mofo554 0 #1 November 7, 2003 Ok...so is this skydiving's dirtiest little secret? Well, to be more correct, it isn't exactly a secret. Many (perhaps only some) know that Mike Mullins was put on trial, and eventually acquitted, for the murder of his wife. The circumstances surrounding the case were extremely fishy. If I recall correctly, Mullins spent a small fortune on his legal team, and the case attracted a great deal of media attention. My question is along these lines. Are there people out there who refuse to jump, work, associate, etc. with Mullins because of his "shady" past? To anybody that knows him or has met him, have you ever seen this come up in conversation around him? How was it dealt with at the time of the investigation, trial, and immediately following the verdict? Further, to anybody that knows anything about the incident, do you think he is guilty? He may have been found not guilty in a court of law, but the court of public opinion is another matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazarrd 1 #2 November 7, 2003 wow, never even knew ANY of that...but i havent jumped in his plane before either, just heard of it .-. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R00tj00se 0 #3 November 7, 2003 Just thought I'd post to see if this thread was locked yet... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R00tj00se 0 #4 November 7, 2003 ...hmmm, not yet. Well only a matter of time considering the subject matter and the way it is presented. Someone had a little too much of the antagonism juice, maybe... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #5 November 7, 2003 I know people that will not jump his plane.....In fact a large number of the "old school" Memphis jumpers stopped jumping or went to small cessna DZ's. It has never been brought up around him anytime I was with him. I used to travel with the KA and spent a fair amount of time with the guy. Fact is he didn't get convicted. So in my eyes he didn't do it. Fishy evidence or not. As for other Dirty little secrets....Think Roger Nelson. But as with both of these guys, most of what you hear is just flat out wrong and slander. Makes me wonder why you posted this? Got a beef with Mike?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #6 November 7, 2003 Do you have an axe to grind or something? Give it a rest. This subject seems to come up every year or so. Try doing a search here and on the internet if you want to know what people think. Don't waste our time and HH's bandwidth. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #7 November 7, 2003 If you go through skydiving avoiding everybody who has an interesting past, you'll find yourself hanging out with a pretty small crowd, I think. He was aquitted. I don't see any point in holding a grudge against someone who got let off. It's that whole thing about being presumed innocent until proven guilty... _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #8 November 7, 2003 You can learn more about it in MikeMullinsHollyFulton.mov at http://www.skydivingmovies.com/movies.php?mode=2&dir=from_TV. (47 megs) Strange story but I don't care. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #9 November 8, 2003 QuoteFact is he didn't get convicted. So in my eyes he didn't do it. Fishy evidence or not. Das right!! Just ask OJ! JumpScars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 4 #10 November 8, 2003 The moment there's a personal attack in this thread, either against Mike or between posters, it's gone. If you can hold this conversation without that, great. If not, don't ask me where it went. (Turns over the egg-timer) Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wzettler 0 #11 November 8, 2003 Well then i am going to go ahead and get in before the lock now... I think when Jesus said "love your enemy" he probably meant don't kill them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #12 November 8, 2003 you know anyone can accuse someone of something and push it into court and there will be people out there that automatically assume the person to be guilty. I don't know anything about Mike Mullins other then he has a really fast plane. So I believe he is innocent and to speculate on something that no one outside of the police, the jurors, judge and the people involved really know anything about is a waste of time. Let it go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blahr 0 #13 November 8, 2003 Not everyone that is accused of a crime is guilty. Not everyone that commits a crime will be accused. If there was not sufficient evidence to convict him then in our society and in the eyes of the law, he is innocent. This thread simply serves to create controversy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canopywhore 0 #14 November 8, 2003 I've never discussed it with him nor have I seen anybody talk to him about it. I personally feel that Mike has my safety in mind when he flies or acts as my USPA representative. Mike really cares about jumpers and he's not a bad stick, thats what matters to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #15 November 8, 2003 QuoteOk...so is this skydiving's dirtiest little secret? Well, to be more correct, it isn't exactly a secret. Many (perhaps only some) know