77r 0 #1 April 18, 2007 Is the washing machine an option(if I seal off the metal tubes first and dry it right away)? or do I need to get it professionally done? Thx :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #2 April 18, 2007 1. Ask the manufacturer. 2. Search the forum and find lots of answers (I recommend not bothering with this, and just refer to #1 above). But searching will give you LOTS of responses to this oft-asked question. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1849582;search_string=wash%20rig;#1849582 -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #3 April 18, 2007 The Search Posts function can reveal a wealth of knowledge from conversations that have happened on numerous subjects such as this over seven plus years: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=10067;search_string=wash%20container;#10067 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=286354;search_string=wash%20container;#286354 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=336855;search_string=wash%20container;#336855 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1240628;search_string=wash%20container;#1240628 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1537818;search_string=wash%20container;#1537818Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #4 April 19, 2007 Assuming you're buying a used rig, why not just ask your rigger to do it for you. You'll be wanting them to inspect, install and pack your reserve and the AAD anyway, so a good bath could be seen as a "one shot" expense in the overall process. And then you can pick up an inspected, packed and squeaky clean rig that's ready to roll. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,739 #5 April 19, 2007 Short answer: Have a rigger do it. If you really want to do it yourself, wash it in a tub with Woolite. rinse it a LOT, and dry it out of the sun. Sealing off the metal tubes won't do anything; they're not waterproof to begin with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackR 0 #6 April 19, 2007 Land on your feet. (Sorry, that was the first thing I thought of when I saw the subject.)Packin' Jack 42nd Lost Prairie: The Ultimate Answer to Life, the Universe, and Skydiving 25 Jul - 3 Aug 2009 2007 photos: http://www.skydive.com/prairie/pages/prairie.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettpobastad 0 #7 April 19, 2007 For spot cleaning: STEP ONE: Let the soiled area dry (Do not attempt to clean a fresh moist or wet stain). STEP TWO: Spray on a mixture of Simple Green and water mixed 50/50 (You can use Simple Green straight but you would be wasting it. Less than a 50/50 mix may not lift stubborn stains). STEP THREE: Use a clean laundry brush or firm bristle tooth brush to lift the stain. (the foam should turn the color of the staining substance) STEP FOUR: Use a dry or slightly damp cloth to dab the dirty foam from the rig. REPEAT AS NEEDED This is all you need to do. This procedure will work for virtually any stain, new or old, regardless of the type of staining substance (dirt or mud, grass, blood, bug juice, whatever). Simple Green is a biodegradable and non-toxic liquid. It will not hurt nylon at any concentration."It's only arrogance if you can't back it up" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettpobastad 0 #8 April 19, 2007 For complete rig cleaning: STEP ONE: Remove anything that can be removed (disassemble the main and reserve from the container, remove ripcords, closing loops, etc.) STEP TWO: Use a laundry brush to remove dried surface stains (follow my spot cleaning procedures for tough stains. See previous post in this thread). STEP THREE: Soak the rig in the bathtub using warm to hot water with any mild household soap (Woolite works OK, I find that cheap dish detergent works the best). You want the water to be pretty foamy but not like one of those TV bubble baths. STEP FOUR: Agitate by hand. Use a brush on heavily soiled areas. STEP FIVE: Allow to soak until the water turns dirty. No more then two hours shoutld be needed. IT IS NOT NECESSARY, OR EVEN DESIRABLE TO ALLOW THE RIG TO SOAK OVERNIGHT! STEP SIX: Rinse with COLD water until the water runs clear. STEP SEVEN: Drip Dry. Use your palms or a clean towel to remove excess water from pads, etc. (Do not ring out or twist the material) This part of the procedure may take anywhere from several hours to overnight depending on the humidity in the air. STEP EIGHT: Use a blow dryer to dry areas adjacent to any metal fittings that were not removable. Note: This procedure can be performed by anyone but I generally recommend having you rigger do it. Its a messy pain in the ass as it is."It's only arrogance if you can't back it up" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 278 #9 April 19, 2007 Quote STEP SEVEN: Drip Dry. [...] This part of the procedure may take anywhere from several hours to overnight depending on the humidity in the air. I'll add that in some conditions it takes even longer to dry, especially deep down in multi layer fabric, webbing, and foam areas. So I like to add a fan in front of the rig to keep the air circulating to speed drying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,739 #10 April 19, 2007 >I'll add that in some conditions it takes even longer to dry . . . I'd add that I've never seen a rig that was close to dry in several hours! Allowing a few days is a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettpobastad 0 #11 April 19, 2007 QuoteSo I like to add a fan in front of the rig to keep the air circulating to speed drying. Good idea! I have used a fan before and it helps. Just remember to keep the rig out of any direct sunlight."It's only arrogance if you can't back it up" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettpobastad 0 #12 April 19, 2007 QuoteI'd add that I've never seen a rig that was close to dry in several hours! Allowing a few days is a good idea. You must never have washed (and dried) a rig in Southern California. I live in the Pacific Northwest where theres always humidity in the air. If I wash a rig in the morning, quite possibly it's dry by that evening. Usually it takes until the next day. The trick is to periodically pat or dab the moisture out of the fabric of the rig as it dries."It's only arrogance if you can't back it up" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 April 19, 2007 QuoteFor complete rig cleaning: THANKS I remember taking our rigs (late '80's) to the car wash.... One thing I know from a couple years ago is you can't hide stains by painting your rig (true story - a new jumper bought a rig from a website ad and gave it to our rigger for inspection and pack. The container was spray painted black. scary. underneath it was neon green and neon pink as far as we could tell - more scary.) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettpobastad 0 #14 April 19, 2007 QuoteI remember taking our rigs (late '80's) to the car wash.... That's Old School, bro! I've never done that but my brother use to tell me about times when they would take the jumper with his rig still on to the car wash for a hose job after a particularly bad landing."It's only arrogance if you can't back it up" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 April 19, 2007 Quote for a hose job after a particularly bad landing. That's pretty harsh. But I guess if you torture someone enough, they'll learn to land better. And the nice part is, now that you're at the car wash, you can wash the rig after the beating. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #17 April 22, 2007 Sounds like a lot of work Brett. I just throw mine in the washing machine. Step 1. Put rig in washing machine. Step 2. Take rig out of washing machine. Same result, less steps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettpobastad 0 #18 April 22, 2007 You do what'cha gotta do, Scotty! Me rigger, you not!"It's only arrogance if you can't back it up" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #19 April 22, 2007 I talked to factory reps at both Mirage and Jav, then combined their instructions. Bathtub, woolite or other fabric softener, rinsing lots, several fans. It's always worked for me that way.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vid666 0 #20 April 23, 2007 Quote I talked to factory reps at both Mirage and Jav, then combined their instructions. Bathtub, woolite or other fabric softener, rinsing lots, several fans. It's always worked for me that way. at this point I have washed about 3 BASE containers and about 10 skydiving containers. I have to say that I find woolite + bathtub (and a little shout for real dirty parts) does a hell of a lot better job then a washing machine. I feel that I can micro-manage the "wash cycle" and that a toothbrush can really get the job done well in small areas. Also, FWIW the bright yellow toggles that many of us have - 5 minutes of shout and a good rinsing does wonders !. hope this helps... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites