chuckakers 369 #26 February 9, 2013 QuoteQuote...A true downplane is travelling at 80 mph straight into the ground. Really?Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjumpenfool 2 #27 February 9, 2013 Quote Quote As stated up thread, get some CRW experience!!! it's funny you reply that to Topdocker No shit! Obviously not directed at him. Just good advice to anyone looking to become a well rounded skydiver. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CReW 0 #28 February 10, 2013 Topdock can always use a little CRW experience! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites topdocker 0 #29 February 11, 2013 Quote Topdock can always use a little CRW experience! Geez! Ya take a couple days off to go to a volleyball tourney, and you get called out for not having enough experience!It has been a couple of months, maybe I'm a little rusty. Anybody out there wanna try some CRW? topJump more, post less! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites f2t323 0 #30 February 12, 2013 This is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GobbleGobble 0 #31 February 13, 2013 QuoteThis is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 CRW chutes have SIGNIFICANTLY different recovery arc characteristics than sport mains and reserves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjumpenfool 2 #32 February 13, 2013 Quote Quote This is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 CRW chutes have SIGNIFICANTLY different recovery arc characteristics than sport mains and reserves. ...And, my guess would be, they'd be flying at the ground much faster in a downplane config. Even more reason to chop the main. Think of it this way, if you don't chop the main in a downplane, there will be NO recovery arc??? Ouch!Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GobbleGobble 0 #33 February 13, 2013 Quote Quote Quote This is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 CRW chutes have SIGNIFICANTLY different recovery arc characteristics than sport mains and reserves. ...And, my guess would be, they'd be flying at the ground much faster in a downplane config. Even more reason to chop the main. Think of it this way, if you don't chop the main in a downplane, there will be NO recovery arc??? Ouch! Well, probably. Less drag theoretically. Oh for sure. I just didn't want someone to look at that video and think that a sport canopy would recover like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #34 February 14, 2013 QuoteOh for sure. I just didn't want someone to look at that video and think that a sport canopy would recover like that. If you chop the main in a two out (which is the only one you CAN chop on most rigs), you'll be under the reserve (obviously). Most reserves fly very much like CRW canopies and should have short recovery arcs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GobbleGobble 0 #35 February 14, 2013 QuoteQuoteOh for sure. I just didn't want someone to look at that video and think that a sport canopy would recover like that. If you chop the main in a two out (which is the only one you CAN chop on most rigs), you'll be under the reserve (obviously). Most reserves fly very much like CRW canopies and should have short recovery arcs. I doubt short enough to chop that low and not hit damn close to belly to earth. Which was really all I was getting at. Yes, reserves aren't trimmed as steep as a main. No, they aren't trimmed as flat as a CRW canopy. Happy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #36 February 14, 2013 Quote Yes, reserves aren't trimmed as steep as a main. No, they aren't trimmed as flat as a CRW canopy. Happy? Sure. I really don't know, except that rectangular 7cell reserve should have a much shorter recovery arc than a 9 cell ZP elliptical. I've done a fair amount of crw but just with typical 7 cell mains, not specialty canopies. They seemed to recover very quickly from intentional down planes. That's just my own experience, though. YMMV, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Quagmirian 40 #37 February 14, 2013 QuoteYes, reserves aren't trimmed as steep as a main.Isn't it normally the other way around? 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skyjumpenfool 2 #27 February 9, 2013 Quote Quote As stated up thread, get some CRW experience!!! it's funny you reply that to Topdocker No shit! Obviously not directed at him. Just good advice to anyone looking to become a well rounded skydiver. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CReW 0 #28 February 10, 2013 Topdock can always use a little CRW experience! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topdocker 0 #29 February 11, 2013 Quote Topdock can always use a little CRW experience! Geez! Ya take a couple days off to go to a volleyball tourney, and you get called out for not having enough experience!It has been a couple of months, maybe I'm a little rusty. Anybody out there wanna try some CRW? topJump more, post less! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f2t323 0 #30 February 12, 2013 This is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleGobble 0 #31 February 13, 2013 QuoteThis is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 CRW chutes have SIGNIFICANTLY different recovery arc characteristics than sport mains and reserves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #32 February 13, 2013 Quote Quote This is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 CRW chutes have SIGNIFICANTLY different recovery arc characteristics than sport mains and reserves. ...And, my guess would be, they'd be flying at the ground much faster in a downplane config. Even more reason to chop the main. Think of it this way, if you don't chop the main in a downplane, there will be NO recovery arc??? Ouch!Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleGobble 0 #33 February 13, 2013 Quote Quote Quote This is not a two out situation ,but when you think of the wing loading ....anyway food for tought . heres the video of the skyhawks taking it very low and even turning before seperation . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlqRf_56Y0 CRW chutes have SIGNIFICANTLY different recovery arc characteristics than sport mains and reserves. ...And, my guess would be, they'd be flying at the ground much faster in a downplane config. Even more reason to chop the main. Think of it this way, if you don't chop the main in a downplane, there will be NO recovery arc??? Ouch! Well, probably. Less drag theoretically. Oh for sure. I just didn't want someone to look at that video and think that a sport canopy would recover like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #34 February 14, 2013 QuoteOh for sure. I just didn't want someone to look at that video and think that a sport canopy would recover like that. If you chop the main in a two out (which is the only one you CAN chop on most rigs), you'll be under the reserve (obviously). Most reserves fly very much like CRW canopies and should have short recovery arcs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleGobble 0 #35 February 14, 2013 QuoteQuoteOh for sure. I just didn't want someone to look at that video and think that a sport canopy would recover like that. If you chop the main in a two out (which is the only one you CAN chop on most rigs), you'll be under the reserve (obviously). Most reserves fly very much like CRW canopies and should have short recovery arcs. I doubt short enough to chop that low and not hit damn close to belly to earth. Which was really all I was getting at. Yes, reserves aren't trimmed as steep as a main. No, they aren't trimmed as flat as a CRW canopy. Happy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #36 February 14, 2013 Quote Yes, reserves aren't trimmed as steep as a main. No, they aren't trimmed as flat as a CRW canopy. Happy? Sure. I really don't know, except that rectangular 7cell reserve should have a much shorter recovery arc than a 9 cell ZP elliptical. I've done a fair amount of crw but just with typical 7 cell mains, not specialty canopies. They seemed to recover very quickly from intentional down planes. That's just my own experience, though. YMMV, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quagmirian 40 #37 February 14, 2013 QuoteYes, reserves aren't trimmed as steep as a main.Isn't it normally the other way around? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 0 #38 May 12, 2015 I've just figured another incentive to NOT cutaway a downplane - suicide Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites