Kelly 0 #26 January 20, 2007 Quote but I had it professionally edited. I had the pleasure of reading this book at a very close, very detailed pace and I have to say that it is my all time favorite book. It is easy to understand, thought provoking, and progressive. It is one of those life changing books that you read and know that you will keep in your collection forever. I can't tell you how many times I've found myself repeating lines from the book when trying to calm down and solve a risky situation. Thanks Bri! I miss you and love ya! Hugs, Kel Oh yeah. I too love "Relax, Focus, and Flow." I often say that to myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #27 January 20, 2007 the 2nd option. Although i like "Overcoming" better than "Battling" as well.. Rush Fan? Quote Things crawl in the darkness That imagination spins Needles at your nerve ends Crawl like spiders on your skin Pounding in your temples And a surge of adrenaline Every muscle tense to fence the enemy within [Chorus:] I'm not giving in to security under pressure I'm not missing out on the promise of adventure I'm not giving up on implausible dreams Experience to extremes Experience to extremes... Suspicious looking stranger Flashes you a dangerous grin Shadows across your window... Was it only trees in the wind? Every breath a static charge, A tongue that tastes like tin Steely-eyed outside to hide the enemy within To you, is it movement or is it action? Is it contact or just reaction? And you...revolution or just resistance? Is it living, or just existence? Yeah, you! It takes a little more persistence To get up and go the distance Love the Book btw.. glad to see it getting a 2nd edition and some proof reading.. there were a few typos (one was really funny but i cant recall why) i've given away both my copies so will have to get more...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madison 0 #28 January 20, 2007 I would choose option 1. Your other choice goes against one's path to wholeness : you accept the enemy as part of your being, explore what's inside you, it's trying to teach you something. Never battle with yourself-it's not good for you. Thanks for the past references to meditation. I non-do everyday. CRW Skies,April Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #29 January 20, 2007 Relax, focus and flow.__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianSGermain 1 #30 January 20, 2007 "I had the pleasure of reading this book at a very close, very detailed pace and I have to say that it is my all time favorite book. It is easy to understand, thought provoking, and progressive. It is one of those life changing books that you read and know that you will keep in your collection forever. I can't tell you how many times I've found myself repeating lines from the book when trying to calm down and solve a risky situation." That comment changed my whole perspective on life. Thank you. BriInstructional Videos:www.AdventureWisdom.com Keynote Speaking:www.TranscendingFEAR.com Canopies and Courses:www.BIGAIRSPORTZ.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gato 0 #31 January 20, 2007 Hey Brian - Option 1 helps support the content of the book, and I think it gives a prospective reader a fair idea of what's coming. If you are using the same photo as the edition I have (you, over the ocean?), Option 1 supports that more appropriately than #2. Great book, by the way; glad to hear you've got yourself a good editor - your work deserves it! ChrisT.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #32 January 20, 2007 #1 Seems a bit soft... #2 Why battle? instead I pose the following.... #3 Rising above the Beyond I offer this up to the public domain... ADDED: What about #4 One step Ahead (staying one step ahead?)Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcbfly 1 #33 January 20, 2007 First, great book. It helped me to succeed on my second attempt at AFF. As a jumper I prefer #1, but if you are trying to reach wuffos, I think #2 is better . Why? Because I think the average ground-clinging wuff is more familiar/comfortable with the idea of "battling" than "flowing". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #34 January 20, 2007 QuoteFirst, great book. It helped me to succeed on my second attempt at AFF. As a jumper I prefer #1, but if you are trying to reach wuffos, I think #2 is better . Why? Because I think the average ground-clinging wuff is more familiar/comfortable with the idea of "battling" than "flowing". Well said. One has to remember who their target audience is, not the ones who are already on their side. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acoisa 0 #35 January 20, 2007 Definately #1! Especially if you see it in context with "Transcending Fear" Relax conveys calming down, which excludes the feeling of fear. Focus sounds more like working on and developing yourself to achieve something rather than battling your "self" which sounds kinda negative. Flow is what you want in the end. I think this is the best option because you are summarizing the path described in the book - along with the method and the goal - in 3 words that are not easily forgotten and can also serve as an anchor when you get freaked and want to calm down. Other than that from a marketing p.o.v. title #1 sounds more like the book teaches confidence and control rather than battling yourself. To clarify: What would you rather do? Relax focus and flow or battle? (does battling usually mean winning or losing to your target group?) Hope I could help, Cya this year in Germany.. Mike Btw. Thanks for your book tip! (Flow by M.C.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BGill 0 #36 January 20, 2007 #1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DickMcMahon 0 #37 January 20, 2007 "Battling the Enemy Within" ... that's what fear is all about anyway! Dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #38 January 21, 2007 I prefer Relax, Focus, and Flow. It's what the book is about and has a positive sound to it that should appeal to skydivers and other action sporty types. Battling the enemy within might be true, but it sounds like anything from alcoholism to credit card debt or (shudder) nymphomania. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #39 January 21, 2007 QuoteI prefer Relax, Focus, and Flow. It's what the book is about and has a positive sound to it that should appeal to skydivers and other action sporty types. Battling the enemy within might be true, but it sounds like anything from alcoholism to credit card debt or (shudder) nymphomania. the reason i dislike "relax, focus, flow" is that is a far to simplistic summary of the work and ideas.. if it is that easy, why do i need to read the book? I've already learned everything i need to know from the subtitle.. does everyone remember all the 'just feel it' coaching advice from early freefliers? was that advice REALLY that helpful for someone who was struggling to learn something difficult? Or did it just come off as arrogant?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thunderbow 1 #40 January 21, 2007 Option 2. By the way I liked your article in Parachutist. I was thinking of writing in with a little info on how I learned to relax while going through an anxiety/depression problem a number of years ago. I learned to relax to the point that just the word "relax" (my work I used while listening to my relaxation tapes) said to myself calms me down quite a bit right away. I am sure it would help a lot in a tight situation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lord, let me be the person my dog thinks I am. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chanti 0 #41 January 21, 2007 QuoteI prefer: Overcoming the Enemy Within I agree. I like option 2 but not "battling" (puts it in a negative context). Choose something more positive like overcoming/facing/defeating ... ? Having said that, the "relax" part of option 1 really helped me the other day when I had a scary canopy situation. I could hear your voice saying:"breathe in ... relax ...." Helped me land without injury! -Chanti- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BrianSGermain 1 #42 January 21, 2007 What do you folks think of: Transcending Fear Conquering the Enemy Within By the way, I am LOVING the converstations and comments on this topic. Now you know what I do when I am home! THANK YOU! +Instructional Videos:www.AdventureWisdom.com Keynote Speaking:www.TranscendingFEAR.com Canopies and Courses:www.BIGAIRSPORTZ.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #43 January 21, 2007 i vote this one... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smiles 0 #44 January 21, 2007 It is funny to search posts here with the word 'flow" re: freaking low flow toilets go with the flow dive flow, fight flight or flow.... also when you google search "thought destroys flow" UWF chapter 7- Head Trips http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~esj/uwf/uwf7.htm I found it difficult to relate to the meaning of "flow" in relation to skydiving for a long time....it wasn't until I read about it in a sports related article titled "thought destroys flow." re: There is no sense of the self in the period of flow, but what is called a "merging of action and awareness." The individual is aware of their actions but not aware of their awareness. Thought destroys flow. If the second is split so that the player perceives their action from the outside....flow halts. The person in flow does not stop to evaluate the feedback. The action and reaction have become so well practiced as to be automatic. ........... re: The clarity of response that I receive while skydiving offers fast and direct feedback. There is no sense of myself in the period of flow, but merging of action and awareness. My body receives a sense of ecstasy associated with the most intense moments of flow.... My skydiving developed when action and reaction became so well practiced it was automatic. I was able to leave the aircraft and fly....without thought of how to do it. My vote: Option One: Relax, Focus and Flow I do not perceive "flow" as "battling the enemy within" SMileseustress. : a positive form of stress having a beneficial effect on health, motivation, performance, and emotional well-being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites unformed 0 #45 January 21, 2007 QuoteConquering the Enemy Within I definitely prefer this over "Battling". Personally, I still prefer RFF, but this is close. I think for most people, though, CTEW would be more marketable to most people, but I like the Taoist feel behind RFF.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Garycal 0 #46 January 21, 2007 Bian option number 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #47 January 21, 2007 another reason i believe that "Conquering the Enemy Within" is better for the target audience.. with the exception of a few dedicated types how many of your expected readers have already delved deeply into such Taoist thoughts and concepts? by way of example if i were to say "the moon; the cold stream, a mirror" who would 'get it' right away? at least enough to want to pick up and perhaps purchase the book? Simple statements are profound once understood, but generally take YEARS of contemplation and practice to truly grasp and implement as part of a mental training program.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 0 #48 January 21, 2007 I prefer #1, but then I'm not your target audience. You might do well to contact your local yoga/meditation/alternative therapies centre and perform an informal poll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Acoisa 0 #49 January 21, 2007 QuoteWhat do you folks think of: Transcending Fear Conquering the Enemy Within That sounds a lot better in my opinion, now I almost can't decide. My gut feeling tells me that "conquerinig the enemy within" has a more positive impact. I think you just found the key word to replace "battling"! ....Yeah, "Conquering the Enemy Within" sets up a better vision of what to expect from the book. As a customer, I would choose a book that tells me how to conquer an enemy within over a book that reinroduces methods (in the subtitle) that I am already partially familiar with. Nice one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BrianSGermain 1 #50 January 22, 2007 QuoteI am taking last minute votes regarding the subtitle of Transcending Fear, 2nd Edition. The book goes to print in about a week, so get your vote in right away. To vote, simply reply to this post with one or the other. (Please, no suggestions beyond the presented options, I have worked very hard to narrow it down). Option One: Relax, Focus and Flow Option Two: Battling the Enemy Within Thanks, Everybody!! Another unconsidered possibility is, I can get rid of the subtitle altogether. Do I really need one anyway? +Instructional Videos:www.AdventureWisdom.com Keynote Speaking:www.TranscendingFEAR.com Canopies and Courses:www.BIGAIRSPORTZ.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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DickMcMahon 0 #37 January 20, 2007 "Battling the Enemy Within" ... that's what fear is all about anyway! Dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #38 January 21, 2007 I prefer Relax, Focus, and Flow. It's what the book is about and has a positive sound to it that should appeal to skydivers and other action sporty types. Battling the enemy within might be true, but it sounds like anything from alcoholism to credit card debt or (shudder) nymphomania. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #39 January 21, 2007 QuoteI prefer Relax, Focus, and Flow. It's what the book is about and has a positive sound to it that should appeal to skydivers and other action sporty types. Battling the enemy within might be true, but it sounds like anything from alcoholism to credit card debt or (shudder) nymphomania. the reason i dislike "relax, focus, flow" is that is a far to simplistic summary of the work and ideas.. if it is that easy, why do i need to read the book? I've already learned everything i need to know from the subtitle.. does everyone remember all the 'just feel it' coaching advice from early freefliers? was that advice REALLY that helpful for someone who was struggling to learn something difficult? Or did it just come off as arrogant?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbow 1 #40 January 21, 2007 Option 2. By the way I liked your article in Parachutist. I was thinking of writing in with a little info on how I learned to relax while going through an anxiety/depression problem a number of years ago. I learned to relax to the point that just the word "relax" (my work I used while listening to my relaxation tapes) said to myself calms me down quite a bit right away. I am sure it would help a lot in a tight situation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lord, let me be the person my dog thinks I am. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chanti 0 #41 January 21, 2007 QuoteI prefer: Overcoming the Enemy Within I agree. I like option 2 but not "battling" (puts it in a negative context). Choose something more positive like overcoming/facing/defeating ... ? Having said that, the "relax" part of option 1 really helped me the other day when I had a scary canopy situation. I could hear your voice saying:"breathe in ... relax ...." Helped me land without injury! -Chanti- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianSGermain 1 #42 January 21, 2007 What do you folks think of: Transcending Fear Conquering the Enemy Within By the way, I am LOVING the converstations and comments on this topic. Now you know what I do when I am home! THANK YOU! +Instructional Videos:www.AdventureWisdom.com Keynote Speaking:www.TranscendingFEAR.com Canopies and Courses:www.BIGAIRSPORTZ.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #43 January 21, 2007 i vote this one... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiles 0 #44 January 21, 2007 It is funny to search posts here with the word 'flow" re: freaking low flow toilets go with the flow dive flow, fight flight or flow.... also when you google search "thought destroys flow" UWF chapter 7- Head Trips http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~esj/uwf/uwf7.htm I found it difficult to relate to the meaning of "flow" in relation to skydiving for a long time....it wasn't until I read about it in a sports related article titled "thought destroys flow." re: There is no sense of the self in the period of flow, but what is called a "merging of action and awareness." The individual is aware of their actions but not aware of their awareness. Thought destroys flow. If the second is split so that the player perceives their action from the outside....flow halts. The person in flow does not stop to evaluate the feedback. The action and reaction have become so well practiced as to be automatic. ........... re: The clarity of response that I receive while skydiving offers fast and direct feedback. There is no sense of myself in the period of flow, but merging of action and awareness. My body receives a sense of ecstasy associated with the most intense moments of flow.... My skydiving developed when action and reaction became so well practiced it was automatic. I was able to leave the aircraft and fly....without thought of how to do it. My vote: Option One: Relax, Focus and Flow I do not perceive "flow" as "battling the enemy within" SMileseustress. : a positive form of stress having a beneficial effect on health, motivation, performance, and emotional well-being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #45 January 21, 2007 QuoteConquering the Enemy Within I definitely prefer this over "Battling". Personally, I still prefer RFF, but this is close. I think for most people, though, CTEW would be more marketable to most people, but I like the Taoist feel behind RFF.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garycal 0 #46 January 21, 2007 Bian option number 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #47 January 21, 2007 another reason i believe that "Conquering the Enemy Within" is better for the target audience.. with the exception of a few dedicated types how many of your expected readers have already delved deeply into such Taoist thoughts and concepts? by way of example if i were to say "the moon; the cold stream, a mirror" who would 'get it' right away? at least enough to want to pick up and perhaps purchase the book? Simple statements are profound once understood, but generally take YEARS of contemplation and practice to truly grasp and implement as part of a mental training program.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #48 January 21, 2007 I prefer #1, but then I'm not your target audience. You might do well to contact your local yoga/meditation/alternative therapies centre and perform an informal poll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acoisa 0 #49 January 21, 2007 QuoteWhat do you folks think of: Transcending Fear Conquering the Enemy Within That sounds a lot better in my opinion, now I almost can't decide. My gut feeling tells me that "conquerinig the enemy within" has a more positive impact. I think you just found the key word to replace "battling"! ....Yeah, "Conquering the Enemy Within" sets up a better vision of what to expect from the book. As a customer, I would choose a book that tells me how to conquer an enemy within over a book that reinroduces methods (in the subtitle) that I am already partially familiar with. Nice one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianSGermain 1 #50 January 22, 2007 QuoteI am taking last minute votes regarding the subtitle of Transcending Fear, 2nd Edition. The book goes to print in about a week, so get your vote in right away. To vote, simply reply to this post with one or the other. (Please, no suggestions beyond the presented options, I have worked very hard to narrow it down). Option One: Relax, Focus and Flow Option Two: Battling the Enemy Within Thanks, Everybody!! Another unconsidered possibility is, I can get rid of the subtitle altogether. Do I really need one anyway? +Instructional Videos:www.AdventureWisdom.com Keynote Speaking:www.TranscendingFEAR.com Canopies and Courses:www.BIGAIRSPORTZ.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
