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yes, that one is ugly. any rig red with stars would be ugly. Also Jump Shack must have the worst website going. Don't judge them by this. Pick up the phone and talk to Nancy and you will be taken care of...
rm
It is not just that rig that is ugly. I have seen plenty of racers...Hartwood used to have a ton...and I just don't think the container looks good at all. The word sleek is one that just does NOT come to mind. I think it is mostly the top flap the comes down last.
But like I said, to each his own.
Elisha 1
QuoteYou look still homophobic .
[to continue being pedantic...]
So how do you know? Have you even seen me? Do you know who I am? How does someone look homophobic?
[/being pedantic]
askir 0
LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER
QuoteRacers are now the most expensive rigs out there. Power Racer's are $2150 while the shadow NOS are $1350.
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Ya get what ya pay for.....
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
Quotea rodrigues rig
I wonder how many riggers out there today even know what a "Rodrigues rig" is, was. I only pack what I feel comfortable packing. Some rigs I do not have hands on enough to feel comfortable with doing them.
And you are right, if an individual is going to be a rigger he should be educated and make every effort to continue learning. And one of the most important things for a rigger to learn is to say NO. That way he won’t have hear someone say "that guy made my rig look like crap"
When was the last time you did a GQ-1000 into the head box of an F-18 ejection seat? If one comes to your table tomorrow would you bitch about it or pack it?
Sparky
If I remember right it was called a “Solution”.
QuoteHow does someone look homophobic?
Same way how a H/C looks gay.
RMURRAY 1
QuoteQuoteHow does someone look homophobic?
Same way how a H/C looks gay.
you have 337 jumps in 6 years, jump a VectorII and have posted 1018 times since june 2003 from the hotbed of skydiving (Finland of course) and you make comments like this. Are we supposed to take you seriously???
rm
QuoteAre we supposed to take you seriously???
Khm. Why not?
rm
OUCH!!
LOL
There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on?
askir 0
Saying "no" to a customer who brings you unairworthy equipment, or equipment he/she does not have the knowledge, tools and ability to do is not only important but also the right thing to do.
Yeah and as far as the Rodrigues rig ...well I was fishing to see if anyone remembered what that was about.....love the velcro on that one....
LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER
Sparky
QuotePlease don't encourage someone to buy an old racer to freefly with. It's not a good design for freeflying.
I don't recommend anyone buy an old anything for regular skydiving use.
You also bring up a valid point about smaller Racers being more secure than larger Racers. The sample of very secure newer Racers I have seen have all been small.
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There are pros and cons of every design isn't there?
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sid 1
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I have never jumped a racer, but looks? really? That picture you posted and the rigs I have seen in person do not make racers look very appealing visually.
I guess to each his own.
These rigs look very much parapack; is yours parapack, Sid? I wonder if cordura racers look as crumply.
You want looks, go fur
Nope! My 2K3 is Cordura.
Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right?
comment on this racers being good looking because of its simplicity.. I think it is the least simple looking rig on the market. all the wrinkles and flaps closing in odd ways.. dosen't seem simple to me.. no offenceI jump a Micron, clean black with a teal split. the best looking, simple looking rig at all, I think
so what is the fuzz about this Rodrigues rig anyway??
QuoteI think it is the least simple looking rig on the market. all the wrinkles and flaps closing in odd ways.. dosen't seem simple to me.. no offenceSmile
Although vectors are pretty simple ,relatively speaking, racer has it beat by far.Maybe not exterior which is an opinion but internally racers are the most simple. 4 flaps as opposed to whatever the vector has 5?..6? or infinity 6?
How does the closing the flaps seem odd? bottom, right, left, top?
Edit: I'm pretty happy with my choice. I think I have one of the smallest and lightest rig represented on dz.com. I've held it up against the smallest sizes of mirage, javelin, and infinity.
Racer folk are to skydiving what old British sports car buffs are to motorheads... and you'll never win a differing argument with either group.
riggerrob 558
Hee!
How true!
Trick question: Why do Brits drink warm beer?
Answer: Because they have Lucas refrigerators.
riggerrob 558
Funny, the current fashion for Talons, Javelins, Vectors, etc. is also brick-like.
Similarly, if you over-stuff any rig, it will look ugly, with toggles sneaking out, etc.
John Sherman and I have never agreed on Racer pack volumes. He always insists that you can stuff a reserve one size larger - than I am comfortable with - into every size of Racer.
I suspect that our different opinions start with him being in humid Florida (where everything packs one size smaller) while I spent much of my career in dry Southern California (where everything packs one size larger).
When customers talk about ordering new Racers, I always encourage them to lie about reserve size (i.e. tell Jump Shack they have a PR160, when they really own a PR143).
In his defense, I suspect John Sherman will say something about being an industry leader in pack density.
When asked to pack "ten pounds into a five pound bag," a rigger needs to know ALL the secret tricks. ... and it takes a few hundred pack jobs - on a specific rig - to learn all the secret tricks.
Maybe I am just getting lazy - [getting???? Hee! Hee!] - because I barely pack enough Racers (maybe a dozen per year) to stay current. There are not very many Racers in British Columbia. The last time Racers were fashionable in B.C. was twenty years ago.
agreed.. The racer is fantastic. Can't beat the price either.
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