billvon 2,396 #26 January 3, 2008 >What behavior do we over look in the name of "Oh, their a fellow >skydiver that's ok"? ?? Nothing. I don't overlook anything because someone is a skydiver. I often understand my friends better than strangers, and I (for some strange reason) have a lot of friends who are skydivers. And if I know someone well I am a lot more likely to go to them first before going to someone else. The crazy guy who screams in the canyon at night? If he were running around throwing rocks at cars I'd probably call the cops. If it was Paul Quade? I'd probably ask him what the fuck he was doing before calling anyone else. (Note - Paul Quade was just an example! As far as I know he doesn't run around throwing rocks.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #27 January 3, 2008 Miss ya RL SC is a little boring without you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #28 January 3, 2008 Quote (Note - Paul Quade was just an example! As far as I know he doesn't run around throwing rocks.) Try looking in your rear view mirror next time you pull out of the parking lot @ PVA......you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #29 January 3, 2008 If it was Paul you might want to call the cops anyways, since he's flat twisted off and unless your electric bike doubles as a taser, you might be in trouble. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #30 January 3, 2008 Spence: What does it matter where "we" draw the line. It's where "Spence" draws the line that should be important to you. If anyone were to persecute you for your beliefs, I'm sure that you would ensure there is enough evidence to convict. Don't let others draw your lines. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #31 January 3, 2008 How about, around your midsection?? .............."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #32 January 3, 2008 Quote I have spent the last few years trying to be everyones friend because they were skydivers. I've put up with some people that I would not invite to my house. And yet somehow - Some way - I still goit that opportunity.You never let me inside - But - I still got invited - if only by proxy.. . . . . . . RE: Subject - Drawing the line - Anywhere you feel it is appropriate and it works for you.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #33 January 4, 2008 I read that post and before I could reply it got gone. However, I agree wholeheartedly with your original post concerning his behavior and would turn him in in a heartbeat. Anytime someone places another's life in harm's way, he needs to be held accountable, legally. In fact, if I knew for certain that he was at Walterboro (not far from where I used to live and still have friends there) I'd send a pic to my friends and have them watch for him. As soon as he showed up, they would call the authorities. After all, it's OUR community that should be protected from rogue elements. That's the bottom line. As for me, I hold your opinion in the highest regard and it has nothing to do with how long you have been in the sport or how many jumps you have but how I percieve your integrity. Peanut4040 stated that you should keep yourself to yourself but it seems that he interjected himself into the mess, also. Maybe he needs to take his own advice, huh?? TripleF "Upon seeing the shadow of a pigeon, one must resist the urge to look up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #34 January 4, 2008 I don't think I could say it any better than you did, or waltappel, or normiss.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #35 January 4, 2008 Damn good post! I still don't know why the other thread got deleted tho.. I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #36 January 4, 2008 I wonder if the shit will hit the fan again late tonight? I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #37 January 4, 2008 QuoteI still don't know why the other thread got deleted tho.. Because the thread was started under an alias.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #38 January 4, 2008 Quote Miss ya RL SC is a little boring without you You're the best, Jeanne, and I have no doubt you're still winning the argument in every thread with which you grace your presence. :) rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #39 January 4, 2008 That would explain why I can't get answers as to who it is. Thank you Skymama! Keep up the good work. You rock! I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #40 January 4, 2008 Quote You're the best, Jeanne, and I have no doubt you're still winning the argument in every thread with which you grace your presence. :) Awww Heck.. I just like to argue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #41 January 4, 2008 Skydivers are people like anyone else. Drug users, bitches, assholes, great people, there are all walks of life in this sport. I think it's a bit silly to have special rules for skydiver to skydiver confrontation or otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #42 January 4, 2008 Quote Quote You're the best, Jeanne, and I have no doubt you're still winning the argument in every thread with which you grace your presence. :) Awww Heck.. I just like to argue AND! Give great hugs. Hope to see ya again someday.I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #43 January 4, 2008 Come west old man.....We have some purty good tymes out cheer toooo ya know.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #44 January 4, 2008 Quote Come west old man.....We have some purty good tymes out cheer toooo ya know.. Some day.... Wait.. Who you callin old? I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 0 #45 January 4, 2008 Quote I think it's a bit silly to have special rules for skydiver to skydiver confrontation or otherwise. ...the individual/collective societal "clique" I am trying to think of a coralation.... ummm like a certain number of cops have their "Blue Code of honor"? or perhaps this, an office of 12 people and then this other office worker that is outcasted?? i dunno, its late, been a long ass day, I could be way off ... But i dont care if you all don't care! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 January 4, 2008 Well dont wait too long.... this year has pointed out the need to not postpone things.. because you just might not be here tomorrow.. and that applies to ALL of us Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #47 January 4, 2008 Quote Well dont wait too long.... this year has pointed out the need to not postpone things.. because you just might not be here tomorrow.. and that applies to ALL of us I did my first jump March 2004. I will say this year has been the worst for me in the skydiving world. I'm glad it has not been so in my personal world. Stay as safe as you can..I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auburnguy 0 #48 January 4, 2008 QuoteI'm told that I was chastised last night after I went to bed for a post I made in the Walterboro thread. something to the effect that I should leave well enough alone and someone like me should not speak out about a fellow skydiver. I'm paraphrasing because I did not see the post. So my question is, Where do we draw the line? What behavior do we over look in the name of "Oh, their a fellow skydiver that's ok"? We already seem to overlook open drug use. When something is stolen from the DZ, that doesn't seem to be a big concern anymore. I actually heard people chastise Robbie for leaving his laptop out when it got stolen. Looks like assault is ok in some peoples books. I guess it would be ok if someone came and beat me up for typing this. My question again is "Where do we draw the line"? When do you think we should ignore the fact that someone is a skydiver and out them for their behavior? I for one think we should expect more from someone that wants to be "one of us". I don't think we should have to worry about "one of us" stealing our things or hurting our friends. And I damn sure don't think that after this behavior has come to light that these people should be aloud to move around within our community and be accepted with open arms at another DZ. I have spent the last few years trying to be everyones friend because they were skydivers. I've put up with some people that I would not invite to my house. I have decided not to do that anymore. As for those that don't agree with me, we can either agree to disagree or agree not to associate anymore. I don't care which. I completely agree with everything you said. Spot on. What I don't get is why DZO's are tolerant of drug use on their premises. I would think that would open them up to massive legal liability if anyone gets hurt as a result of someone using drugs. As well as if the cops end up on a DZ at night and find drugs, that could end up earning a DZ a bad reputation among the community. Not as bad as a skyride place (zing!) but close."If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #49 January 4, 2008 Quote Awww Heck.. I just like to argue You??? I've always known you to be a quiet wallflower Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #50 January 4, 2008 Quote I completely agree with everything you said. Spot on. What I don't get is why DZO's are tolerant of drug use on their premises. I would think that would open them up to massive legal liability if anyone gets hurt as a result of someone using drugs. As well as if the cops end up on a DZ at night and find drugs, that could end up earning a DZ a bad reputation among the community. Not as bad as a skyride place (zing!) but close. No to mention the bullshit forfeiture laws... I don't think *any* DZO would willingly risk losing his plane over a couple people sneaking out to smoke dope in it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
