iamsam 0 #1 July 31, 2006 Hoping someone can help me out here as I stand to win £1,000,000 US $ - at least that was the bet, I may be settling for Two spheres of equal size with equal surface resistance/drag.. one full of lead, one full of feathers, dropped from higher than the leaning tower of pisa i.e an aeroplane.. do they hit the gound together, or is weight/density/mass a factor. The lead ball will fall faster no? Why else would skydivers wear weights? And fuck dropping them in a vacumn.. Hope I don't stand corrected.. Sambut what do I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2 July 31, 2006 QuoteHoping someone can help me out here as I stand to win £1,000,000 US $ - at least that was the bet, I may be settling for Two spheres of equal size with equal surface resistance/drag.. one full of lead, one full of feathers, dropped from higher than the leaning tower of pisa i.e an aeroplane.. do they hit the gound together, or is weight/density/mass a factor. The lead ball will fall faster no? Why else would skydivers wear weights? And fuck dropping them in a vacumn.. Hope I don't stand corrected.. Sam heavy ball smashes in first in normal atmosphere.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #3 July 31, 2006 QuoteAnd fuck dropping them in a vacumn..in a vacuum they will hit the ground at the same time...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #4 July 31, 2006 You're correct, the lead ball will hit the ground first. Think of it like this: A balloon, and an equally sized/shaped/textured 50lb object are dropped at the same time. It's pretty obvious which one will fall faster. The whole "all objects fall at the same speed" thing ONLY applies to a vacuum when all conditions are perfect. Gravity applies the same force to all objects regardless of shape/size/texture/weight, but unless you ARE in a vacuum, you have to factor in all the other variables too :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #5 July 31, 2006 QuoteYou're correct,but he said that it was in a vacuum... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #6 July 31, 2006 QuoteYou're correct, the lead ball will hit the ground first. Think of it like this: A balloon, and an equally sized/shaped/textured 50lb object are dropped at the same time. It's pretty obvious which one will fall faster. The whole "all objects fall at the same speed" thing ONLY applies to a vacuum when all conditions are perfect. Gravity applies the same force to all objects regardless of shape/size/texture/weight, but unless you ARE in a vacuum, you have to factor in all the other variables too :) Hoover or Oster?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #7 July 31, 2006 QuoteHoover or Oster?Dyson... Duh! Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #8 July 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteHoover or Oster?Dyson... Duh! just stop.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #9 July 31, 2006 Quotejust stop.I can't... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #10 July 31, 2006 QuoteI stand to win £1,000,000 US $ There must be something really shitty about these dollar pounds that makes everyone want to give them away in such large quantities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamsam 0 #11 July 31, 2006 Thank you all.. The bet is based on real world through an atmosphere, hence why I said fuck dropping them in a vacumn, where elephants and feathers fall at the same speed. Casch that was exactly the analogy I tried to convince them with - 2 balloons equal size etc one blown up with air, one full of water, which one will hit the ground first.. erm.. hello?!?! I also tried to invert the equasion somewhat - use wind resistance as a positive - a supertanker and a dinghy, both with a sail the same size , so air and water resistance a factor but its all the same..who's gonna win the race? This dude has an aeronautical engineering degree yet still he can't see it.. and his friend is a non-current skydiver, and he can't see it either. I'm gonna get real and make the bet something that might actually be paid, £100, thats 5 more jumps for me Thanks all again. Sambut what do I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamsam 0 #12 July 31, 2006 Force of habit... $1,000,00 US, but see post above, I've just downsized to £ sterling.but what do I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #13 July 31, 2006 So who'd your aeronautical engineering friend have to pay to get his degree? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #14 July 31, 2006 With equal drag being considered, the one that masses more will have a higher teminal velocity, thus reaching the ground sooner.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #15 July 31, 2006 QuoteThe bet is based on real world through an atmosphere, hence why I said fuck dropping them in a vacumn, where elephants and feathers fall at the same speed.oh well then yeah... you're right... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamsam 0 #16 July 31, 2006 He's a clever guy with real business acumen but I'm not getting in a plane that he's designed... Don't know who he paid but bet it was with those dollar pounds..but what do I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites