cvfd1399 0 #1 January 21, 2005 If I find(ha) the person that wrote the AXEL.dav worm, virus what ever the hell it is I am going to take a pair of pliers and rip every piece of skin off your worthless body, piss on it, and light you on fire you low life piece of SH$T!!!! I had a fully up to date computer, norton internet security 2004 and adaware updated daily and ran every 2-3 days, I never open any thing, and I still got FU@KED!!! I only have gateway restore disks, and just dont feel like fixing computers anymore. /RANT!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #2 January 21, 2005 Oh man, when are these people going to use their power for good? I'll hold them down for you.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #3 January 21, 2005 One word my friend: BACKUP.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #4 January 21, 2005 Get another hard drive and install the OS on it. After it's all updated and have the proper virus protection, put the old hard drive on as a slave. Scan it to remove the virus. You won't lose any of your data because it's on the old drive, you can keep it there, or copy over to the new drive. Good luck. I deal with Virus and Spyware on a daily basis.... It's what I'd call job security.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 January 21, 2005 Suppose you bought a new house, which was promptly infested by squirrels. Would you blame the squirrels, or would you blame the builder who left gaps under the eaves of the roof which enabled the squirrels to get in?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 January 21, 2005 Quote Suppose you bought a new house, which was promptly infested by squirrels. Would you blame the squirrels, or would you blame the builder who left gaps under the eaves of the roof which enabled the squirrels to get in? What if every time you closed up some more gaps, the squirrels were given better tools and more powerful tools to get into the roof? Hookit has the answer, its a simple and easy way to square away your system and not loose all your data.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #7 January 21, 2005 I have the windows restore disk. The operating system restore was on and 5 dvd's worth of backup., and the whole hard drive was copied to a external drive. I think I did everything I could. It does no good none of them will work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #8 January 21, 2005 will this work even if it is a labtop. I am not sure on how to do a slave on a labotp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #9 January 21, 2005 Robert, that is not even a good analogy. The general public, myself included, take all precautions that are available to protect our computers. I spend all kinds of money on spyware programs and virus protection. Then these assholes come along and write some kind of program with the intent of destroying some one's computer. Squirrels don't go out on purpose to destroy my home.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #10 January 21, 2005 Quotewill this work even if it is a labtop. I am not sure on how to do a slave on a labotp.ah.. well, no. However if you have a regulare ol desktop you can slave it to that using one of these ==>2.5-Inch to 3.5-Inch Notebook Drive Adapter There are a few versions of these and can be made to run over USB as well. If I have time later I'll see if I can find what I'm talking about and post back.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #11 January 21, 2005 QuoteOne word my friend: BACKUP. No, three: Backup, Backup, Backup.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 January 21, 2005 QuoteRobert, that is not even a good analogy. The general public, myself included, take all precautions that are available to protect our computers. I spend all kinds of money on spyware programs and virus protection. Then these assholes come along and write some kind of program with the intent of destroying some one's computer. Squirrels don't go out on purpose to destroy my home. You are missing the point. Virus writers are a part of the environment, just like rodents and termites. Poorly designed software will always be exploited by them. I have been on the Internet since 1986. I have never purchased or used anti-spyware or virus protection. I have never had a virus or spyware/adware on my system. But I also don't use Microsoft products. ("the builder" = Microsoft)."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDaemon 0 #13 January 21, 2005 *nix is your friend ;-)find / -name jumpers -print; cat jumpers $USER > manifest; cd /dev/airplane; more altitude; make jump; cd /pub; more beer; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 January 21, 2005 You know, I own the devil book, studied it too, but its been a few years since I messed with BSD so I'm rusty as shit.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #15 January 21, 2005 But virus writers want to seek out and destroy, cause headache and heartache for their fellow man. They do it out of being evil. Rodents and termites are just doing what comes natural to them. They are trying to make a home, and sometimes in the process they destroy our home. Let's remember, we built our house where they were first and destroyed their environment because we are selfish humans and wanted that area. We misplace them, the virus writers misplace us.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 1 #16 January 21, 2005 QuoteYou are missing the point. Virus writers are a part of the environment I don't think he missed the point at all. The ring pieces who write the viruses are malicious twerps who deserve to be dealt with harshly. Squirels (furry rats) are only doing what squirells do in the struggle to live. You should hang your head in shame for trying to lower the noble squirel to the subterranian level of the evil virus writer.Watch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 January 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou are missing the point. Virus writers are a part of the environment I don't think he missed the point at all. The ring pieces who write the viruses are malicious twerps who deserve to be dealt with harshly. Squirels (furry rats) are only doing what squirells do in the struggle to live. You should hang your head in shame for trying to lower the noble squirel to the subterranian level of the evil virus writer. Well you can fuss and fume over virus writers, which you can do nothing about, or you can do something about it: switch. I have better things to do than waste my valuable time and money dealing with viruses/adware/spyware. Incidently, I like squirrels, but if you've ever talked to a homeowner who has had to pay to have his attic completly rewired, you learn there is a whole 'nother point-of-view."