AggieDave 6 #51 February 12, 2004 Quotehell John Rich has more firepower than Syria And that's just in his pants! --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #52 February 12, 2004 QuoteWell, I think it should. At least I think I do . . . What would the pros and cons be? It already has it's own Constitution. *YES!!! All borders should be shut down for 3 years(more if Texas wishes. I mean barbed wire Marshal Law style. 10 years from now it will be the only state left worth living in.(because the rest of our borders will be still left open to a point of our demise ...spare our souls_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #53 February 12, 2004 QuoteI know, and to think that Tennesseeans saved their asses! You're still pissed about Davy Crocket's "You can all go to hell; I'm going to Texas" line, aren't you? --Douva PS. Didn't the Tennesseans all die at the battle of the Alamo?I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #54 February 12, 2004 BWAHAHAHAHAHA....this is hooknswoops favorite subject and he will tell anyone who will listen. He beleives that Texas should get the F*&% out, split CA in half and the US won't have to change the flag.... Actually he says a lot more than that, but that is the short version.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #55 February 12, 2004 QuoteThat is why the Civil War was fought a few decades later on. Despite the fact that most Texans think the world and it's history revolve around them, ummm, it doesn't. Secession of southern states was just one of many issues leading to the start of the civil war, but Texas played a lessor role in successionary politics. Quote ... At the heart of the problem was indeed slavery, but the events concerning the slavery issue are very complex. The course includes information in the following areas; 1. Introduction 2. The Violation Of States Right 3. The Given The Right Of Secession 4. Tariffs, Taxes, Sectionalism, And Southern Minority 5. The Precedent For Southern Succession 6. Public Approval For Southern Secession 7. Problems With The Diverse Political Parties 8. Congressional Compromise 9. The Wilmot Proviso and The Kansas-Nebraska Act 10. The Fugitive Slave Laws Of 1850 11. Bleeding Kansas 12. Abolitionist Voices And Actions 13. A Break Down Of The Judicial System; The Dred Scott Case 14. The Election Of 1860. ... In the entire Civil War, less than a handful of significant battles took place in Texas, so it doesn't look like anyone wanted them then either. I believe they still teach that Texas is the largest state in America down there too At least my old college roomate from El Paso seemed to think so.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #56 February 12, 2004 QuoteI believe they still teach that Texas is the largest state in America down there too At least my old college roomate from El Paso seemed to think so. Actually, they teach that Texas is the largest conterminous state in the US... but Texas, like every other place in the world, has its share of stupid people that don't understand that concept. Perhaps your roommate was simply one of those people, and not a "stereotypical" Texan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #57 February 12, 2004 conterminous? They didn't teach us that word in college! But come to think of it, there were no English classes in my college either. Damn - now I have to go look that up. Oh, got it. Quote[adj] connecting without a break; within a common boundary; "the 48 conterminous states"; "the contiguous 48 states" Here's another factoid. With 104,100 square miles, Colorado is the largest parellelogram state in the US. They never taught us that in school in Colorado, but I guess because it's probably useless information. Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #58 February 12, 2004 Geez, what college did you go to with no English classes? Some sort of geek college??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #59 February 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteThat is why the Civil War was fought a few decades later on. Despite the fact that most Texans think the world and it's history revolve around them, ummm, it doesn't. Secession of southern states was just one of many issues leading to the start of the civil war, but Texas played a lessor role in successionary politics. Quote ... At the heart of the problem was indeed slavery, but the events concerning the slavery issue are very complex. The course includes information in the following areas; 1. Introduction 2. The Violation Of States Right 3. The Given The Right Of Secession 4. Tariffs, Taxes, Sectionalism, And Southern Minority 5. The Precedent For Southern Succession 6. Public Approval For Southern Secession 7. Problems With The Diverse Political Parties 8. Congressional Compromise 9. The Wilmot Proviso and The Kansas-Nebraska Act 10. The Fugitive Slave Laws Of 1850 11. Bleeding Kansas 12. Abolitionist Voices And Actions 13. A Break Down Of The Judicial System; The Dred Scott Case 14. The Election Of 1860. ... In the entire Civil War, less than a handful of significant battles took place in Texas, so it doesn't look like anyone wanted them then either. I believe they still teach that Texas is the largest state in America down there too At least my old college roomate from El Paso seemed to think so. A. I don't think John Rich's comments in any way insinuated that Texas was the cause of the Civil War or a major contributor to the Civil War. It wasn't. Texas was not a plantation state, so it wasn't as big a deal to us. There was actually a time when the Texas government wasn't sure whether it would side with the North or the South. In the end, they joined the side that most closely matched their ideals (some of which were very screwed up and others of which were really pretty solid). B. Don't assume anything about Texas school systems based on your one bumpkin roommate from El Paso. Our social studies books say the same thing as everybody else's. C. I'm pretty sure this thread started as a joke. Some of the comments made show real ignorance and contempt for a large, diverse body of fellow Americans. As I've said before, it never fails to amuse me the way the enlightened have no problem throwing around stereotypes when it comes to Texas. They'd set their mothers on fire before putting down one gender, race, or religion, but the second most populous state in the United States is fair game.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #60 February 12, 2004 QuoteWith 104,100 square miles, Colorado is the largest parellelogram state in the US. Ok, so you made me have to look up a word too. But, BTW, you misspelled it... it should be parAllelogram. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #61 February 12, 2004 Quoteit should be parAllelogram. Like I said - no English classes in my college Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #62 February 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteit should be parAllelogram. Like I said - no English classes in my college OK, I'll let it go then... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #63 February 12, 2004 Quote I don't think John Rich's comments in any way insinuated that Texas was the cause of the Civil War or a major contributor to the Civil War. Sorry then. I misunderstood what he meant. *** And when they (Texas) were adopted into the Union, they insisted that they retain the right to secede if they ever wished to do so in the future. As far as I know, no other state has that clause in their Constitution. That is why the Civil War was fought a few decades later on. ***Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #64 February 12, 2004 BTW, I like your sig line... Quote"I was required to exchange chimeras of boundless grandeur for realities of little worth." - Mary Shelley Frankenstein is one of my favorite books... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riddler 0 #65 February 12, 2004 QuoteFrankenstein is one of my favorite books... And freely available on-line for all to read. http://www.online-literature.com/shelley_mary/frankenstein/Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Douva 0 #66 February 12, 2004 QuoteQuote I don't think John Rich's comments in any way insinuated that Texas was the cause of the Civil War or a major contributor to the Civil War. Sorry then. I misunderstood what he meant. *** And when they (Texas) were adopted into the Union, they insisted that they retain the right to secede if they ever wished to do so in the future. As far as I know, no other state has that clause in their Constitution. That is why the Civil War was fought a few decades later on. *** I believe what he meant was that the Civil War was fought because the other states tried to secede without the legal right to do so. I'm pretty sure he wasn't claiming that the Civil War was fought over a clause in the Texas constitution. --DouvaI don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #67 February 12, 2004 No. They have WMD's. The US would invade. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base704 0 #68 February 12, 2004 Give it back to Mexico.You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #69 February 12, 2004 QuoteGive it back to Mexico. In a word - No. But, not just no, and you know the rest. Not until you give back the Carolinas to the Lumbee, Cherokee, Occhenichi, and all the others.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AirCav 0 #70 February 12, 2004 quote: Despite the fact that most Texans think the world and it's history revolve around them.... __________________________________________________ I used to tell my Texas friends when this conversation got out of hand...... . "If the Alamo had a back door, Texas wouldn't have a history" Boy did that got some blood boiling GW685,D3888,C5052,SCS843 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #71 February 12, 2004 QuoteI used to tell my Texas friends when this conversation got out of hand...... . "If the Alamo had a back door, Texas wouldn't have a history" Boy did that got some blood boiling nice!! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Antithesis 0 #72 February 12, 2004 Quote>I'm all for it, I think that it would be a good wake up call for the US. Yeah, and we need another good war. The other wars we're in right now have gotten a little, well, boring. But A-10's attacking Houston suburbs? That would be cool! Think of the live video. Yes, I doubt that it could be a peaceful secession. But , I honestly and unfortunately have to agree with Thomas Jefferson on this matter “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” ---Thomas Jefferson Texas probably has some manure to share I travel the land, Work in the ocean, Play in the sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiverRick 0 #73 February 12, 2004 QuoteGive it back to Mexico. Half of Mexico is already in Texas. