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Gawain 0
QuoteQuoteI hope to have a Blackberry Storm in my hands in 8-12 days.
I would wait until other carriers, besides Verizon carry it. Why? The new blackberrys have GPS built-in, but Verizon always disables it so that they can sell you an inferior cell-phone triangulation service (VZNavigator) for an addition $10/month (whereas GPS is free). Also, the new blackberrys have WiFi, but Verizon disables that as well. Why? Because they want to sell you additional bandwidth (per meg over 5 gig), and if you use WiFi at home, you're not using their network.
I'm going to drop Verizon after my contract expires, due to bad marketing practices like these. Can't complain about service, though - it's pretty good.
None of the CDMA carriers have WiFi in their Blackberries, whether it's ALLTEL, US Cell, VZW, Sprint, Telus, Bell Canada...none of the xx30 series phones by RIM have WiFi. In fact, the "new" GSM BBs don't have 3G for the GSM carriers except for the "Bold" which was delayed for 6+ months because the HSDPA wasn't performing (an issue the 3G iPhones are still dealing I understand). The Bold rollout really pinched the RIM/AT&T relationship (not that they won't do business, but I bet both relevant teams are taking a vacation).
VZW and the gang don't have a mandate about WiFi because they don't have their own hot-spots...unlike T-Mobile and AT&T who use hot-spots to make up for the spotty 3G coverage. Most of the upcoming WinMobile based devices from HTC et al for the CDMA carriers all have WiFi.
VZW will not be locking down the GPS feature set in the 9530, but to get "turn-by-turn" aGPS, VZNavigator is the one to use.
Finally, supposedly, as long as VZW can maintain sales quotas with the 9530, no one else will get it in US, though there has been plenty of conjecture to the contrary of that. I tend to think though that as VZW completes its acquisition of ALLTEL and becomes the largest US carrier, they may leverage that.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
riddler 0
QuoteVZW and the gang don't have a mandate about WiFi because they don't have their own hot-spots...unlike T-Mobile and AT&T who use hot-spots to make up for the spotty 3G coverage. Most of the upcoming WinMobile based devices from HTC et al for the CDMA carriers all have WiFi.
I think you're making the assumption that WiFi takes extra time to build into the BB. In fact, the BB Curve comes with WiFi built-in (as shown on BB's website), but VZ didn't release it for a year after it came out. They were busy disabling services that they didn't want to compete with their own (which they would miss out on charging their customers for).
Disabling the GPS must have been tough, because they needed to leave it enabled just for the 911 calls, but disable it for everything else.
Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
riddler 0
QuoteMy only other real option with decent coverage at the DZ is AT&T, which has the iPhone and the BB-Bold as top of the line devices. The iPhone isn't tetherable (a deal-killer for me), has a lesser camera that doesn't shoot video, no haptic feedback, it doesn't send MMS, and it can't cut/paste in documents.
I do have and sometimes use the tethered modem service of the BB on VZ. It works fine - as well as the USB EVDO-RevA card that I have. However, VZ charges me an extra $15/month for that service, which I think should be free with data on the BB (but the marketing people have gotten out of control, as usual).
Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
Gawain 0
QuoteQuoteVZW and the gang don't have a mandate about WiFi because they don't have their own hot-spots...unlike T-Mobile and AT&T who use hot-spots to make up for the spotty 3G coverage. Most of the upcoming WinMobile based devices from HTC et al for the CDMA carriers all have WiFi.
I think you're making the assumption that WiFi takes extra time to build into the BB. In fact, the BB Curve comes with WiFi built-in (as shown on BB's website), but VZ didn't release it for a year after it came out. They were busy disabling services that they didn't want to compete with their own (which they would miss out on charging their customers for).
The BB 8830 Curve (as designed for VZW and Sprint) does not have WiFi. Again, none of the CDMA carriers' BlackBerries have WiFi. Check any xx30 series BB. They don't have WiFi. The upcoming Niagra (89xx Curve) for VZW et al may have it, but it's not confirmed as it hasn't been released yet.
As for the 9530 Storm, according to this, there was no room on the motherboard for WiFi components.
Quote...The cost of the actuators — or more likely the space needed to fit them in — may have been an issue; the Storm doesn’t have Wi-Fi and RIM says there simply wasn’t room on the motherboard for it. But it’s also likely that RIM chose the spring-loaded screen because of the impact it would have on battery life, which the company is fanatical about....
QuoteDisabling the GPS must have been tough, because they needed to leave it enabled just for the 911 calls, but disable it for everything else.
Location based services (e.g. E911, etc) do not require GPS positioning.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
riddler 0
QuoteThe BB 8830 Curve (as designed for VZW and Sprint) does not have WiFi. Again, none of the CDMA carriers' BlackBerries have WiFi. Check any xx30 series BB. They don't have WiFi.
I agree with you - I'm just saying that the corporations (VZW) had BB build them that way to try to sell you other crap services that don't work as well. Here is the web page for the Curve, which specifically says it has WiFi and GPS:
http://www.blackberry.com/blackberrycurve.shtml
There may not be room for WiFi on the Storm's motherboard, but there is definitely room on this one - in fact, the companies intentionally disabled these services that normally come standard on the phones for marketing reasons, not because of technology restrictions, or any other reason. That's the only point I'm making. Well, that, and I'm not going to support Verizon wireless anymore for making these type of decisions that hurt consumers.
Edit:
QuoteLocation based services (e.g. E911, etc) do not require GPS positioning.
I'm not saying they do - but my BB 8330 from Verizon has GPS for 911 calls only. In other words, they disabled the GPS for consumer services because it competes with VZNavigator. But they left it in 911 calls as an easy way to comply with emergency location regulations.
Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
Gawain 0
QuoteQuoteThe BB 8830 Curve (as designed for VZW and Sprint) does not have WiFi. Again, none of the CDMA carriers' BlackBerries have WiFi. Check any xx30 series BB. They don't have WiFi.
I agree with you - I'm just saying that the corporations (VZW) had BB build them that way to try to sell you other crap services that don't work as well. Here is the web page for the Curve, which specifically says it has WiFi and GPS:
http://www.blackberry.com/blackberrycurve.shtml
You're not taking into account how these devices are designed and for whom. The BlackBerry Curve was not first released for Verizon. The first 8300 Curve was built for GSM operators, and it did not have WiFi or GPS. Only the 8320 has WiFi.
Only now, has RIM released the 8350i, for Sprint, which has push-to-talk and will have WiFi.
QuoteWell, that, and I'm not going to support Verizon wireless anymore for making these type of decisions that hurt consumers.
I completely understand that point of view, but I still don't see it solely has a VZW "lockdown" since just about every other "professional" device that's recently been, or is being rolled out, have WiFi.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Out of curiousity,,who are "GSM Operators " ?
smile, be nice, enjoy life
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BIGUN 1,053
UPDATE: Having used PDA phones for so long, one of the features I've always liked is syncing my Outlook Contacts and Calendar to my phone. Both AT&T & a couple of cellular stores told me it couldn't be done with the Rugby. Well, it can.
You go to Samsung's Dowload Center and Download Samsung PC Studio 3
Can do a true Sync
Sync phone to PC
Sync PC to phone
Will do Calendar and Contacts
Need a SAMSUNG A837 RUGBY USB Data Cable
In Business
You go to Samsung's Dowload Center and Download Samsung PC Studio 3
Can do a true Sync
Sync phone to PC
Sync PC to phone
Will do Calendar and Contacts
Need a SAMSUNG A837 RUGBY USB Data Cable
In Business
Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.
http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/samsung-rugby-sgh-a837-reviewed/
The video in the review gets old after about two minutes.
EDIT: BTW... I knocked mine off the pickup dash with enough velocity that it did the bounce across the concrete parking lot thing while I did the "fingernails on the chalkboard, oh shit shrug" thing after having it a couple of days... Not a scratch.
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