RoysPlayThing 0 #26 October 5, 2004 QuoteNice logic, although, I think the part about talking to hot women is false, at least for a lot of us. You girls are pretty intimidating, particularly the ones we find attractive. If there is not attraction, then is it just chatting. But if I see a girl that I think has some quality I am intrigued by, then I get shy. Breaking the ice can be the hardest part. What you say here is very true for the guys, I know first hand... It is also true for women, but usually a hot guy is not so attractive if he knows it too much, so to speak._______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #27 October 5, 2004 QuoteI have found that women of that stature, famous or semi famous models, tend to be to stuck up for my likeing. I used to date a girl who was into modeling and was in a few adds, well she change into someone i didnt like after that. So is what you see in that thread a standard for me? no. I tend to be attracted to many diffrnt types of wpmen. I told one reciently who kept making comments about her chest, or lake there of, I told her that its not what you have, its who you are that matters. My look on life, be happy being you and with who you are, if people dont like you, fuk em. on the other hand - if a tree had a knot hole you could reach . . .. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #28 October 5, 2004 Actually I think Men in General have pretty low standards. It is Women who put much more emphasis on physical appearance. If a Woman is wearing something revealing, Men will generally notice and possibly gawk while other women will comment on how she should not be wearing that because it makes her Hips look big or some such nonsense. When it comes too things like “Do these shoes match this out fit?” I don’t know a guy who has ever said "My, Those shoes work so well with ensemble" however this seems to very important for some of the women I have known. Men don’t care about these petty details. If you are in reasonably good shape and neatly dressed, Some Men will find you attractive. I don’t think that guys are anywhere as likely to notice minor imperfections on a Woman as other women. I don’t know how many times I have been out female friends and commented on some hot girl walking by only to be informed by my female friends that she has fat calves or her ass was too big. Things that I never would have noticed. So No, I don’t think that Men (In general) are the ones who set these standards. Disclaimer: I have made several generalizations in this post and I am fully aware that there are many people (male and female) who are exceptions to these observations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zulu 0 #29 October 5, 2004 Mailin, I can't speak for the male population, but what I can tell you is for me I used to be one of those guys where the woman had to have an awesome figure. However I quickly found out, that internal beauty last longer than the outward appearance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #30 October 5, 2004 Windsor, thanks. Always a pleasure to read your posts. Guys usually have two standards. Miss Right and Miss Right Now. For MRN, guys can put up with a lot of crazy from an attractive woman for 2 or 3 hours. Most guys don't get enough attention, so they are willing to be flexible on some guidelines. My fav part of the LoveLine radio talk show (Dr. Drew and Adam) was when a girl started rambling. Adam said that guys will listen to attractive girls ramble for hours because they are sitting with her. On radio, no one cares, so get to the point. I try to let my date set the level of superficiality. It's amazing how it bothers people when you act like them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #31 October 5, 2004 Nice point on the shoes. I love it when a girl where cute hiking boots with like a long sundress, I think it looks cool; it seems to talk about the duality of her personality to my subconscience....or something freudian, I dont know. It have girls tell me regularly, you just can't wear them together. If you look good being you, I don't care what rules you broke.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #32 October 5, 2004 ANY woman can spend four hours with a make-up artist and look like a pin-up. I think men overall prefer real women to untouchable fantasies, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RastaRicanAir 0 #33 October 5, 2004 I'm afraid I have to DISAGREE with just about every response on this thread. Of course all of us guys hold ALL of our girls to this sort of standard! That's why EVERY GUY you know is currently in a committed, fulfilling and above all, intellectually stimulating relationship with a girl who looks like these! ...The preceding has been a test of the Irony Recognition System. The fact is I work in radio in a popular college town (represented in both Playboy and Girls Gone Wild). And after almost 10 years of interacting with Hooters girls, strippers, fitness chicks, bikini models, Playboy bunnies, nude internet models and even the occasional porn star, I could count the number of interesting personalities I've encountered on two hands and still type this just as fast. In fact, my research has determined that most women who have lived part of their lives as "eye candy" are either intolerably obnoxious, exhaustingly insecure, or so breathtakingly stupid that when they speak I start to mourn for the oxygen that's being wasted. ....Or ALL OF THE ABOVE. ......Or married to someone rich. (Except for the professional fitness chicks, who are usually smart and secure but just too f***ing perky to deal with before noon.) Of course it's nice to look at a "perfect" rack or "unbelievable" ass and fantasize that the woman carrying it has also somehow managed to develop a sparkling personality, above average intellect, decent taste in music, and an encyclopedic knowledge of either The Simpsons or the films of Martin Scorcese. But believe me when I say that the odds are highly against it. Fortunately for the babes who share our sport, I think most skydiver guys -despite our obvious penchant for "boys will be boys" behavior- are able to understand that. Should you need some more reality training, I recommend spending some time in a city full of thousands of girls whose breast implant scars heal before the ink is dry on their High School diplomas. It's actually quite sad.OrFunV/LocoBoca Rodriguez/Sonic Grieco/Muff Brother #4411 -"and ladies....messin with Robbie is venturing into territory you cant even imagine!-cuz Robbie is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #34 October 5, 2004 That might just be the definitive answer. Wow.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #35 October 5, 2004 you know i'd have to disagree to a certain extent, but i would also have to say it depends on when in life they 'developed'. The women who went through youth being told how beautiful they were by any and every one tend to be the shallow, flaky types... those who 'blossomed' later have a better self worth, are more motivated and seem to be more intelligent over all, perhaps because they had to use their minds to get somewhere instead of having every male falling all over himself to give them everything... I know several women who i consider stunning.. easily super model quality (whatever that means) all have said they thought they were 'ugly ducklings' and didnt have many dates in school, but that perhaps that experience helped them to learn to rely on themselves for self worth, not on what other people told them they were ‘worth’ Is physical 'perfection' a standard? no. of course not, but it is a goal everyone should work towards. To many people simply give up, say “I don’t want to be judged by how I look”.. tough shit.. appearance is the first thing you project not matter who you are or what you do.. thousands of people will see you that will never speak to you, never know anything more about you than how you appeared that moment.. it’s a cop out to say it doesn’t matter.... but that certainly doesn’t mean you have to be paint and polish everyday..in fact more of that simply covers up how little people really care for themselves… how beautiful you are is very dependant on how beautiful you think you are, how you carry yourself and how you act towards others... there is far more to beauty than a pretty face or a flat stomach...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edwinsneller 0 #36 October 5, 2004 You said it. The prettiest women are the ones who are comfortable with their own bodies and who they are as a person. Fake can never be a complete substitute for anything real.--- Some days it's not even worth the effort to chew through the restraints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cava 0 #37 October 5, 2004 A young lady at the Moab boogie this weekend had on a shirt that was an amusing spin on some of the stereotypical female behavior brought up in this thread. Some of you have probably seen it already. It said "Does this canopy make my ass look fast?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #38 October 5, 2004 hey Jen- I just wanted to say that I know men are very visual creatures, and that's okay, but honestly beauty fades. Sure we all want someone who is attractive to find us attractive, and we all have different opinions of what that typifies, but people get old, body parts start shifting and falling off, wrinkles develop, and then YOU DIE!!!! Nobody's beauty lasts forever, but character, personality and friendliness can last a lifetime. If any guy turns down getting to know someone just because she doesn't look like a playbody bunny, than obviously that's probably not the kind of guy most girls would want anyway. I would much rather be with someone who loved the way I looked on the outside and the inside, with imperfections and all, cuz he aint perfect either! If I get married to some fitness-loving guy who develops a pot belly, what am I gonna do, divorce him because he didn't hold his part of the bargain?Bottom line: everybody likes different types of people, but remember lots of em "wear their face that they keep in a jar by the door." You can be beautiful and attractive on the outside, but how many people do you know who are TRULY beautiful,magnificent beings on the inside??? Sarah oh that reminds me, I gotta go check out this hot,tall skydiverguy w/ facial hair! Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #39 October 5, 2004 Today, on the first page of MSN.com is a pic of Brad Pitt. Women think he is smiling, charming, rich, and handsome. Less than one in every 100,000 has met him, but lots of them still get all wound up over him. Apparently, women like to look at pics and dream. Hopefully this isn't some kind of standard... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #40 October 5, 2004 Brad Pitt? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Actually, he's not that bad, but he's blonde, which means he can't have too much testosterone! oooooh, someone's gonna kick my butt for that one! Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #41 October 5, 2004 QuoteBrad Pitt? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Actually, he's not that bad, but he's blonde, which means he can't have too much testosterone! oooooh, someone's gonna kick my butt for that one! I've never understood why gals like the short, skinny guys. However, I'm a guy, I don't need to figure it out. Besides, most women will never go out with BP, but a lucky few could meet me if they play their cards right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #42 October 5, 2004 Hell no it's not. I think my girl is beautiful, and I prefer her be just the way she is, without any "enhancements" (ie. makeup, etc.). She's very pleasing to look at, and she has one hell of a brain behind all of it. That's what impresses me, not how tight her jeans are or whether she wears 3 inches of makeup or not. Some girls just focus too much on trying to be Britney Spears, and that makes me sick. It's being confident in who you are that is attractive, not being confident in what everyone else thinks you should be. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #43 October 5, 2004 QuoteConsidering more than a quarter of a million U.S. women and teenage girls get breast implants each year, I'm wondering if women are actually held to that standard ...by women. Bingo! Pretty sad watching the plastic surgery programs where mothers/fathers get their daughters surgery as an 18th b-day present. It's also sad when you see beautiful 20~ yo girls go in looking very nice and leave looking like a poster of Pam Anderson because she's their idol! It's magazines, tv, and the general population of plastic women that make this the standard. Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #44 October 5, 2004 Quote"eye candy" are either intolerably obnoxious, exhaustingly insecure, or so breathtakingly stupid that when they speak I start to mourn for the oxygen that's being wasted. Quotethe professional fitness chicks, who are usually smart and secure but just too f***ing perky to deal with before noon. QuoteShould you need some more reality training, I recommend spending some time in a city full of thousands of girls whose breast implant scars heal before the ink is dry on their High School diplomas. Genius. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinghonu 0 #45 October 5, 2004 Quote It's magazines, tv, and the general population of plastic women that make this the standard. Angela. Maybe so but some group of people somewhere are buying into this sh*t and furthering the idea that we must have absolutely perfectly shaped double D breats atop our 21 inch waist that sits on our 5 feet long legs (which better not have any damn stubble on them too). I think women bought into this notion that this is what men REALLY want because those are the images we see in the magazines, on the internet, etc. And now it has resulted in an all out competition between women as to who is the hottest, sexiest, most desirable by men; hence, breast implants, butt implants, hair weaves, fake nails, liposuction, etc, etc. SCREW THAT! Personally, after reading and looking at everything on the "I love boobies" thread, its no damn wonder women think men are lying when they say that they want a REAL woman and these other women are just nice "eye candy." Where is the "I love REAL boobies" thread? Huh? "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #46 October 5, 2004 Quoteits not damn wonder women think men are lying We are. All men are liars. It gives all men hope knowing that women will go out with out-of-shape, homely guys because they aren't as superficial as the evil men. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #47 October 5, 2004 The people buying into it are the crew sitting at home watching tv right now, I would bet it does not include most skydivers. You want to ask some questions, ask them of the mothers that encourage 14 year old 'mini-mes'. As them of the teachers that feel elementray kids should be treated in all ways like adults. I will heavily agree with you that there is a serious underlying problem: selling sex to everyone on the planet and the being surprised that someone under 18 bought it. However, I really doubt, a few skydivers joking about breasts and the perfection there in created that culture. This is no different than girls looking at unattainable guys. Now perhaps what you idolize in them is different, but that is a difference of the sexes. Am I supposed to generalize that all women are liars because they say they want an intellectual guy and then drool over Vin Deisel? Human nature wants what it does not have. If you are in a relationship with an strictly intellectual guy, the bad boy type might cross your mind occasionally. Not because of any inherent value, but simply the attraction of the unknown or unattainable. I tried to articulate that earlier, that the fact that we will never know more about these girls then their physical feature makes it a safe attraction. We will never get feedback from a physical image, which is what both makes them a eye candy, and a real woman desirable. I don't see how that is a lie. Editted to add: re the real boobies thread: It is a side effect of said culture that most women who feel led to make a living showing flesh have implants these days. This is unfortunate, as people have grown this "They are big, the must be fake" attitude. I know from personal dating, that is absolutely false. SO....if I had a lot of 'real' breast pics I would post them. Actually I am sure that at least some of those posted were. But...it is simple supply and demand that the internet has brought me 'fake' boobs. If you can find a lot of 'real' women with 'real' breasts who want to share them, I am sure would be every bit as happy looking at them.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #48 October 5, 2004 QuoteThis is no different than girls looking at unattainable guys. There are unattainable guys? j/k -A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #49 October 5, 2004 Well you make a good point, I would say my perception is that there are a lot less, we seem to give in pretty quick to a nice smile and a soft word.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
girlygirl 0 #50 October 5, 2004 Where is the "I love REAL boobies" thread? Huh?*** must agree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
