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I started joggling, ie juggling while running, while in college



That's awesome -- I've seen people who do entire marathons joggling. What kind of distance did you do, or was it just for fun? I admire the coordination and concentration that takes, and once thought of taking it up myself.

I was never very competitive at it... I actually didn't start running until my last few years of college whereas I learned to juggle when I was in highschool so when i decided to take up running it just kind of made sense. A three ball cascade fits remarcably well into a brisk jog in fact I used to find my pace would increase a bit while I was joggling because of the rather brisk, smooth nature of my juggling pattern.

I usually did most of my joggling with weighted tennis balls (about 1 lb a piece) which I made by cutting a small slit in the side of the ball and filling them with steel bb's then I resealed the slit with a hot glue gun. this worked remarcably well and I could have had heavier balls if I had used lead shot. several years ago I also asked for and received a set of 2.35lb exerballs for those times that I really wanted a work out... and let me tell you they really wear you out quick... :D:D

I never had too much trouble with it but I started juggling 10 or so years before I started running... I would get the occasional jerk that would try to distract me and thus mess up my "concentration/pattern" one was severely scolded by the girlfriend escorting him... :D but I also got to watch younger kids eyes get huge and excited whenever I jogged past. :D

I had a kid catch up to me running backwards once who proceeded to declare to me that I was in fact running pretty fast... which I got a kick out of since he was running backwards... :D so I couldn't have been going "that" fast... then there was the Flabergasted "Gaijin-san!!!" :o:o once when I was doing it in Japan one evening... :D:D
Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

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I was part of a college which (according to American exchange students) is the Aussie equivalent to a sorority/ fraternity except it was co-ed and you lived there. It's way more than a dorm and you are definitely made to do a lot of crazy things as freshers and acquire power as you move up the ranks.. The college system here is modelled on the Oxford/ Cambridge/ Princeton version...
I was at St John's College at the University of Sydney which supposedly has the reputation of being the worst-behaved, wildest party college in Australia. I had no idea when I got in but I totally don't doubt that. Other colleges were at least good at sport or academics, we sucked at everything except creating ruckus, getting people drunk and coming up with new ways to cause trouble.

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Actually, unless I miss my guess, the colleges aren't the same. You're assigned to a college, not recruited by it. My university had a college system as well, which is why it said it didn't want sororities or fraternities.

One of the big things about the greeks (fraternities and sororities) are their selectivity. In other words, if you aren't cool enough (or related to someone who is cool enough), or rich enough, you won't get in. Big difference between that and a college, where you're assigned.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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To address the buying or renting friends, thing I don't agree. If I had felt like it was buying or renting friends I wouldn't have joined. The process of pledging is used to bring you closer to your pledge brothers and the initiation is a comon experience that you all. Much like skydiving in that way, the way you will feel closer to a skydiving stranger than a non-skydiving stanger. I grew very close to my fraternity brothers and infact live with 3 of them even know. Its not for eveyone, that is evident, but I would look at it from a different prespective and see what it is about.
Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama

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A lot of the issues brought up are the typical greek stereotypes I was talking about. Agreed, it is like this at a lot of big schools; I won't deny that. But, you can't place the judgement on the entire greek system like that. My sosority initiated ALL types of girls. Sure, we had standars, but usually if you didn't get a bid it's because you're bad news on campus, IE: you get drunk and naked at parties, you become the campus slut in one week after moving in as a freshmen, etc. Like I said, I probably wouldn't have joined the greek system if I had been at a big ten school or something, but these girls were down to earth and very chill. We weren't the cheerleaders, we weren't the preps, we weren't the rich little girls (especially myself!). We were the geeks, just like everybody else at my school (tech school). We were fat, skinny, blonde, red, brown. There was no physical standard for us, which is why I loved it. Our standards were academics, self integrity, and womanhood.

As for buying friends? Yea, I can see why some people think that, but actually there is so much more that goes for those dues than just "buying friends". A lot of our dues went to keep our chapter house; where I was offered a place to stay when I had nowhere else to go (and no money at one point, so thank god for the roof they gave me for a month!), and a good chunk of money goes to help our number one fundraiser of womens cardiac care and research. I'm also offered emergency funds from our international-- IE, when the hurricane destroyed a few sisters homes in 2004, they got a check sent to them by Alpha Phi international. There is so much more that the money goes for than what people assume.

I'm attaching a picture of my sorority, and let me know if we look like your typical sorority chicks; take a look and see how different your assumptions can become.
Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :)

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I was: Sigma Tau Gamma, Beta Epsilon chapter at Shippensburg (PA) University, Spring 1983 class...yeah, I'm old. I was also a member of the Gamma Tau chapter at

I pledged for three main reasons:
1. I wanted to play sports, but not at the varsity level.
2. I wanted to meet people from outside of my HS friends who were there.
3. I *thought* that I'd make lifelong buddies...you know, brothers for life.

If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have pledged. Regardless of what we were told, pledging was all encompassing that semester. We did have some fun times during pledging. But overall, it was exhausting, and hurt my GPA severely. I transferred to the college where I got my degree after three semesters at Shipp, and I haven't talked to any of my fraternity brothers since then.

Being a Sig Tau only benefitted me once, and even that wasn't a big deal. When I moved to Denver, my new boss was a Sig Tau, though from a different chapter. Didn't really help my career path, but it was something in common.

Looking back, I did play intramural sports through Sig Tau, I met some people from outside my HS group, but I didn't make any lifelong friends.

Chris
Burn the land and boil the sea,
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See, every fraternity is different. With what I know now, I would without a doubt join again, although it depends on the people within.

The reason I accepted the bid was because
1) the people I had met seemed cool
2) the only reason I had for not accepting was because it was a fraternity, and as I was always someone that said, "don't judge a book by its cover", I refused to be a hypocrite, so joined to see what it was all about.

It was the best decision of my life.

I -have- made lifelong friends. I -have- met people that would take a bullet for me, and I likewise for them.

When I returned from Europe with all my credit cards maxed out and without a dime in my pocket, a brother that I barely knew who had graduated years before I came to the school gave me a free place to crash for a few months while I was able to get back on my feet. I also know of other occurences where other brothers have helped in similar ways.

Not every fraternity out there is for the cliquish, stuck-up, rich folk. While they are out there, and probably in the majority as well, there are also fraternities that still do believe in true brotherhood and friendship.
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There are enough superiority complexes and arrogance in this world. No thanks.


Anybody remember Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" and her Superiority dance on SNL?
"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings."
"Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."

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was at St John's College at the University of Sydney which supposedly has the reputation of being the worst-behaved, wildest party college in Australia.



hey i went to a party or two there! and you're right, it definitely had the "greek" sense to it even though it wasnt. but the fact that you didnt have to pay to be a part of it makes it all the better...

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