FlyinDawg 0 #1 January 24, 2008 http://manifestmaster.com/parachutist/big1980_02.jpgFlyin' Dawg or SkyDog "To understand is to forgive, even oneself." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylor.freefall 0 #2 January 24, 2008 I have, it's an old trick that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #3 January 24, 2008 For ten points - who drew that?Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 January 25, 2008 Pat Works.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #5 January 25, 2008 Quote For ten points - who drew that? " Paul Bond ... a skydiver and commercial artist in DesPlains, IL. He first envisioned this 12-way 'planet' after seeing films on TV of the first 50-way at Elsinore, CA..." How do I collect my points?HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #6 January 25, 2008 see belowNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #7 January 25, 2008 Howard, you may have snuck one in on me; but I "think" JP is right.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #8 January 25, 2008 What will it take to convince you? You can pm me with info on how to collect. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinDawg 0 #9 January 25, 2008 It must be hardest part to form like this during freefall.Flyin' Dawg or SkyDog "To understand is to forgive, even oneself." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #10 January 25, 2008 Sorry JP... I thought you was right. But, Howard provided the inside of the cover. Sure looked like one of Pat's renderings to me.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #11 January 25, 2008 It was at least 2 years before that cover drawing came out that we tried a couple of rollerball dives at Ghoulidge. We tried building a flat formation and then attempted to fold it under on itself to form the round shape. Those two dives ended up in many thousands of feet of assholes and armpits funneling. We also tried rolling a formation out the door that grip-shifted into a round ball, but that failed too, and we went back to flat flying. I still think it could be done, especially nowadays when more people have experience flying vertically and inverted. If a group like Arizona Airspeed decided to do it, it would get done in a few tries. (Editted to add this part) After thinking about this a bit more, I recall a jumper named Matt Farmer, who organized a lot of dives at Ghoulidge back when I had just showed up there, tried to do the rollerball dive too. Seems his design had 12 to 15 jumpers in it. I was on one of the tries. It didn't work then either. We managed to build the basic flat formation, but when we tried to fold it around into a ball, it began to spin until the centripetal forces tore it apart.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iceburner 0 #12 January 25, 2008 i think that would be cool as hell to see, but what about the burbles?? ever see the kids toy that would go from flat to planet like kinda like the picture looks...wonder if there's a way to start off flat and "expand" to make the planet formation?? what do i know, the most time i spend belly flying is doing a tandem video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 January 25, 2008 Quote Sorry JP... I thought you was right. But, Howard provided the inside of the cover. Sure looked like one of Pat's renderings to me. Well we learn something new every day, don't we?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #14 January 25, 2008 Quote What will it take to convince you? You can pm me with info on how to collect. HW Lesson to be learned? Don't F**** with Howard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 January 25, 2008 Quote Quote What will it take to convince you? You can pm me with info on how to collect. HW Lesson to be learned? Don't F**** with Howard. Or anybody as old as he or airtwardo! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #16 January 25, 2008 We tried one like that in Houston, but after that came out. Same result; impressively massive funnel. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #17 January 25, 2008 Well, speaking of old... The same issue of Parachutist had a feature on "Skydiving in the '80s," featuring little quotes from folks (some of them still around) looking to the future. Some of the ideas are a little weird, some prescient. Here are some samples. (More in next.) HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #18 January 25, 2008 As dz.com seems to be limited to five attachments per messages, here are the rest of the '80s predictions. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 January 25, 2008 Some very interesting comments and predictions there! Thanks for the look back in time. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #20 January 25, 2008 My personal favorite is Chet Poland's prediction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #21 January 25, 2008 Quote My personal favorite is Chet Poland's prediction. Mine is the one about the USPA's Board being more in touch with the skydiving public. Right on the money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites