paint for on the back of your handgun grip and in two places on your rifle? It's tape. It's used to quickly ID who's gun and parts are who's. It makes it easier when your reconfiguring your weapon or cleaning parts."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