that Mike Mullins was put on trial, and eventually acquitted, for the murder of his wife. The circumstances surrounding the case were extremely fishy. If I recall correctly, Mullins spent a small fortune on his legal team, and the case attracted a great deal of media attention. My question is along these lines. Are there people out there who refuse to jump, work, associate, etc. with Mullins because of his "shady" past? To anybody that knows him or has met him, have you ever seen this come up in conversation around him? How was it dealt with at the time of the investigation, trial, and immediately following the verdict? Further, to anybody that knows anything about the incident, do you think he is guilty? He may have been found not guilty in a court of law, but the court of public opinion is another matter. Regardless of opinions, Mike didn't do it. He was acquitted because he is innocent. I'll jump with him anytime, and am honored to have him as a friend. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #16 November 8, 2003 QuoteIf there was not sufficient evidence to convict him then in our society and in the eyes of the law, he is innocent. Then why does that not hold true for OJ Simpson? I'm not drawing any conclusions about Mike Mullins since I do not know the guy nor do I know the details of his case. TBH, I don't feel that is matters to me. There's a lot of people that I know with questionable pasts. What matters to me is who they are now..I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #17 November 8, 2003 Quote Regardless of opinions, Mike didn't do it. He was acquitted because he is innocent. Quote He was found "Not Guilty" Not..."Innocent" ...I remember couch freaks well. That being said, I would jump with or do business with Mr. Mullens anywhere...anytime. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 186 #18 November 8, 2003 QuoteQuote Regardless of opinions, Mike didn't do it. He was acquitted because he is innocent. Quote He was found "Not Guilty" Not..."Innocent" ...I remember couch freaks well. That being said, I would jump with or do business with Mr. Mullens anywhere...anytime. I didn't say he was found innocent, I said he IS innocent - I'm aware of the distinction. He was found not guilty of the charges because he is innocent of the crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,623 #19 November 8, 2003 What's secret about it, dirty or otherwise? I thought it was common knowledge. It's even been on TV.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites andy2 0 #20 November 8, 2003 who gives a shit, let's skydive! If mike can get me to altitude quick I don't give a rat's ass about what he did or did not do in his past! (havn't jumped his jumpship yet but looking DAMN foward to it!) --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MissMae 0 #21 November 8, 2003 I used to jump out at Coolidge quite a bit when he was out there and honestly he seems like every other person out there. Very cordial and polite and DAMN HIS PLANE IS FAST!!!!!!!! Miss that he is actually not out there anymore. Guess I'll have to go start chasing the boogie circuits and become a real skydiver... Seriously though, I heard about the "dirty secret" and since I had met him before I knew and already based my opinion of him off of my own personal experience then who really gives a shit? take the time to appreciate the people around you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiverRick 0 #22 November 8, 2003 do you think he is guilty? Mike was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, that's good enough for me. I can't wait until the next time I jump his plane. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #23 November 8, 2003 Quotewho gives a shit, let's skydive! *** Ada Boy!www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 8 #24 November 8, 2003 Who are we to pass judgement?? I know that I am in no position to make these decisions, and those who were trusted to judge by the court system (the Jury) acquitted the man - What else do you want? I will never associate with those who commit such crimes. Mike was acquitted - Doesn't that satisfy you? Granted, our justice system is a long way from perfect - but it is all we have - and a LOT more than what you or I have. My .02 -=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jethers203 0 #25 November 8, 2003 Well, I don't know details, but I don't need to. I have jumped his plane a few times and he is one hell of a pilot. I also know one of his sons and a long time family friend that Mike brought up practically as a son. For one, his boys have there shit together and are damn fine people. They were raised that way by Mike. The past is the past and we all know that only celebrities like OJ can get off. Mike was found innocent for a reason. Now, like what was said above, LET'S SKYDIVE!!!!! Clint D-24352 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
