flyingfencer 0 #1 September 17, 2006 I'm looking at getting this: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/detail_page.cgi?ID=38819&d=1 But would like to put in an aad. How do I know if I should get a 1 or 2-pin system? Would a rigger be able to install this since the ad isnt marked with 'aad-ready?' I'm biased towards vigils bc of the maintenance record so would probably be getting one of those. Also, just as a secondary question, I'm fairly new and this would be my first rig, and it seems like a good place to start. I am a little wary, however, of the characteristics of the main after reading gear reviews. I'm staying away from swooping for a while still, but I'm reading that this canopy type is designed for swooping. Is that a problem? I have experience on a saber2 and a spectre (both 190) and was comfortable on them. So I guess I'm asking would this PD nitron 170 be too much of a downsize? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2cmyzx 0 #2 September 17, 2006 How many jumps total do you have? You will get more replies if you fill in a profile Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingfencer 0 #3 September 17, 2006 updated the profile for yas. As I said I'm a beginner, but I haven't been able to do much wihtout my own rig (renting is difficult at my dz). The previous rigs I used were at another dropzone (had to go off to college) and I obviously don't have access to that anymore. Oh yeah, and don't buy this one out from under me! :p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 2cmyzx 0 #4 September 17, 2006 Your probably not ready for a high performance eliptical at 30 jumps. What is your exit weight with gear? Is that reserve big enough? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 2cmyzx 0 #5 September 17, 2006 I bought a Mirage G3 with a Sabre2 150, Smart reserve also a 150, all less than a year old with 16 total jumps for 2900.00 and thought I got a killer deal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingfencer 0 #6 September 17, 2006 The reserve is definitely big enough. I'm 160# with no gear, I fall fast so I wouldn't ever be wearing weights either. How does the flying differ for an elliptical? With small inputs wouldn't it be possible to get used to it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites councilman24 36 #7 September 17, 2006 QuoteThe reserve is definitely big enough. I'm 160# with no gear, I fall fast so I wouldn't ever be wearing weights either. How does the flying differ for an elliptical? With small inputs wouldn't it be possible to get used to it? The reserve is not necessarily "definitely big enough." At 160# plus gear and clothing you'll be near 190#. While you'll be under the max for the reserve at your experience level you shouldn't be near the max. A loading of 1:1 should be about the limit. Remember, this is a canopy unlike any you've probably ever jumped. It is a NON ZP 7 cell. While only meant to save your life, and perhaps big enough for an experienced jumper, it may not be big enough for you. You should seek the advice of the instructors who know you. With respect, at 30 jumps you don't have "experience" on any canopy. Just because you jumped a particular canopy and size doesn't mean you have experience. It means that you tried it out. Even with hundreds of jumps you can find yourself in situations you have never seen before. Wind, obstacles, traffic, thermals, turbulence, lighting, etc etc makes every jump unique. You have a lot of canopy flight learning to do before you should move to a higher performance canopy. This includes a significantly smaller size on the same style or model canopy. A wing loading of 1:1 on a Sabre 190 is significantly more docile than a wing loading of 1:1 on a 135. I suggest going to Performance Designs web site and read the articles on choosing canopies. I'll let others point you to other articles. And, as said above either this price is a typo or something is drastically wrong.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #8 September 17, 2006 Most containers manufactured within the last ten years are Cypres-ready, BO, freefly friendly, etc. Most other electronic AADs (Argus, Astra and Vigil) will fit into Cypres pockets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingfencer 0 #9 September 17, 2006 Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
flyingfencer 0 #3 September 17, 2006 updated the profile for yas. As I said I'm a beginner, but I haven't been able to do much wihtout my own rig (renting is difficult at my dz). The previous rigs I used were at another dropzone (had to go off to college) and I obviously don't have access to that anymore. Oh yeah, and don't buy this one out from under me! :p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2cmyzx 0 #4 September 17, 2006 Your probably not ready for a high performance eliptical at 30 jumps. What is your exit weight with gear? Is that reserve big enough? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2cmyzx 0 #5 September 17, 2006 I bought a Mirage G3 with a Sabre2 150, Smart reserve also a 150, all less than a year old with 16 total jumps for 2900.00 and thought I got a killer deal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingfencer 0 #6 September 17, 2006 The reserve is definitely big enough. I'm 160# with no gear, I fall fast so I wouldn't ever be wearing weights either. How does the flying differ for an elliptical? With small inputs wouldn't it be possible to get used to it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites councilman24 36 #7 September 17, 2006 QuoteThe reserve is definitely big enough. I'm 160# with no gear, I fall fast so I wouldn't ever be wearing weights either. How does the flying differ for an elliptical? With small inputs wouldn't it be possible to get used to it? The reserve is not necessarily "definitely big enough." At 160# plus gear and clothing you'll be near 190#. While you'll be under the max for the reserve at your experience level you shouldn't be near the max. A loading of 1:1 should be about the limit. Remember, this is a canopy unlike any you've probably ever jumped. It is a NON ZP 7 cell. While only meant to save your life, and perhaps big enough for an experienced jumper, it may not be big enough for you. You should seek the advice of the instructors who know you. With respect, at 30 jumps you don't have "experience" on any canopy. Just because you jumped a particular canopy and size doesn't mean you have experience. It means that you tried it out. Even with hundreds of jumps you can find yourself in situations you have never seen before. Wind, obstacles, traffic, thermals, turbulence, lighting, etc etc makes every jump unique. You have a lot of canopy flight learning to do before you should move to a higher performance canopy. This includes a significantly smaller size on the same style or model canopy. A wing loading of 1:1 on a Sabre 190 is significantly more docile than a wing loading of 1:1 on a 135. I suggest going to Performance Designs web site and read the articles on choosing canopies. I'll let others point you to other articles. And, as said above either this price is a typo or something is drastically wrong.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #8 September 17, 2006 Most containers manufactured within the last ten years are Cypres-ready, BO, freefly friendly, etc. Most other electronic AADs (Argus, Astra and Vigil) will fit into Cypres pockets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingfencer 0 #9 September 17, 2006 Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
flyingfencer 0 #6 September 17, 2006 The reserve is definitely big enough. I'm 160# with no gear, I fall fast so I wouldn't ever be wearing weights either. How does the flying differ for an elliptical? With small inputs wouldn't it be possible to get used to it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #7 September 17, 2006 QuoteThe reserve is definitely big enough. I'm 160# with no gear, I fall fast so I wouldn't ever be wearing weights either. How does the flying differ for an elliptical? With small inputs wouldn't it be possible to get used to it? The reserve is not necessarily "definitely big enough." At 160# plus gear and clothing you'll be near 190#. While you'll be under the max for the reserve at your experience level you shouldn't be near the max. A loading of 1:1 should be about the limit. Remember, this is a canopy unlike any you've probably ever jumped. It is a NON ZP 7 cell. While only meant to save your life, and perhaps big enough for an experienced jumper, it may not be big enough for you. You should seek the advice of the instructors who know you. With respect, at 30 jumps you don't have "experience" on any canopy. Just because you jumped a particular canopy and size doesn't mean you have experience. It means that you tried it out. Even with hundreds of jumps you can find yourself in situations you have never seen before. Wind, obstacles, traffic, thermals, turbulence, lighting, etc etc makes every jump unique. You have a lot of canopy flight learning to do before you should move to a higher performance canopy. This includes a significantly smaller size on the same style or model canopy. A wing loading of 1:1 on a Sabre 190 is significantly more docile than a wing loading of 1:1 on a 135. I suggest going to Performance Designs web site and read the articles on choosing canopies. I'll let others point you to other articles. And, as said above either this price is a typo or something is drastically wrong.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #8 September 17, 2006 Most containers manufactured within the last ten years are Cypres-ready, BO, freefly friendly, etc. Most other electronic AADs (Argus, Astra and Vigil) will fit into Cypres pockets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
