Guest #151 October 9, 2007 Press conference scheduled for 0900 PT. That's right now. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #152 October 9, 2007 Press conference stream...for those at work... Click "watch live" http://www.komotv.com/#- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin 0 #153 October 9, 2007 I haven't been up to Skydive Snohomish in quite a while, but this is very difficult to hear... BSBD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydvrblonde 0 #154 October 9, 2007 Here's a picture of Phil, the pilot, a good friend of mine. He was our "local" pilot last summer at Skydive Lost Prairie. (here he is pictured with our plane, 71T, which crashed in May). So sad kids. I've lost too many friends and family this year...Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #155 October 9, 2007 watching the news conference on NW cable news right now - this just sucks DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #156 October 9, 2007 From reading the first reports of the crash site, and the fact that the tail isn't there, I have a feeling that they may find that the plane suffered a catastropic failiure in flight. That would maybe explain the rapid descent and the lack of an emergency call. It might also explain why the ELT failed to transmit, as they are commonly located in the tail section of aircraft. They are describing the debris field as fairly compacted and localized, so the missing tail section is a huge red flag. I have a feeling that when they find the tail, they will find the missing jumpers nearby, or at least have some kind of a track to follow to try to locate them. I hope that they do find them. I'd hate to think of them as being unrecovered in that wilderness, for their families and our communities sake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #157 October 9, 2007 Kelly looked good. He has strength through adversity. I don't think that I have met his parents or sister, but they seemed to be holding on very well. My God I can't imagine how one would even begin processing the loss of a brother...EDIT: Just a point of clarification: it was Kelly Craig on the news, not Kelly Farrington for those that have asked. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
htrammel 0 #158 October 9, 2007 QuoteFrom reading the first reports of the crash site, and the fact that the tail isn't there, I have a feeling that they may find that the plane suffered a catastropic failiure in flight. That would maybe explain the rapid descent and the lack of an emergency call. It might also explain why the ELT failed to transmit, as they are commonly located in the tail section of aircraft. They are describing the debris field as fairly compacted and localized, so the missing tail section is a huge red flag. I have a feeling that when they find the tail, they will find the missing jumpers nearby, or at least have some kind of a track to follow to try to locate them. I hope that they do find them. I'd hate to think of them as being unrecovered in that wilderness, for their families and our communities sake. Gareth - I agree that it sounds like it could have been an in-flight break-up. Does anyone know what the weather conditions were at the time? BSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #159 October 9, 2007 my heart goes out to all the families and this community. It hurts. Fly free, blue skiesSkymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treefrogplf 0 #160 October 9, 2007 My heart goes out to friends and families. OUr community has felt a huge loss and the heart is heavy for all. We have all suffered a loss and the victims will be in the air with is forever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 19 #161 October 9, 2007 A quick reminder to the entire community here, the press will be coming here if they have not already been here looking for comments and quotes to use. Please try to keep this in mind as you are posting. Don't post anything that you would not like printed in a newspaper or talked about on TV. As names are released threads for condolences will be appearing in the Blue Skies forum. Please post your condolences and memories of these jumpers there so that we can remember each one of them better. Please feel free to start threads there if any names have been officially released already.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 263 #162 October 9, 2007 Quote Some of them had been at Prairie.. A big group of Seattleites were our neighbors up in Byron Heights. Hoping against hope that none of them were on that plane... but I think I know better... BSBD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #163 October 9, 2007 IT was a pretty stormy weekend here and there is lots of new snow up in the Cascades.. 30 to 40 degrees o the ground probably quite a bit colder up at 13000 where they were flying. Going over the White Pass area most of the peaks are under 9000 ft elevation but just to the north of White Pass is Mt Rainier at 14,410. I have been on some of these flights in the past and we have always come back the same route more or less. Whenever I was looing out the windows I always had that thought of what it would take to survive a crash up there.. just my background... trying to form a plan in my mind even if I could not implement it. I am not sure if they had the regular door in place but when I have gone on a couple of these trips.. the standard door is reinstalled and the jump door is rolled all the way up inside untill you get to the destination and offload the seats and doors etc and reconfigure the airplane for jump operations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivermom 0 #164 October 9, 2007 I know all of us wanted to hear something a lot different I'm so sorry. Mrs. WaltAppel All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #165 October 9, 2007 QuoteA quick reminder to the entire community here, the press will be coming here if they have not already been here looking for comments and quotes to use. Please try to keep this in mind as you are posting. Don't post anything that you would not like printed in a newspaper or talked about on TV. What he said. Someone at the Seattle Times tracked down my cell phone number and left me a voicemail last night. I haven't a clue why they'd contact me, and since I have nothing to say to them, I'm not answering calls from strange phone numbers today. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #166 October 9, 2007 Yeah really... and they are hitting up the MYSPACE site as well looking for information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boffin 0 #167 October 9, 2007 Never jumped out there, but I still feel that anyone that skydives is a brother of mine, and it has really hurt to hear this story. It is a sad day when something like this occurs. Thoughts and prayers go out to all of you. ~Blue Skies~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #168 October 9, 2007 My heart goes out to the families and friends of those involved. I just heard about this from a co-worker... not a pleasant morning at all. Blue skies friends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpah 0 #169 October 9, 2007 I'm so saddened to hear about this...my thoughts and best wishes out to the family and friends of those on this flight. BSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #170 October 9, 2007 This is the inevitable nature of aviation... BSBD "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #171 October 9, 2007 Good insight as to the catastrophic failure. I was thinking icing, as Caravans have a propensity to do that and have no de-icing capabilities. Maybe we should leave our packs on when travelling cross-country, even if loosely. Sad to think that all could have been saved by wearing their chutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #172 October 9, 2007 QuoteMaybe we should leave our packs on when travelling cross-country, even if loosely. Sad to think that all could have been saved by wearing their chutes. Your thinking is wrong! Get educated.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #173 October 9, 2007 QuoteFrom reading the first reports of the crash site, and the fact that the tail isn't there, I have a feeling that they may find that the plane suffered a catastropic failiure in flight. That would maybe explain the rapid descent and the lack of an emergency call. I'm thinking the same thing, and a nose-dive would be consistent with the behavior of the Caravan that got its tail taken off by a premie a couple of years ago in Austriala. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #174 October 9, 2007 To Quote from Amazons earlier post: QuoteI am not sure if they had the regular door in place but when I have gone on a couple of these trips.. the standard door is reinstalled and the jump door is rolled all the way up inside untill you get to the destination and offload the seats and doors etc and reconfigure the airplane for jump operations. I am not sure if that would have made a differance. It does you no good to wear a rig if you cant get out the door. I have never been on a caravan with a regular door, I dont know how easy it would be to get that door open in an in flight emergency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydvrblonde 0 #175 October 9, 2007 Quote Sad to think that all could have been saved by wearing their chutes. I thought about this a bit, too, but you must realize, if the pilot was doing his best, but still diving fast, no one could have exited, the force is too great. aaahh poop.Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