winsor 186 #18 November 8, 2003 QuoteQuote Regardless of opinions, Mike didn't do it. He was acquitted because he is innocent. Quote He was found "Not Guilty" Not..."Innocent" ...I remember couch freaks well. That being said, I would jump with or do business with Mr. Mullens anywhere...anytime. I didn't say he was found innocent, I said he IS innocent - I'm aware of the distinction. He was found not guilty of the charges because he is innocent of the crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,623 #19 November 8, 2003 What's secret about it, dirty or otherwise? I thought it was common knowledge. It's even been on TV.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites andy2 0 #20 November 8, 2003 who gives a shit, let's skydive! If mike can get me to altitude quick I don't give a rat's ass about what he did or did not do in his past! (havn't jumped his jumpship yet but looking DAMN foward to it!) --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MissMae 0 #21 November 8, 2003 I used to jump out at Coolidge quite a bit when he was out there and honestly he seems like every other person out there. Very cordial and polite and DAMN HIS PLANE IS FAST!!!!!!!! Miss that he is actually not out there anymore. Guess I'll have to go start chasing the boogie circuits and become a real skydiver... Seriously though, I heard about the "dirty secret" and since I had met him before I knew and already based my opinion of him off of my own personal experience then who really gives a shit? take the time to appreciate the people around you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiverRick 0 #22 November 8, 2003 do you think he is guilty? Mike was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, that's good enough for me. I can't wait until the next time I jump his plane. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #19 November 8, 2003 What's secret about it, dirty or otherwise? I thought it was common knowledge. It's even been on TV.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #20 November 8, 2003 who gives a shit, let's skydive! If mike can get me to altitude quick I don't give a rat's ass about what he did or did not do in his past! (havn't jumped his jumpship yet but looking DAMN foward to it!) --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissMae 0 #21 November 8, 2003 I used to jump out at Coolidge quite a bit when he was out there and honestly he seems like every other person out there. Very cordial and polite and DAMN HIS PLANE IS FAST!!!!!!!! Miss that he is actually not out there anymore. Guess I'll have to go start chasing the boogie circuits and become a real skydiver... Seriously though, I heard about the "dirty secret" and since I had met him before I knew and already based my opinion of him off of my own personal experience then who really gives a shit? take the time to appreciate the people around you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiverRick 0 #22 November 8, 2003 do you think he is guilty? Mike was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, that's good enough for me. I can't wait until the next time I jump his plane. never pull low......unless you are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #23 November 8, 2003 Quotewho gives a shit, let's skydive! *** Ada Boy!www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 8 #24 November 8, 2003 Who are we to pass judgement?? I know that I am in no position to make these decisions, and those who were trusted to judge by the court system (the Jury) acquitted the man - What else do you want? I will never associate with those who commit such crimes. Mike was acquitted - Doesn't that satisfy you? Granted, our justice system is a long way from perfect - but it is all we have - and a LOT more than what you or I have. My .02 -=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jethers203 0 #25 November 8, 2003 Well, I don't know details, but I don't need to. I have jumped his plane a few times and he is one hell of a pilot. I also know one of his sons and a long time family friend that Mike brought up practically as a son. For one, his boys have there shit together and are damn fine people. They were raised that way by Mike. The past is the past and we all know that only celebrities like OJ can get off. Mike was found innocent for a reason. Now, like what was said above, LET'S SKYDIVE!!!!! Clint D-24352 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Unstable 8 #24 November 8, 2003 Who are we to pass judgement?? I know that I am in no position to make these decisions, and those who were trusted to judge by the court system (the Jury) acquitted the man - What else do you want? I will never associate with those who commit such crimes. Mike was acquitted - Doesn't that satisfy you? Granted, our justice system is a long way from perfect - but it is all we have - and a LOT more than what you or I have. My .02 -=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jethers203 0 #25 November 8, 2003 Well, I don't know details, but I don't need to. I have jumped his plane a few times and he is one hell of a pilot. I also know one of his sons and a long time family friend that Mike brought up practically as a son. For one, his boys have there shit together and are damn fine people. They were raised that way by Mike. The past is the past and we all know that only celebrities like OJ can get off. Mike was found innocent for a reason. Now, like what was said above, LET'S SKYDIVE!!!!! Clint D-24352 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