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DShiznit 0 #74 February 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteGive it back to Mexico. Half of Mexico is already in Texas. Ain't that the truth... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Douva 0 #75 February 12, 2004 Quotequote: Despite the fact that most Texans think the world and it's history revolve around them.... __________________________________________________ I used to tell my Texas friends when this conversation got out of hand...... . "If the Alamo had a back door, Texas wouldn't have a history" Boy did that got some blood boiling That's one of those lines that sounds good but isn't really true. Another good example is the old Texas reply to anyone who points out that Alaska is now the largest state--"Just wait 'till all the ice melts." The truth is, the Alamo defenders had numerous opportunities to escape. There were wide gaps in the Mexican lines and plenty of natural terrain to use for cover, if they wanted to make it to safety. Instead they chose to stay and fight. Strategically speaking, they didn't accomplish anything by staying and dying, but it did make a nice battle cry for the battle of San Jacinto.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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riddler 0 #65 February 12, 2004 QuoteFrankenstein is one of my favorite books... And freely available on-line for all to read. http://www.online-literature.com/shelley_mary/frankenstein/Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #66 February 12, 2004 QuoteQuote I don't think John Rich's comments in any way insinuated that Texas was the cause of the Civil War or a major contributor to the Civil War. Sorry then. I misunderstood what he meant. *** And when they (Texas) were adopted into the Union, they insisted that they retain the right to secede if they ever wished to do so in the future. As far as I know, no other state has that clause in their Constitution. That is why the Civil War was fought a few decades later on. *** I believe what he meant was that the Civil War was fought because the other states tried to secede without the legal right to do so. I'm pretty sure he wasn't claiming that the Civil War was fought over a clause in the Texas constitution. --DouvaI don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #67 February 12, 2004 No. They have WMD's. The US would invade. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base704 0 #68 February 12, 2004 Give it back to Mexico.You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #69 February 12, 2004 QuoteGive it back to Mexico. In a word - No. But, not just no, and you know the rest. Not until you give back the Carolinas to the Lumbee, Cherokee, Occhenichi, and all the others.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirCav 0 #70 February 12, 2004 quote: Despite the fact that most Texans think the world and it's history revolve around them.... __________________________________________________ I used to tell my Texas friends when this conversation got out of hand...... . "If the Alamo had a back door, Texas wouldn't have a history" Boy did that got some blood boiling GW685,D3888,C5052,SCS843 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #71 February 12, 2004 QuoteI used to tell my Texas friends when this conversation got out of hand...... . "If the Alamo had a back door, Texas wouldn't have a history" Boy did that got some blood boiling nice!! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antithesis 0 #72 February 12, 2004 Quote>I'm all for it, I think that it would be a good wake up call for the US. Yeah, and we need another good war. The other wars we're in right now have gotten a little, well, boring. But A-10's attacking Houston suburbs? That would be cool! Think of the live video. Yes, I doubt that it could be a peaceful secession. But , I honestly and unfortunately have to agree with Thomas Jefferson on this matter “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” ---Thomas Jefferson Texas probably has some manure to share I travel the land, Work in the ocean, Play in the sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #73 February 12, 2004 QuoteGive it back to Mexico. Half of Mexico is already in Texas. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #74 February 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteGive it back to Mexico. Half of Mexico is already in Texas. Ain't that the truth... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #75 February 12, 2004 Quotequote: Despite the fact that most Texans think the world and it's history revolve around them.... __________________________________________________ I used to tell my Texas friends when this conversation got out of hand...... . "If the Alamo had a back door, Texas wouldn't have a history" Boy did that got some blood boiling That's one of those lines that sounds good but isn't really true. Another good example is the old Texas reply to anyone who points out that Alaska is now the largest state--"Just wait 'till all the ice melts." The truth is, the Alamo defenders had numerous opportunities to escape. There were wide gaps in the Mexican lines and plenty of natural terrain to use for cover, if they wanted to make it to safety. Instead they chose to stay and fight. Strategically speaking, they didn't accomplish anything by staying and dying, but it did make a nice battle cry for the battle of San Jacinto.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
