Michele 1 #26 January 5, 2005 QuoteFYI - I believe you should legally be allowed to see this letter if it was used to help remove you from your job. Actually, I think CBS is right. And you can bring it to a lawyer, who may be able to see that damages are recovered, and that this can't follow you. Sometimes, using the law when you've been intentionally damaged is the way to go, even if it means suing another skydiver. I can't think of a post you made that would be problematic for your clients though...or your work. I don't even know who you work for, and I've been around a while. And I echo the sentiments....whomever did this is not to be trusted, either in the air or on the ground. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towjumpr 0 #27 January 5, 2005 QuoteSomeone on this site...I'm sure you can guess who It seem that you might already have an idea of who it might be. If you find out for sure who did this please let us all know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rower 0 #28 January 5, 2005 Holy Shite! I don't read the forums that much so I don't know you, but that is so appalling that I feel compelled to post and express my sympathy. Even if you're a total asshole I can't see doing that to someone. I wish you well in the search for your next job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingferret 0 #29 January 5, 2005 Yeah, but all kinds of loopholes, it will all depend on the Employee Policy. Typically, corporations over write them, and then don't enforce them. Then when they want to, it is in writing. My old place of employment, Penatrode, has a clause about all personal use on company computer hardware, etc. If they have such a clause, the letter is not the reason, they will claim, it just caused them to evaluate the usage.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #30 January 5, 2005 Oh. Didn't know that. However, if the contract was something like that, and there is a warning system in place (like there is most of the time, for a CYA thing...) then it would still be worth the investigation. Especially if some of those posts can be proved to have been made on his own time. At home, weekends, stuff like that. Which could strip the claim down to "unreasonable" and therefore demonstrate that it's simply a loophole use. Well, I still think there's the potential for a damned decent lawsuit...libel, slander, defamation, interference with livelihood. I dunno, but something. And I think it's a Federal thing to be able to view the contents of your personnel file. may have changed - it's been a long time since I worked in Corporate America - but it was that the last time I heard. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #31 January 5, 2005 QuoteYeah, but all kinds of loopholes, it will all depend on the Employee Policy. Typically, corporations over write them, and then don't enforce them. Then when they want to, it is in writing. My old place of employment, Penatrode, has a clause about all personal use on company computer hardware, etc. If they have such a clause, the letter is not the reason, they will claim, it just caused them to evaluate the usage. This goes beyond company SOP. At this point it goes into local and federal HR issues._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ladyskydiver 0 #32 January 5, 2005 WTF?!?!?! The individual that did that is a *#$&#*($&)(#&$)*(#$&!!!! I say you should out the S.O.B. and let the community deal with them. Good luck in your job search, PK. And to whomever did that, I now pray for Karma to get a hold of you with no mercy. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingferret 0 #33 January 5, 2005 Well I have no idea, I wish him the best with a lawsuit, and I am no lawyer. Was just commenting that under my experience, a company can mandate in the policy when you sign to become an employee that their equipment is to be used for no personal use. IN my last job, it was used as means for dismissal. Most people violated it and as long as you did not put a bullseye on, you were never measured by it.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #34 January 5, 2005 That sucks PhillyKev!! That person should be banned for life. QuoteSomeone on this site...I'm sure you can guess who no we cant, can you give us a hint? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChasingBlueSky 0 #35 January 6, 2005 QuoteWell I have no idea, I wish him the best with a lawsuit, and I am no lawyer. Was just commenting that under my experience, a company can mandate in the policy when you sign to become an employee that their equipment is to be used for no personal use. IN my last job, it was used as means for dismissal. Most people violated it and as long as you did not put a bullseye on, you were never measured by it. First off, if it was an "at will" job they can let him go for any reason. Internet usage and violating the fair use policy that most companies have is a top reason people can lose their jobs these days. Technically speaking, any post you make on company time is now their intellectual property. However, when the let him know about the letter, the scenario changed. Kev, you may want to get a lawyer just so this doesn't follow you to your next job. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mailin 0 #36 January 6, 2005 PK, This is seriously fucked up. I find it hard to believe someone can stoop that low, but lots and lots of fucked up stuff happens on this site... lots of good too, but the fucked up stuff (like this) can sometimes make the good look insignificant. I hope the person that did this gets what's coming to them. JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eeneR 1 #37 January 6, 2005 I'm as hell...WHAT THE FUCK is with people today....good grief.... Dude im so sorry this piece of shit did this to ya....and karma is a biatch it really is.....She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Avion 0 #38 January 6, 2005 Do you mean to say your company let you go for posting messeges here from company equipment durning company time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites boinky 0 #39 January 6, 2005 Damn man....I'm so sorry. I've only recently come to this forum, but I am just shocked that someone would do something that low down. Of course, I am overly naive and think that everyone is basically a good person. Sigh....once again, that belief has been shot full of holes. Were they out for your job or did they have a personal issue with you? No matter....that was just SO wrong! I won't feed you the typical line about it being better in the long run. I DO wish you bushelfulls of luck for finding a better position. Obviously your place of employment was pretty narrowminded to take that persons claims without bringing you in on the discussion. For that, the person seems to have done you a favor. What if you had ever needed your job to stand up for you down the road? It seems they wouldn't have been there for you. Good luck and blue skies, NinaNina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kbordson 8 #40 January 6, 2005 Hey Kev, Don't really know much about you or where you might work, or even the person who would have done this to you... but whatever the reasons, he/she needs to really come to terms with why they would want to screw with another life so badly. It's one thing if they're mad cuz of some slamming on the internet or an imagined insult ... seen a few personal attacks/feelings hurt/stuff like that, but that's all sticks and stones. Orchestrating events so that someone looses their job... that is truly messed up. I know it's of little comfort right now... but karma does even it out. and I hope you're next job gives you a bit raise, and a secretary with big tits (or something like that that guys would appreciate) Anyway... just wanted to send you some support. Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stacy 0 #41 January 6, 2005 That sucks kevin. what a bastard! What fool would try to oust some one from a job taht allows beer drinking and big screens during the day??!! I'd beg to get hired there, not kill contacts! Idiot! My old job is opening up if you like low pay, 24/7 on call, and a southern belle boss who doesn't even know your name... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Avion 0 #42 January 6, 2005 I just have to say, sometimes fate will have it, that it's a good day to get fired. I should know, I've been fired several times I'm getting better at at each time. It allows you the freedom to tell your boss what you really think of them without fear of loosing you job Try to look at the future, sometimes I've ended up with better jobs, and if that happens, then the smuck that blew the whistle on you, actually ends up doing you a favor. You know your living life to the full, when you get fired occasionally. Best regards, and keep smiling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #43 January 6, 2005 That's just plain wrong. Sounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. If you know who it is. Sorry to hear that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #44 January 6, 2005 Quote WTF?!?!?! The individual that did that is a *#$&#*($&)(#&$)*(#$&!!!! I say you should out the S.O.B. and let the community deal with them. Good luck in your job search, PK. And to whomever did that, I now pray for Karma to get a hold of you with no mercy. Quote Me 2 ~!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #45 January 6, 2005 QuoteSounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. Hooyah to that. I may not have agreed with much of what PK posted but for someone to rat him out like that is just wrong. Definitly not cool. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GiaKrembs 0 #46 January 6, 2005 [shakes head in amazement] [shakes head in disgust!] WOW, I can't believe someone would do this.... don't know you all that well, but can't imagine that anything you've done or said validates this type of behavior!!! This person needs to get a serious life!!!! AAAARRRRRGGGGG Some peoples children! My best wishes to you PK - Good luck!!! Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 January 6, 2005 PK - that IS some seriously jacked up shit. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #48 January 6, 2005 QuoteWOW, I can't believe someone would do this.... don't know you all that well, but can't imagine that anything you've done or said validates this type of behavior!!! I don't think there's anything I know of which comes out here that would warrant attacking someone to the extent they lose their job. Whomever did this has no sense or morality, integrity, or honor. And while I know some people like that, it still is a bit of a shock to see them take that action. And no, I don't know who it is. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #49 January 6, 2005 QuoteQuoteSounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. Hooyah to that. I may not have agreed with much of what PK posted but for someone to rat him out like that is just wrong. Definitly not cool. If you still want to know about the restaurants where I live and ask about my co-workers, I still have the PMs you sent me last week. I'll have my lawyer pass the info along to you. What's that behind you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sunshine 2 #50 January 6, 2005 Umm.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 2 of 13 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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rower 0 #28 January 5, 2005 Holy Shite! I don't read the forums that much so I don't know you, but that is so appalling that I feel compelled to post and express my sympathy. Even if you're a total asshole I can't see doing that to someone. I wish you well in the search for your next job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #29 January 5, 2005 Yeah, but all kinds of loopholes, it will all depend on the Employee Policy. Typically, corporations over write them, and then don't enforce them. Then when they want to, it is in writing. My old place of employment, Penatrode, has a clause about all personal use on company computer hardware, etc. If they have such a clause, the letter is not the reason, they will claim, it just caused them to evaluate the usage.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #30 January 5, 2005 Oh. Didn't know that. However, if the contract was something like that, and there is a warning system in place (like there is most of the time, for a CYA thing...) then it would still be worth the investigation. Especially if some of those posts can be proved to have been made on his own time. At home, weekends, stuff like that. Which could strip the claim down to "unreasonable" and therefore demonstrate that it's simply a loophole use. Well, I still think there's the potential for a damned decent lawsuit...libel, slander, defamation, interference with livelihood. I dunno, but something. And I think it's a Federal thing to be able to view the contents of your personnel file. may have changed - it's been a long time since I worked in Corporate America - but it was that the last time I heard. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #31 January 5, 2005 QuoteYeah, but all kinds of loopholes, it will all depend on the Employee Policy. Typically, corporations over write them, and then don't enforce them. Then when they want to, it is in writing. My old place of employment, Penatrode, has a clause about all personal use on company computer hardware, etc. If they have such a clause, the letter is not the reason, they will claim, it just caused them to evaluate the usage. This goes beyond company SOP. At this point it goes into local and federal HR issues._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #32 January 5, 2005 WTF?!?!?! The individual that did that is a *#$&#*($&)(#&$)*(#$&!!!! I say you should out the S.O.B. and let the community deal with them. Good luck in your job search, PK. And to whomever did that, I now pray for Karma to get a hold of you with no mercy. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #33 January 5, 2005 Well I have no idea, I wish him the best with a lawsuit, and I am no lawyer. Was just commenting that under my experience, a company can mandate in the policy when you sign to become an employee that their equipment is to be used for no personal use. IN my last job, it was used as means for dismissal. Most people violated it and as long as you did not put a bullseye on, you were never measured by it.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #34 January 5, 2005 That sucks PhillyKev!! That person should be banned for life. QuoteSomeone on this site...I'm sure you can guess who no we cant, can you give us a hint? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #35 January 6, 2005 QuoteWell I have no idea, I wish him the best with a lawsuit, and I am no lawyer. Was just commenting that under my experience, a company can mandate in the policy when you sign to become an employee that their equipment is to be used for no personal use. IN my last job, it was used as means for dismissal. Most people violated it and as long as you did not put a bullseye on, you were never measured by it. First off, if it was an "at will" job they can let him go for any reason. Internet usage and violating the fair use policy that most companies have is a top reason people can lose their jobs these days. Technically speaking, any post you make on company time is now their intellectual property. However, when the let him know about the letter, the scenario changed. Kev, you may want to get a lawyer just so this doesn't follow you to your next job. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #36 January 6, 2005 PK, This is seriously fucked up. I find it hard to believe someone can stoop that low, but lots and lots of fucked up stuff happens on this site... lots of good too, but the fucked up stuff (like this) can sometimes make the good look insignificant. I hope the person that did this gets what's coming to them. JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 1 #37 January 6, 2005 I'm as hell...WHAT THE FUCK is with people today....good grief.... Dude im so sorry this piece of shit did this to ya....and karma is a biatch it really is.....She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #38 January 6, 2005 Do you mean to say your company let you go for posting messeges here from company equipment durning company time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #39 January 6, 2005 Damn man....I'm so sorry. I've only recently come to this forum, but I am just shocked that someone would do something that low down. Of course, I am overly naive and think that everyone is basically a good person. Sigh....once again, that belief has been shot full of holes. Were they out for your job or did they have a personal issue with you? No matter....that was just SO wrong! I won't feed you the typical line about it being better in the long run. I DO wish you bushelfulls of luck for finding a better position. Obviously your place of employment was pretty narrowminded to take that persons claims without bringing you in on the discussion. For that, the person seems to have done you a favor. What if you had ever needed your job to stand up for you down the road? It seems they wouldn't have been there for you. Good luck and blue skies, NinaNina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #40 January 6, 2005 Hey Kev, Don't really know much about you or where you might work, or even the person who would have done this to you... but whatever the reasons, he/she needs to really come to terms with why they would want to screw with another life so badly. It's one thing if they're mad cuz of some slamming on the internet or an imagined insult ... seen a few personal attacks/feelings hurt/stuff like that, but that's all sticks and stones. Orchestrating events so that someone looses their job... that is truly messed up. I know it's of little comfort right now... but karma does even it out. and I hope you're next job gives you a bit raise, and a secretary with big tits (or something like that that guys would appreciate) Anyway... just wanted to send you some support. Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #41 January 6, 2005 That sucks kevin. what a bastard! What fool would try to oust some one from a job taht allows beer drinking and big screens during the day??!! I'd beg to get hired there, not kill contacts! Idiot! My old job is opening up if you like low pay, 24/7 on call, and a southern belle boss who doesn't even know your name... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #42 January 6, 2005 I just have to say, sometimes fate will have it, that it's a good day to get fired. I should know, I've been fired several times I'm getting better at at each time. It allows you the freedom to tell your boss what you really think of them without fear of loosing you job Try to look at the future, sometimes I've ended up with better jobs, and if that happens, then the smuck that blew the whistle on you, actually ends up doing you a favor. You know your living life to the full, when you get fired occasionally. Best regards, and keep smiling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #43 January 6, 2005 That's just plain wrong. Sounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. If you know who it is. Sorry to hear that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #44 January 6, 2005 Quote WTF?!?!?! The individual that did that is a *#$&#*($&)(#&$)*(#$&!!!! I say you should out the S.O.B. and let the community deal with them. Good luck in your job search, PK. And to whomever did that, I now pray for Karma to get a hold of you with no mercy. Quote Me 2 ~!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #45 January 6, 2005 QuoteSounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. Hooyah to that. I may not have agreed with much of what PK posted but for someone to rat him out like that is just wrong. Definitly not cool. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GiaKrembs 0 #46 January 6, 2005 [shakes head in amazement] [shakes head in disgust!] WOW, I can't believe someone would do this.... don't know you all that well, but can't imagine that anything you've done or said validates this type of behavior!!! This person needs to get a serious life!!!! AAAARRRRRGGGGG Some peoples children! My best wishes to you PK - Good luck!!! Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 January 6, 2005 PK - that IS some seriously jacked up shit. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #48 January 6, 2005 QuoteWOW, I can't believe someone would do this.... don't know you all that well, but can't imagine that anything you've done or said validates this type of behavior!!! I don't think there's anything I know of which comes out here that would warrant attacking someone to the extent they lose their job. Whomever did this has no sense or morality, integrity, or honor. And while I know some people like that, it still is a bit of a shock to see them take that action. And no, I don't know who it is. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #49 January 6, 2005 QuoteQuoteSounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. Hooyah to that. I may not have agreed with much of what PK posted but for someone to rat him out like that is just wrong. Definitly not cool. If you still want to know about the restaurants where I live and ask about my co-workers, I still have the PMs you sent me last week. I'll have my lawyer pass the info along to you. What's that behind you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sunshine 2 #50 January 6, 2005 Umm.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 2 of 13 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
pajarito 0 #43 January 6, 2005 That's just plain wrong. Sounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. If you know who it is. Sorry to hear that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #44 January 6, 2005 Quote WTF?!?!?! The individual that did that is a *#$&#*($&)(#&$)*(#$&!!!! I say you should out the S.O.B. and let the community deal with them. Good luck in your job search, PK. And to whomever did that, I now pray for Karma to get a hold of you with no mercy. Quote Me 2 ~!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #45 January 6, 2005 QuoteSounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. Hooyah to that. I may not have agreed with much of what PK posted but for someone to rat him out like that is just wrong. Definitly not cool. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiaKrembs 0 #46 January 6, 2005 [shakes head in amazement] [shakes head in disgust!] WOW, I can't believe someone would do this.... don't know you all that well, but can't imagine that anything you've done or said validates this type of behavior!!! This person needs to get a serious life!!!! AAAARRRRRGGGGG Some peoples children! My best wishes to you PK - Good luck!!! Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #47 January 6, 2005 PK - that IS some seriously jacked up shit. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #48 January 6, 2005 QuoteWOW, I can't believe someone would do this.... don't know you all that well, but can't imagine that anything you've done or said validates this type of behavior!!! I don't think there's anything I know of which comes out here that would warrant attacking someone to the extent they lose their job. Whomever did this has no sense or morality, integrity, or honor. And while I know some people like that, it still is a bit of a shock to see them take that action. And no, I don't know who it is. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #49 January 6, 2005 QuoteQuoteSounds like a good reason for a serious ass-whuppin to me. Hooyah to that. I may not have agreed with much of what PK posted but for someone to rat him out like that is just wrong. Definitly not cool. If you still want to know about the restaurants where I live and ask about my co-workers, I still have the PMs you sent me last week. I'll have my lawyer pass the info along to you. What's that behind you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #50 January 6, 2005 Umm.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
