skydiverbry 0 #1 January 27, 2009 Has anyone seen a Bogey 178 with red center lines.Why would this canopy have them?Used in CRW as a main?I looked in Poynter's manual and found no mention of this-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #2 January 27, 2009 The Red lines are normally for CRW Canopies. What color is the Chutes fabric? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #3 January 27, 2009 white-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #4 January 27, 2009 QuoteHas anyone seen a Bogey 178 with red center lines.Why would this canopy have them?Used in CRW as a main? ............................................................................ You just answered your own question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverbry 0 #5 January 27, 2009 Ok,thanks. Now what specifics can you tell me makes a reserve a reserve?? I know a reserve can be used as a main but not vice versa-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites faulknerwn 36 #6 January 27, 2009 CRWdogs always joke about installing red center lines on their reserves - maybe one of em actually did it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverbry 0 #7 January 27, 2009 Well,they are red and are centerline so............. -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #8 January 28, 2009 QuoteOk,thanks. Now what specifics can you tell me makes a reserve a reserve?? I know a reserve can be used as a main but not vice versa ...................................................... Government Technical Standard Orders require reserves (and pilot emergency parachutes) to be drop-tested exhaustively and all those tests have to be carefully documented. TSO set tight standards for opening time, opening distance, rate-of-descent, etc. which results in reserves being similar with seven cells, F-111 fabric, boring old types of suspension lines (Dacron or Spectra), medium aspect ratios (2.2 to 1), fast openings and short turf-surfs. The current TSO-C23D requires more than 60 drop tests before a reserve can be certified by the (US gov't) Federal Aviation Administration. Drop-testing usually starts with rubber dummies for the heavy-weight and high-speed phase. Once they have proven that reserve canopies will survive hard openings, they are tested at low air speeds and at least a few test drops have to be done with humans. If RSLs or AADs are installed, they also have to be tested at a variety of weights and airspeeds. Then the reserve must be manufactured in FAA-approved facilities with a long paper trail to confirm that production items match the test item. On the other hand, you can jump a bed sheet as a main canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverbry 0 #9 January 28, 2009 Gotcha,and thank you for helping me understand that. Bry-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skydiverbry 0 #5 January 27, 2009 Ok,thanks. Now what specifics can you tell me makes a reserve a reserve?? I know a reserve can be used as a main but not vice versa-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 36 #6 January 27, 2009 CRWdogs always joke about installing red center lines on their reserves - maybe one of em actually did it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #7 January 27, 2009 Well,they are red and are centerline so............. -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #8 January 28, 2009 QuoteOk,thanks. Now what specifics can you tell me makes a reserve a reserve?? I know a reserve can be used as a main but not vice versa ...................................................... Government Technical Standard Orders require reserves (and pilot emergency parachutes) to be drop-tested exhaustively and all those tests have to be carefully documented. TSO set tight standards for opening time, opening distance, rate-of-descent, etc. which results in reserves being similar with seven cells, F-111 fabric, boring old types of suspension lines (Dacron or Spectra), medium aspect ratios (2.2 to 1), fast openings and short turf-surfs. The current TSO-C23D requires more than 60 drop tests before a reserve can be certified by the (US gov't) Federal Aviation Administration. Drop-testing usually starts with rubber dummies for the heavy-weight and high-speed phase. Once they have proven that reserve canopies will survive hard openings, they are tested at low air speeds and at least a few test drops have to be done with humans. If RSLs or AADs are installed, they also have to be tested at a variety of weights and airspeeds. Then the reserve must be manufactured in FAA-approved facilities with a long paper trail to confirm that production items match the test item. On the other hand, you can jump a bed sheet as a main canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #9 January 28, 2009 Gotcha,and thank you for helping me understand that. Bry-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
