HenryRobert 0 #1 April 19, 2007 Hello, I must equip my new harness with a reliable and solid AAD. I was not especially directed towards great classic, but more towards one with recent technology. I had in the idea to equip me with Argus, but I intended to say that a argus had a missfire at 11500 ft the last w-e on the DZ of Spa. I would like to have your opinion on this incident and the causes if there is. As I am not a fan of the forced flying under canopy and would like to make free fall at least 9800ft… I would like to reçeive constructive consultings to be able to direct me towards a product which combines reliability, robustness and last technology. Thank you and good jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #2 April 19, 2007 Are you kidding? You smell like a troll. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris74 0 #3 April 19, 2007 Funny, he asked exactly the same thing on a french skydiving forum . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #4 April 20, 2007 Does it mean that he is Canadian? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #5 April 20, 2007 We can't say much about the misfire without more details. Do you have them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #6 April 20, 2007 There's nothing about this on the (Dutch language) Belgium forum. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 3 #7 April 20, 2007 my dear friend ---- I think you will find this is just more politics and not a factual occurance. However if it is a factual thing that is being reported I am sure that it will get a comment from someone who has registered longer and filled out the information on their profile. I have brought it to the attention of Aviacom so if their is any truth in this claim I am sure that we will see information from them here otherwise it would apear to be just more BSI like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blokki 0 #8 April 20, 2007 Was there a misfire ? I was there all weekend long (first to last load) and did not hear about it. We had some reserve rides, but none involving AAD for as far as I know ... I might have missed this ... but it normally catches my attention Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefly127 0 #9 April 20, 2007 Was there too. Heard about it. Wait the answer of Aviacom is the best tbings to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivepete 0 #10 April 20, 2007 QuoteI had in the idea to equip me with Argus, but I intended to say that a argus had a missfire at 11500 ft the last w-e on the DZ of Spa. There was a Vigil misfire 2 weeks ago at Skydive Flandres. Sounds like you better go for the great classic… Pieli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #11 April 20, 2007 QuoteThere was a Vigil misfire 2 weeks ago at Skydive Flandres is there any documentation of this ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivepete 0 #12 April 20, 2007 I don't know but plenty of eyewitnesses Pieli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrojanHorse 0 #13 April 20, 2007 QuoteWait the answer of Aviacom is the best tbings to do. An Experimental unit of Aviacom activated last Sunday in Spa at an altitude of 3680m (12076ft). The unit was installed in an Argus test-rig used by Mr. Goorts. This model is not commercially available. We do these tests for your safety. William, Argus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #14 April 20, 2007 ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefly127 0 #15 April 20, 2007 So you say it was a real test jump ? With your own family on board ? Great one ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #16 April 20, 2007 Quote I don't know but plenty of eyewitnesses Pieli video ? proof that Vigil misfired ? I am not advocating for/against anyone here.. Just trying to avoid the ridiculous bashing between belgian AAD's. I jump Cypres's anyways. For the moment, I am a lifetime customer by them.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elsenerenator 0 #17 April 20, 2007 Quote I would like to reçeive constructive consultings to be able to direct me towards a product which combines reliability, robustness and last technology. You want a reliable and solid AAD? I hope I can give you with my small experience some constructive consultings but you should go for the Vigil! The Vigil has all this. Check there website they mention almost exactly where you now ask for: reliability, robustness and last technology! You skydive at Spa? Spa is official Vigil Dropzone Center with good prices for them. That Vigil on Flandres fired on the ground only so nothing wrong their. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #18 April 20, 2007 Quote The Vigil has all this. Check there website they mention almost exactly where you now ask for: reliability, robustness and last technology! THAT'S WHAT THEY ALL SAY scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airgord 1 #19 April 20, 2007 Seems to me if these two manufacturers would put as much effort into fixing the problems of their products as they do flinging shit at each other we would have three really nice AAD's on the market. How about it gentlemen, fix your fucking problems and act like mature adults!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #20 April 20, 2007 WHICH 2 manufacturers? So far, the Vigil has had some misfires (plus whatever you call firing on the ground/in a pressurised aircraft) and the Cypres (1+2) has had plenty of misfires. Production units Argus misfires: 0. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 April 20, 2007 QuoteAre you kidding? You smell like a troll. seems like a lot of these fishy AAD misfire postings over the last couple months. Guerilla marketing gone haywire? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kermietje 0 #22 April 22, 2007 You call this normal? It just fired on the ground? You must be joking!!! Lets fly, thats what it is about no... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blokki 0 #23 April 23, 2007 I informed myself an it was Mr Goorts his son that had an argus misfire. Now I don't care about the battle between AAD's but when you let your 15 yr old son jump with test-material there is something wrong with you ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USPA 0 #24 April 23, 2007 Why? A test-jumper is a test-jumper, wheter or not it's family. It's perfectly fine to let a test-jumper experiment for you as long as he's not family? Argus openly advertises with the fact, allmost the complete staff and family are jumpers and activily involved in the development program. Since this is an experimental jump, done by in house test-jumpers, this shouldn't be on the forum. And they way it is titled and announced, it looks like nothing more then black-mouthing, probably with personal or commercial interest.The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blokki 0 #25 April 23, 2007 Not if he is 15 yrs old and only has 50 jumps and is not aware that he is a test jumper ... And it was not an experimental jump, it was a WARP ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
