Justlovesit 0 #1 March 16, 2006 I've been skydiving for 3 months now, A guy at my dropzone has offered me a really good deal on a rig. It's a Mirage G3 with a Katana 120 in it. I weigh 145Ibs and have 31 jumps. I'm getting mixed advice, but really want this as it fits perfectly. Is it a good idea? I am a very conservative skydiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #2 March 16, 2006 I truely hope to God you are kidding otherwise you will be a DGIT. A Katana is one of the most high performance non crossbraced mains made. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #3 March 16, 2006 The short answer is no. The long answer is that the Katana is an extremely aggressive canopy, one step below those being used by pro swoopers. It's definitely not intended for new folk, and you'd find very few if any dropzones that would let you jump it. Instead, look for canopies like the Sabre2, Pilot, Safire2, Sabre, Spectre, or Triathlon. All good, fun canopies that you can learn loads on without scaring yourself silly or having to visit the hospital. Titanium is expensive, and six months of pain while you're healing ain't all that either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justlovesit 0 #4 March 16, 2006 Thank you, point taken. Maybe not such a good deal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinghonu 0 #5 March 16, 2006 Check out the Classifieds here on this site (if you haven't already). There are quite a few "good" deals to be had being that it's still quite cold/yucky weather in a lot places right now. Some might even be willing to negotiate price, etc. On another note, I'd be very weary of taking any advice from this guy trying to sell you this gear. It seems that he does not have your best interest or safey in mind and just wanted to get rid of his gear quickly. "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #6 March 16, 2006 There's a lot of good reading in the Safety section (link near the top of this page). Have a read of Lisa Briggs' articles in the Gear & Equipment section, particularly those relating to choosing a canopy and buying your first set of gear. It'll clarify lots of things for you and help you to make sense of all the options. Welcome to the sport Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites firstime 0 #7 March 16, 2006 I am surprised that you are getting MIXED advice. Go with a 170 bro, that will put about 1:1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,254 #8 March 16, 2006 QuoteThe short answer is no The slightly longer answer is Hell no. Justlovesit: As has been pointed out, the canopy is completely wrong and the size is completely wrong. Please, please spend some time learning about gear because if you don't know this there's likely a hell of a lot more that you don't know.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 3331 108 #9 March 16, 2006 Take a look at Jump Shack See Technical Files: How To Select Harness and Container System How To Select The Right Canopy For YouI Jumped with the guys who invented Skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites atsaubrey 0 #10 March 16, 2006 I don't normally jump into dicussions like this but I have to on this one. Who in the holy hell is even offering you this. Do you consider death a good deal, someone needs to get their head out of their ass!"GOT LEAD?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RMURRAY 1 #11 March 16, 2006 QuoteI've been skydiving for 3 months now, A guy at my dropzone has offered me a really good deal on a rig. It's a Mirage G3 with a Katana 120 in it. I weigh 145Ibs and have 31 jumps. I'm getting mixed advice, but really want this as it fits perfectly. Is it a good idea? I am a very conservative skydiver. take care to pick your reserve well. a PD160R would be a good choice. Leave the tiny rig for the future. rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #12 March 17, 2006 At 31 jumps, that rig sounds like an excellent way to kill yourself. As a comparison, I weigh about 15 pounds less than you do and have 69 more jumps (which isn't a lot). I bought my first rig at 20 jumps under the close supervision of instructors and friends who had my best interests in mind and did not profit from my decision. It was a silhouette 190 (a good beginner canopy) with a 178 reserve (which I promptly demoed to make sure I was comfortable with it), Javelin container, and a cypres. I bought a new canopy at 90 jumps. It's another 190. It's a spectre (also a good beginner canopy, because at 100 jumps, I'm still a beginner). My wingloading is conservative. I know that. I keep it that way because when I screw up (not if, but when...everybody screws up sooner or later), I want to have the best chance possible of walking away with a few bruises instead of being carried away in a body bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ngawang01 0 #13 March 18, 2006 That Guy who offered you that "good deal" has either a brother who is an orthopedist or a funeral home owner or both. "Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Tongue-tied and twisted Just an earth-bound