thedarkside 0 #1 May 29, 2006 A friend of mine just got a new Icon with a Pilot main (169) Has anyone had experence with this main and Psyco packing? This is the way that I pack my safire 2 and it makes it much easier with new canopies. I don't want to give him bad advice if it's not recomended. Thanks! -- JohanKeep going faster until the joy of speed overcomes the fear of death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #2 May 29, 2006 I was trying when my was new. It does not help. Its slippery from silicone. You may check this You may find textual description among my posts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tb182 0 #3 May 29, 2006 Psycho packed a 188, opened great Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slurp56 0 #4 May 30, 2006 QuoteI was trying when my was new. It does not help. Its slippery from silicone. You may check this You may find textual description among my posts. Doesn't look like a pyscho pack to me... You dont actually "pack" the canopy different between PRO or pyscho packing, you just bag it differently. It if were my personal canopy, I'd pyscho pack it, thats what seems to work for me.________________________________________ I have proof-read this post 500 times, but I guarantee you'll still manage to find a flaw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ldskydiver 0 #5 May 30, 2006 I have a Pilot 150 that I started to psyco pack after about 5 pro pack jobs that were very difficult to bag. It definately goes in the bag better and I can tell no difference on openings. All the openings have been sweet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #6 May 30, 2006 I believe Fergs psycho packs his pilot. He only does wingsuit jumps so I imagine the openings should be good. He may see this thread and post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #7 May 30, 2006 I use a modified pro/Psyco pack. I put it on the ground just like a pro pack, but where most folks "S" fold I roll it. Works like a champ. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFlyer 0 #8 May 30, 2006 QuoteI use a modified pro/Psyco pack. I put it on the ground just like a pro pack, but where most folks "S" fold I roll it. Works like a champ. Yup, thats exactly what I do aswell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fergs 0 #9 May 30, 2006 QuoteI believe Fergs psycho packs his pilot. He only does wingsuit jumps so I imagine the openings should be good. He may see this thread and post. Yep, I've psycho packed 100% of my pack jobs for past 1000 jumps or so. Latest gear is Icon with a Pilot main. It always opens soft and on-heading. I especially love psycho for new canopies as it goes into the bag so nicely. Remember that most manufacturers do not recommend psycho, so if you choose to use it, consider yourself a guinea pig (whilst enjoying the ease of packing and nice openings, ha). Blue Skies, fergs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrairieDoug 0 #10 May 30, 2006 I psycho pack my Pilot 168, but no one who has seen me pack would take any comfort from that. Doug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedarkside 0 #11 May 30, 2006 Thank you everyone for a reply!! I'll be sure to relay the message to my friend, since I'll have to teach him how to pack. I started to Psyco pack when I had my Saber 2 due to a constant off heading openings. Believe it or not it was a fix! Then I bought a Safire 2 which the factory recomends the psyco. I currently have a crossfire 2 (Also made my Icarus) which recomended against the it. That is why I was asking about the Pilot. I wasn't sure if maybe there was something with the design of the wing that would make this packing style not feasable. Thanks to everyone again!! -- JohanKeep going faster until the joy of speed overcomes the fear of death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artbel 0 #12 May 30, 2006 Sorry for my ignorance but is the difference between Pro and Psyco packing? Greetz ArtbelYou don't need a parachute to jump but YOU DO if want to do it again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattyblast 0 #13 May 30, 2006 The difference, as I understand it (which doesn't say a heckuva lot--look at my profile ), is: Psycho pack is similar to the pro-pack up until the point where you place the fan-shaped blob on the floor. With the psycho pack, you flip the canopy over at that point so that the side that's normally against the floor is facing upward. Then, instead of bunching or folding the "wings" of the "fan" underneath the canopy (like with the pro-pack), you criss-cross the ends of the fan and make them overlap each other to reduce the size of the "fan." Then fold the ends inward so that the canopy is the width of the d-bag. Then roll it up like a sleeping bag (with the bridle sticking out the side of it) and stuff into the d-bag, making sure the grommets face up rather than down. Then flip the stuffed bag back over again, making sure you flip/rotate it the opposite way you did when putting the canopy on the floor in the first place. Then continue as usual. But a picture's worth a thousand words. Here's a link on Precison Aerodynamics' website that shows a video of somebody doing this in about 60 seconds: http://www.precision.aero/packing/mvc-002v.mpg"DOOR!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shoot 0 #14 May 30, 2006 The difference is only in the way you put the canopy in the bag. in short: PRO = S-fold PSYCHO = rolling http://www.icaruscanopies.aero/canopies/Safire/packing.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 May 30, 2006 How you get it in the bag, from what I can tell....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #16 May 31, 2006 Yes! The greatest difference between PRO-packing and psycho-packing is the way you fold or roll it into the deployment bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedarkside 0 #17 May 31, 2006 The Icarus site a great place to start (If you want to learn) This is the way that I do it. There are differnt methods. I still flake out my canopy like I'm going to PRO pack. When I lay it down I induce half a line twist. (Lay it down with the nose up) Cross the tail and then roll it up, like you roll your sleeping bag to get it to fit in the carrying bag. Keeping the bridle clear off to the side. then I turn my d-bag upside down and put the canopy in. here comes the tricky part. I need to turn the d-bag the opposite way that I layed the canopy down. To get out the half twist that I induced earlier. If I turn the d-bag the wrong way...guess what, I just packed myrself a full line twist. That's about it. I have found it a great way to pack a new canopy because you are rolling out all of the air. It doesn't have a chance to re-inflate on you when your trying to stuff it into the bag. It's a quick and clean way to pack. Please do not try this for the first time until you know for sure it's OK with YOUR canopy and have guidance with someone who is proficient with packing this method...Hope this helps! -- JohanKeep going faster until the joy of speed overcomes the fear of death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #18 June 1, 2006 I have always psycho packed my Sabre 170. I have not had a hard opening that far, with over 120 jumps on it. And thats an original Sabre! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
