captain1976 0 #1 May 24, 2010 Don't know where else to post it, but I'm sure someone will recommend a different forum. But I think it might be a safety issue. Some jumpers like the smell of jet fuel, but I ruined my weekend because of it. Since the way I jump usually puts me out first, I thought I’d be a nice guy and put my foot on the step while the others loaded the Otter on Saturday. Got a good dose of stink directly from the exhaust of no. 1 engine for at least a minute (waiting for the 4 way teams). I felt like shit for the rest of the day and went home about 10:30 AM after my 3rd jump. I didn’t go back on Sunday as I was still recovering. Reading up on it, I should know better as an aviator. Jet fuels contain benzene and toluene. Breathing this shit can cause pulmonary damage and I got poisoned. No more Mr. nice guy.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #2 May 24, 2010 I've often wondered the risk of breathing the smell of the exhaust (that I do love, BTW) as I blow soot out of my nose Monday and Tuesdays after being at the DZ all weekend.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SARLDO 0 #3 May 24, 2010 A couple thousand hours on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier at sea kinda makes ya immune I guess. Hell, I actually miss the smell of JP-5 and Jet-A after a while. Although, I do know a guy who gets violently ill if he comes in contact with JP. Got himself sensitive to it over years of gathering fuel samples w/o PPE."Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest" ~Samuel Clemens MB#4300 Dudeist Skydiver #68 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #4 May 25, 2010 I try to stay out of the exhaust stream as I load, jet fuel or avgas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #5 May 25, 2010 I always bottle some up for the weekdays, so after work we can huff a few hits, well and to wear a little behind the ears, drives the skychicks crazy!you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #6 May 25, 2010 ...makes ya fart butterflies ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 #7 May 25, 2010 We all love the smell, specially avgas. One or two breaths are ok, but no more. You are merely toxing your body, and surely once you are on altitude, you get less oxy, which could make things even worse. Should actually effect smokers less.You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to tell you how Fu***** stupid it is. Davelepka - "This isn't an x-box, or a Chevy truck forum" Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #8 May 25, 2010 QuoteWe all love the smell, specially avgas. No, "we" all do not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #9 May 25, 2010 Quote Quote We all love the smell, specially avgas. No, "we" all do not. Yeah! Some of 'us' love the ole radial oil shower MUCH better when loading ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #10 May 25, 2010 Hey Doc, Why would it affect smokers less ?smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #11 May 25, 2010 Quote Hey Doc, Why would it affect smokers less ? Smokers are more tolerant of smoke inhalation since they are acclimated. So in a smoke filled room you stand a better chance, but I don't think I'd take it up just for that. I'm a smoker but I must have got a real good dose.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreaming13000 1 #12 May 25, 2010 QuoteSome jumpers like the smell of jet fuel smell that?! smells like FUN!"A man only gets in life what he is believing for, nothing more and nothing less" Kenneth Hagen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #13 May 25, 2010 I know a guy that claimed he became allergic to benzene due to exposure. I don't know if it is true, or even possible... but I do know a good jumper that pretty much quit and this was the reason he gave. He still BASE jumped for quite a while, so it was not fear or anything like that."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #14 May 25, 2010 QuoteI know a guy that claimed he became allergic to benzene due to exposure. I don't know if it is true, or even possible... but I do know a good jumper that pretty much quit and this was the reason he gave. He still BASE jumped for quite a while, so it was not fear or anything like that. Benzene is really bad stuff. I use Naptha which is Benzene but I always wear gloves, it will turn your hands white. The jumper you mentioned might have been jumping out of a King Air. The exhaust comes right in the cabin with the door open and will give you a real good dose. I'm surprised I never payed attention to it before as they say, live & learnYou live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #15 May 25, 2010 Quote A couple thousand hours on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier at sea kinda makes ya immune I guess. Hell, I actually miss the smell of JP-5 and Jet-A after a while. . I was gonna say something similar. On cold days we couldn't wait til they fired up thje F4's so we coould warm up in the exhaust. mmmmmmmmm now that I think about it that could explain a lot about my personalityYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #16 May 25, 2010 Back in my ill-spent youth, I worked on the flight deck of a destroyer escort, breathing in JP5 fumes from our helicopters and whatever spewed out of the ship's stacks. All those fumes gave me sinus headaches. Fast forward to my current career and it is fashionable to do last gear checks under the tail of the King Air, sucking in all that heat and wind and noise and Jet A fumes. Will some one please explain why it is fashionable to subject tandem students to all those toxins?????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedude325 0 #17 May 26, 2010 I used to like the smell. Not so much now. I got sick to my stomach a few days ago when loading and taxiing on the PAC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #18 May 26, 2010 Quote Will some one please explain why it is fashionable to subject tandem students to all those toxins?????? And while they're explaining that, might want to give a moments thought to eye protection when standin' behind the blower... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #19 May 26, 2010 Hi Jim and all, "That smell, that gasoline (or was it keroscene) smell,...I love the smell of.....(If you don't know the rest by now...) Jet-A, JP, 100LL, 80 octane (red) and if ya' ever ran a model airplane engine that burnt shoepolish smell of "Glo-Fuel!!" They're all good. Jez depends on the sulphur content of the fuel!! Get a good blast of stack gas out at sea when the Navy is burning the high sulphur oil and ya' don't have to wonder why yer lungs are melting!! The water (H2O) in your lung tissue mixes with the sulphur dioxide (SO4)=H2SO4..Sulphuric acid!! I'm not a Chem Geek but I think that's close enough for Government work!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #20 May 26, 2010 About 15 years ago I was at Eloy doing a camp with Craig. In those days Airspeed had the NE corner of the main hangar hived off for themselves. We were sitting there debriefing while the Otters were fueling just outside. I remember being bothered by the fumes but just shrugged it off. On the next jump I was so disoriented under canopy I just couldn't figure out my pattern. It wasn't until I looked for my teammates on the ground that I realised I had landed in the student landing area. The toxic effects took a while to manifest themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #21 May 27, 2010 QuoteWill some one please explain why it is fashionable to subject tandem students to all those toxins?????? What do you suggest we do?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #23 May 27, 2010 Quote Hi Jim and all, "That smell, that gasoline smell,...I love the smell of.....(If you don't know the rest by now...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #24 May 27, 2010 >Will some one please explain why it is fashionable to subject tandem >students to all those toxins? Cause in the winter it's better than freezing! But barring that there's no reason to stand in the exhaust if you don't want to. On both Otters and King Airs it seems like the tail itself is relatively clear of exhaust; it's more to the left and right that it gets bad (depending on engine feathering etc.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #25 May 27, 2010 QuoteQuoteWill some one please explain why it is fashionable to subject tandem students to all those toxins?????? What do you suggest we do? ........................................................................... Do final gear checks near the wing-tip or anywhere else that is out of the direct prop blast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