misfit, I". pf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyflyerh 0 #14 March 19, 2006 That guy must want you dead. I'm 10lbs lighter than you and have 72 jumps and i've just ordered my own rig with a 170 vtec from paratec, this canoapy has 2 line sattings you can get it with novice lines or experienced setting. This is the kinda thing you should be looking at. Go to your instructor, cci or clubs master rigger and ask them for some advice. Thats what they're there for. Just one other thing don't ask a dealer for advice he'll sell you whatever he deals and it might not be suitable fo you, remember you wana buy a rig so you can jump not so you can kill yourself on your 1st jump of, there should be no rush to get a smaller faster higher performance canopy. Just work on getting yourself onto the ground safely and then you can get to know what you can do with your canopy. Blus Skies and Safe landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 558 #15 March 19, 2006 Katanas are 3 categories faster than any junior jumper should use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites uponone 0 #16 March 20, 2006 Buy mine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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firstime 0 #7 March 16, 2006 I am surprised that you are getting MIXED advice. Go with a 170 bro, that will put about 1:1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #8 March 16, 2006 QuoteThe short answer is no The slightly longer answer is Hell no. Justlovesit: As has been pointed out, the canopy is completely wrong and the size is completely wrong. Please, please spend some time learning about gear because if you don't know this there's likely a hell of a lot more that you don't know.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3331 108 #9 March 16, 2006 Take a look at Jump Shack See Technical Files: How To Select Harness and Container System How To Select The Right Canopy For YouI Jumped with the guys who invented Skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atsaubrey 0 #10 March 16, 2006 I don't normally jump into dicussions like this but I have to on this one. Who in the holy hell is even offering you this. Do you consider death a good deal, someone needs to get their head out of their ass!"GOT LEAD?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMURRAY 1 #11 March 16, 2006 QuoteI've been skydiving for 3 months now, A guy at my dropzone has offered me a really good deal on a rig. It's a Mirage G3 with a Katana 120 in it. I weigh 145Ibs and have 31 jumps. I'm getting mixed advice, but really want this as it fits perfectly. Is it a good idea? I am a very conservative skydiver. take care to pick your reserve well. a PD160R would be a good choice. Leave the tiny rig for the future. rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #12 March 17, 2006 At 31 jumps, that rig sounds like an excellent way to kill yourself. As a comparison, I weigh about 15 pounds less than you do and have 69 more jumps (which isn't a lot). I bought my first rig at 20 jumps under the close supervision of instructors and friends who had my best interests in mind and did not profit from my decision. It was a silhouette 190 (a good beginner canopy) with a 178 reserve (which I promptly demoed to make sure I was comfortable with it), Javelin container, and a cypres. I bought a new canopy at 90 jumps. It's another 190. It's a spectre (also a good beginner canopy, because at 100 jumps, I'm still a beginner). My wingloading is conservative. I know that. I keep it that way because when I screw up (not if, but when...everybody screws up sooner or later), I want to have the best chance possible of walking away with a few bruises instead of being carried away in a body bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ngawang01 0 #13 March 18, 2006 That Guy who offered you that "good deal" has either a brother who is an orthopedist or a funeral home owner or both. "Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Tongue-tied and twisted Just an earth-bound misfit, I". pf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyflyerh 0 #14 March 19, 2006 That guy must want you dead. I'm 10lbs lighter than you and have 72 jumps and i've just ordered my own rig with a 170 vtec from paratec, this canoapy has 2 line sattings you can get it with novice lines or experienced setting. This is the kinda thing you should be looking at. Go to your instructor, cci or clubs master rigger and ask them for some advice. Thats what they're there for. Just one other thing don't ask a dealer for advice he'll sell you whatever he deals and it might not be suitable fo you, remember you wana buy a rig so you can jump not so you can kill yourself on your 1st jump of, there should be no rush to get a smaller faster higher performance canopy. Just work on getting yourself onto the ground safely and then you can get to know what you can do with your canopy. Blus Skies and Safe landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #15 March 19, 2006 Katanas are 3 categories faster than any junior jumper should use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
