gjhdiver 0 #176 May 18, 2007 Of all the things JP was, he was one of the best parents I ever saw. Him and Corrine have raised two very smart kids. He doted on them, and they loved him right back. As hard as this is for us, it's going to be harder for them to understand why the man they loved left them. They can't understand the demons he fought, and there's no way that they should at their age. We have to remember Yvette and Camille long after the hurt has faded for us and real life has let us move on. The man that they need to help them through the rough world of being teenagers won't be there to shepherd them and protect them. We need to remember them year by year, and take up the slack if needed. We have to remind them how much their dad loved them, and how much he didn't want them hurt, not just now, but in the years to come when they miss him the most. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #177 May 18, 2007 QuoteQuote "I want a do over." Me too! Exactly. I'm kinda weird in that I frequently envision/wish myself in circumstances or places (even hundreds of years anachronistically) so I can change things or experience things. I wish I could be in that car and then headbutt him, punch him in the face, bite his arm/hand or whatever I needed to do to get the gun out of his hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #178 May 18, 2007 That is beautiful, Bonnie.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #179 May 18, 2007 Keep reminding us...we'll need it long after the initial mourning is over. We're bad like that. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasquared 0 #180 May 19, 2007 QuoteWe have to remember Yvette and Camille long after the hurt has faded for us and real life has let us move on. The man that they need to help them through the rough world of being teenagers won't be there to shepherd them and protect them. We need to remember them year by year, and take up the slack if needed. We have to remind them how much their dad loved them, and how much he didn't want them hurt, not just now, but in the years to come when they miss him the most. Unfortunately, from personal experience I can relate all too well. What gjhdiver said is very much on the mark. Long after the hurt has faded and real life has understandably moved on for others, the family will still be numb and hurting. I call it the "invisible scar." Life has moved on, time has gone by and we are supposed to be "better" so we act "better" on the outside, but inside we are far from it. It takes a long time to even start feeling better and there are a lot of highs and lows that go along with that. For those of you that are close to Corrine and the girls, stay in touch with them. The connection, care, understanding of their grief will be appreciated more than you may realize and I'm pretty certain of that. Sincere condolences to the family and close friends of Deuce. And to JP, in the words of Mother Love Bone, "life is what you make it, and if you make it death, then rest your soul." If you happen to run into my brother somewhere, give him one of your famous hugs for me... AW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdobleman 0 #181 May 19, 2007 I also live 15 minutes from the church. If anyone needs a place to stay, I have a spare bed and 2 comfortable couches. madjohn IM or phone (925) 679-0454 cell (925) 550-8541 Main goals in life: Be on the "Jumpers Over Eighty" (JOE) World Record and attend the Lost Prairie Boogie once after I'm gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aprilcat 0 #182 May 20, 2007 Life is fragile and I truly hope he has found the peace he sought. Its so sad. so VERY sad, but it will be between him and his Maker. Rest in Peace, Deuce, you've touched more people than you know. To the family and extended family, peace, love and heartfelt understanding. ~~April Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #183 May 21, 2007 All, I just wanted to let you all know what the funeral arrangements are, in case you are interested in coming. The info is at the bottom of this page: http://www.traditioncare.com/sitemaker/sites/tradit0/obit.cgi?user=jkelly Thanks, Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #184 May 21, 2007 I'll see you there Iwan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigben 0 #185 May 22, 2007 I'll be driving from San Francisco in the morning if anyone wants a ride. -Ben Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #186 May 22, 2007 Wow. Sad and shocking. He will be missed. Last time I spoke with him he was proudly showing me pictures of his girls and telling me all about them. My heart goes out to the family he left behind. peace karenhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #187 May 22, 2007 Quote All, I just wanted to let you all know what the funeral arrangements are, in case you are interested in coming. The info is at the bottom of this page: http://www.traditioncare.com/sitemaker/sites/tradit0/obit.cgi?user=jkelly Thanks, Iwan If it was at all possible, I'd be there. Unfortunately, it's just not. I will light a candle to St. Michael for JP up here at St. Vincent's or St. John's...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness 0 #188 May 22, 2007 Reading all these posts, it's not hard to tell JP -like Shannon- meant so much to so many of you and he must have been a wonderful person. I'm thinking of you all, of his girls and his wife, and I'm hoping and wishing his soul is at peace and flying free ... "Ha ! I laugh at danger and drop ice cubes down the vest of fear ..." (Blackadder) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeatherB 0 #189 May 23, 2007 He drove into oncoming traffic first? If that's the case, it's lucky he didn't kill anyone else too. Sorry to be blunt -- the whole thing is definitely sad -- but it's one thing that came to mind when I read the story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivexxl 0 #190 May 23, 2007 This was a condolence thread. Nice work. Blog Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #191 May 23, 2007 QuoteThis was a condolence thread. Nice work. Others might express emotion and cope with loss differently than you. Seems to me that Heather was just posing a curious question to try to understand what happened and that's okay. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeatherB 0 #192 May 23, 2007 QuoteThis was a condolence thread. Nice work. Sorry you took offense to my comments. I'm shocked about the incident to begin with but I was also just so surprised to read about the way he chose to do it -- with the possibility of taking out somebody else with him. But then again, I have no personal understanding of suicidal thoughts. I only knew JP from my days at Sunrise. He was one of my nicest customers. Great to work with and always appreciative. I do feel badly for his wife and girls...I can't imagine the depth of their loss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #193 May 23, 2007 QuoteQuoteThis was a condolence thread. Nice work. Sorry you took offense to my comments. I'm shocked about the incident to begin with but I was also just so surprised to read about the way he chose to do it -- with the possibility of taking out somebody else with him. I know a little bit more about it than I'm prepared to post here. Suffice it to say that he wasn't tryng to kill himself with an auto accident. It was just that after that accident, events spiralled out of control for him. He would never have tried to hurt someone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeatherB 0 #194 May 23, 2007 QuoteI know a little bit more about it than I'm prepared to post here. Suffice it to say that he wasn't tryng to kill himself with an auto accident. It was just that after that accident, events spiralled out of control for him. He would never have tried to hurt someone else. Got it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #195 May 23, 2007 Aw christ...~J "One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