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #18 January 21, 2005 I'm a *nix user but I also use Winblows. *nix is not the answer for the general user. Until Redhat and the other linux companies can make a more user friendly UI then it's going to be windows for the "Walmart PC" Yes Xwindows is awesome IF you have some knowledge of the nix system. This is the caveat of the PC world. Virus writers like to attack the establishment. Use something other then that, you're normally safe... Most of the "virii" that are have had a major impact on the net in the past 2 years have come from east asian countries. Namely; China, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Korea. Not bashing these countries or their cultures. Just a simple fact. To combat virii, adware, malware and the like.. Educate youself in the ways of the internet. Scan ALL files even if you know who you got it from. Do not trust anyone. It is the wild west and you are unarmed. Instead of guns and ammo this new frontier uses knowledge and 0's 1's. Know what you are doing and always ask yourself.. "How will this file or setting effect the awesomeness of this ubah great computer I've configured?" Only other answer I can give or relate to you is.. Wow, you got fucked Learn from your mistakes. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #19 January 21, 2005 QuoteI'm a *nix user but I also use Winblows. *nix is not the answer for the general user. Until Redhat and the other linux companies can make a more user friendly UI then it's going to be windows for the "Walmart PC" Yes Xwindows is awesome IF you have some knowledge of the nix system. This is the caveat of the PC world. Virus writers like to attack the establishment. Use something other then that, you're normally safe... Most of the "virii" that are have had a major impact on the net in the past 2 years have come from east asian countries. Namely; China, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Korea. Not bashing these countries or their cultures. Just a simple fact. To combat virii, adware, malware and the like.. Educate youself in the ways of the internet. Scan ALL files even if you know who you got it from. Do not trust anyone. It is the wild west and you are unarmed. Instead of guns and ammo this new frontier uses knowledge and 0's 1's. Know what you are doing and always ask yourself.. "How will this file or setting effect the awesomeness of this ubah great computer I've configured?" Only other answer I can give or relate to you is.. Wow, you got fucked Learn from your mistakes. So *nix isn't for the general user??? Tell that to all the Mac OS X users."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #20 January 21, 2005 Give me a fucking break ryoder.. Apple is about as popular in the real world as *nix. We are talking "Walmart PCs" not gamers or programers. Granted Apple has made HUGE new customers with it's iPod. It's a very very slick marketing campaigne by Jobs himself. Introducce the public to our awesome mp3 player. They'll love it.. Look into other things Apple makes. Discover the cheap $499 MiniMac etc.. etc.. etc.. The average user is not a *nix user and until *nix gets mainstream support and business software it will always be a server, dbase and webhost software. It will never be the prefered OS for home use and business use. Agrue all you like, you know I'm right and I'm not even a m$ supporter, I just have to use it because I like to pay bills and I'm lazy. Plus I love to game, most mainstream games don't port to *nix because of it's fringe use as a OS on game systems. No market, no support.. would cost game companies more money to try and port/support a client for the games then it cost them to develope them. They port a *nix server because it's easier to serve the game then support the clients. touche` "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 January 21, 2005 QuoteGive me a fucking break ryoder.. Apple is about as popular in the real world as *nix. We are talking "Walmart PCs" not gamers or programers. Well in the circles I travel I know a LOT of people who work with Unix, and use Mac OS X at home. I use Solaris/SPARC on my job and use Mac OS X in the evenings for casual web-browsing because it is easier to find multimedia apps for the Mac. I also run Linux/{Free,Net,Open}BSD for research/hobby purposes. When traveling, I carry a Mac iBook. If you have used Mac OS X, you realize you don't need to know anything about Unix to use it. It *IS* Unix for the masses."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #22 January 21, 2005 Quote So *nix isn't for the general user??? Tell that to all the Mac OS X users. Wouldn't be too hard to do ... since there are only about ten of them ************************************ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #23 January 21, 2005 QuoteQuote So *nix isn't for the general user??? Tell that to all the Mac OS X users. Wouldn't be too hard to do ... since there are only about ten of them ************************************ Yeah, Ferrari owners are pretty rare too; That must be a pretty lousy car."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #24 January 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteGive me a fucking break ryoder.. Apple is about as popular in the real world as *nix. We are talking "Walmart PCs" not gamers or programers. Well in the circles I travel I know a LOT of people who work with Unix, and use Mac OS X at home. I use Solaris/SPARC on my job and use Mac OS X in the evenings for casual web-browsing because it is easier to find multimedia apps for the Mac. I also run Linux/{Free,Net,Open}BSD for research/hobby purposes. When traveling, I carry a Mac iBook. If you have used Mac OS X, you realize you don't need to know anything about Unix to use it. It *IS* Unix for the masses. Ryoder.. ok.. I love what your saying, really I do. The OSes and the things they can do and save people are awesome. But, lemme use an anology: You are the minority, you are like a black man in the south in the middle 40's. You are not mainstream nor do you get support from "The Man" Not until the mainstream user get's education to the computer and figure out they don't "need" that widget program that runs in the background, they never knew about.. That does that memory hogging port opening application, just incase I decided to sort my sock drawer. But, let's leave it in memory on the slight case I might want to move my socks around some day in the future... "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #25 January 21, 2005 QuoteGive me a fucking break ryoder.. Apple is about as popular in the real world as *nix. We are talking "Walmart PCs" not gamers or programers. Relax people. It's not a war here. BTW, WallyWorld has struck a deal to sell Linspire based machines so they are becoming a little more mainstream. Not sure what their sales figures are though...----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites