pete2005 0 #1 May 18, 2006 some time ago i buy my toy-katana 97 and i loaded it at about 1.75.Everything was perfect until one day during front riser turn start buffeting, so a change the steering lines(they was 21 cm too short)and then start the problems.Ive got hard openings withs line twist almost every opening etc, front riser pressure increase like 100% and recovery was at least 2 times faster.Everything after only 250 jumps.Why PD make katana witch 650 lbs microline not with vectran or HMA(like mamba form aerodyne)?It realy peasing off changing the lines every 300 jumps and also cost a lot of money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nbblood 0 #2 May 18, 2006 They've got HMA lines now. If you send it in for a reline they will put HMA lines on it.Blues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntacfreefly 0 #3 May 18, 2006 QuoteIt realy peasing off changing the lines every 300 jumps 1) People should be better about their gear maintenance anyway. 300 jumps is low but EVERY spectra canopy should be relined every 400 jumps PERIOD. By then the lines are so out of trim that the canopy doesnt fly anything like it used to. 2) The Katana has been available with HMA for a few months now (as stated prior). Call PD and they'll reline it for you. Everyone I know who's had the HMA put on has been really happy with the consistency it brings. Be aware though - you will still have to replace the lines for scheduled maintenance. They will just stay in trim specs far better for the life of the line. 3) Call PD. They're always helpful and would have given you this info if you simply called and asked them. Why people come here as a first resort is beyond me. At least TRY and contact a manufacturer first before bitching about them. Blues, IanTo the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #4 May 19, 2006 QuoteWhy PD make katana witch 650 lbs microline not with vectran or HMA(like Mamba form Aerodyne)?It realy peasing off changing the lines every 300 jumps and also cost a lot of money Did you know any of this before you bought the canopy? If you did why are you "peasing off". If you didn't shame on you.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #5 May 19, 2006 Which part of the steering lines you changed ? Brake to Toggle or the whole Lower Steering Lines & the Brake to Toggle as a kit ? Does the new steering lines came from PD ? We have here at our DZ a KA97 with microlines & more jumps without any problem. Now all KA canopies arrives with HMA. PD is testing materials from A to Z & only if they passed all tests they will be moved into the market. Safe Rigging !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete2005 0 #6 May 20, 2006 QuoteWhich part of the steering lines you changed ? Hi i change whole Lower Steering Line & the Brake to Toggle as a kit ,and the steereng lines doesnt come from PD(local rigger make it).I would like to say sorry to PD and others- i didnt know that katana is avaliable also with HMA,I should spoke to the PD first before bitchingMy lines get out of trim extremly fast (250 jumps)but i think is because i jump in very dusty DZ.I order already new line set but again microline-i didnt know about HMA,and now is too late regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kolla 0 #7 May 20, 2006 Hi Pete! We all live and learn - and us manufacturers completely understand that sometime it is easier to log on dz.com than to get in touch with us - especially with the time difference between Spain and the US :) Please check your PM too ;) Dropzone.com can for sure be a good place to find information, but with any gear related problems I strongly encourage jumpers to contact the manufacturer with as much detail as possible. We want you to be happy with your gear - and we can often help set things straight quickly. Blue Skies, Kolla Kolbeinsdottir Performance Designs, IncBlue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ALI69 0 #8 May 23, 2006 I'll take every bet that you are not the only one with this or similar problem. I'm just really wondering that PD during their thousands and thousands of testjumps hasn't figured out that spectra lines have no business on a high perfomance canopy. Other manufacturers seem to know that... On the other hand ,spectra is a much cheaper material and manufacturers also make money on lineset's... So for how long will the HMA line set last? I'd say 200 max 300 jumps unless you want to risk a line break.If you land mostly on a dusty / sandy landing area I'd put on 200 jumps max. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Kolla 0 #7 May 20, 2006 Hi Pete! We all live and learn - and us manufacturers completely understand that sometime it is easier to log on dz.com than to get in touch with us - especially with the time difference between Spain and the US :) Please check your PM too ;) Dropzone.com can for sure be a good place to find information, but with any gear related problems I strongly encourage jumpers to contact the manufacturer with as much detail as possible. We want you to be happy with your gear - and we can often help set things straight quickly. Blue Skies, Kolla Kolbeinsdottir Performance Designs, IncBlue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALI69 0 #8 May 23, 2006 I'll take every bet that you are not the only one with this or similar problem. I'm just really wondering that PD during their thousands and thousands of testjumps hasn't figured out that spectra lines have no business on a high perfomance canopy. Other manufacturers seem to know that... On the other hand ,spectra is a much cheaper material and manufacturers also make money on lineset's... So for how long will the HMA line set last? I'd say 200 max 300 jumps unless you want to risk a line break.If you land mostly on a dusty / sandy landing area I'd put on 200 jumps max. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
