Shotgun 1 #26 January 29, 2008 QuoteUsing a bong removes a lot of the nasties. You can also buy "carcinogen offsets" now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #27 January 29, 2008 Well, I heard my trusted radio station have a preview to their news report coming up while i was in my car. I never listed to the rest but am sure it has been proven and will probably make network news if it was on this station. There must be something for them to go nationalwide in this country. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caspar 0 #28 January 29, 2008 yep its true, i read it in new scientist. i dont have the article to hand but it was pretty specific. weed is way worse for SOME carcinogens than ciggarettes and not so for others but overall is worse than cigarettes. edit: im a die hard new scientist fan, so if they print it...i'll probably believe it."When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #29 January 29, 2008 I'm sure that there is some truth to what you heard on the news; I was just saying that I don't think it's the whole story. It certainly seems that (percentage-wise) cigarette smokers get lung cancer a lot more than marijuana smokers do. Though I guess with the info you mentioned, you'd have to compare people who smoke one joint a day for x amount of years to the same amount of people who smoke 20 cigs a day for the same number of years, and see how many from each group end up with lung cancer. And (assuming other factors in their lifestyles are reasonably similar) then we might have a better idea of which one is more likely to cause lung cancer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #30 January 29, 2008 Maybe thats what they did? IN Australia and New Zealand alot of people are vocal about smoking pot so they would have some idea of numbers i would think. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiles 0 #31 January 29, 2008 Quote Just heard on the national radio that one joint is equivelant to 20 ciggarattes when it comes to lung cancer. That is interesting. halarious!.....SMiles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #32 January 30, 2008 QuoteMaybe thats what they did? Maybe, but without seeing what sort of research they did, it's hard to know how much validity to give it. From what I've read about "weed being worse than ciggys," it was about them finding more carcinogens in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. But they weren't finding that marijuana smokers got lung cancer more often than tobacco smokers. Which could possibly be explained by the fact that some researchers have found that the THC in marijuana may actually inhibit cancer. Who knows... With any kind of studies involving human health, there are just so many variables that it is pretty much impossible to prove anything with even close to 100% accuracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #33 January 30, 2008 QuoteQuoteUsing a bong removes a lot of the nasties. You can also buy "carcinogen offsets" now. I'm waiting for the crime offsets._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #34 January 30, 2008 QuoteI know they've found that marijuana smoke contains a lot of carcinogens, but they've also found that THC has properties that inhibit the growth of cancer cells. Which might be one of the reasons that marijuana smokers seem to be at less risk for lung cancer than cigarette smokers are (judging by the number who actually get lung cancer). I have read this as well. And I have also read that weed makes cells die quicker and they are unable to reproduce defective cells. But the tar is much heavier in the lungs. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #35 January 30, 2008 A friend of mine is a respiratory therapist. I was surprised to learn that he smoked pot. He said that weed when smoked thru a water pipe actually had some positive benefits and increased the flow of oxygen thru the lungs etc. "The reason angels can fly is that they take themselves so lightly." --GK Chesterton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #36 January 30, 2008 Quote "joints dont have "Filters" which is why they are worse." That's why I use a bong. Smart to admit that on a public forum! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #37 January 30, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteUsing a bong removes a lot of the nasties. You can also buy "carcinogen offsets" now. I'm waiting for the crime offsets. Those with lots of coin already buy those... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #38 January 30, 2008 I suppose it depends how the weed is consumated. Usually it's mixed with tabacco and that smoked without filter I can see is not very healthy. I have heard about a bong being healthier but I am not so sure if the water can absorb the impurities in the gas fast enough to actually have an impact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #39 January 30, 2008 The fact that most weed smokers hold their breath after taking a puff whereas most smokers breathe normally when smoking may have some effect on that.Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #40 January 30, 2008 QuoteSC in 3....2....1... ...1...2...3...4....5...6.....7.......8...........9 Guess notOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #41 January 30, 2008 Quote Weed increases junk food consumption by 420% hmmmmm speaking from experience there Cheesey boy g"Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #42 January 30, 2008 Quote A friend of mine is a respiratory therapist. I was surprised to learn that he smoked pot. He said that weed when smoked thru a water pipe actually had some positive benefits and increased the flow of oxygen thru the lungs etc. That sounds strangely akin to McDonald's posting the nutrition content of chicken McNuggets. Apparently, they ARE healthy! -you can get 100% of your daily intake of potassium if you eat 137 of them. Or sum' like that...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflychris 0 #43 January 30, 2008 So I guess its bad if I drink the bong water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #44 January 30, 2008 Quote So I guess its bad if I drink the bong water. Better you than me.Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #45 January 30, 2008 DOH, weed you hold in as long as you can, there is no filter, but who smokes 20 joints/day? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #46 January 30, 2008 Quote both have negative effects for your health and both smell really bad and each cost you alot of money that you really just burn.. nothing positive to either in my opinion. Ganja does not smell bad. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #47 January 30, 2008 Quote I suppose it depends how the weed is consumated. Usually it's mixed with tabacco and that smoked without filter I can see is not very healthy. I have heard about a bong being healthier but I am not so sure if the water can absorb the impurities in the gas fast enough to actually have an impact. Only Europeans mix weed with tabacco!!!!!!! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #48 January 30, 2008 Quote So I guess its bad if I drink the bong water. I have seen more than one person drink freak'n bong water...... "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #49 January 30, 2008 Quote Quote I suppose it depends how the weed is consumated. Usually it's mixed with tabacco and that smoked without filter I can see is not very healthy. I have heard about a bong being healthier but I am not so sure if the water can absorb the impurities in the gas fast enough to actually have an impact. Only Europeans mix weed with tabacco!!!!!!! And only Europeans consummate their weed. (Sorry, Hausse. We have to poke fun at you. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #50 January 30, 2008 Quote Quote "joints dont have "Filters" which is why they are worse." That's why I use a bong. Smart to admit that on a public forum! That sounds like you dont really mean it? I have no idea why it would be a problem admitting it in a public forum.... It is legal to smoke in many countries these days and also legal to grow. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
