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Serious Thread: Men, Talk To Me About Respect

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Okay I'm starting this thread primarily to get a man's opinion on how important respect is. I've heard the phrase "telling a man you love him but don't respect him is equivalent to a man telling a woman i love you but I don't respect you."

So guys, how important is respect to you, in a relationship? What does respect LOOK like? How does it feel when your woman doesn't respect you?

Hallmark, movies,etc focus so much on a need to show love, well what about showing a man respect?

What do you think? Feel free to disagree and flame away. :)


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It probably doesn't make sense to you because you're a man. ;) J/K Trust me, a woman can love her husband and care about him, and not respect what he does or respect his behavior. Make sense?



Ah, but that is different than what you said in your OP.

So, which is it? She doesn't respect the man for himself, or doesn't respect his job/accomplishments?
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I'm the wrong gender to respond to your thread, but it's just so tempting to toss in my $0.02, that I'll try to type in a deep, masculine voice and see if that fools anybody. . . .

I think men and women both need love and respect, but I think they tend to need them in a different order. I think (sweeping generalization coming) women tend to want love first, then respect, and I think men tend to want respect first, then love. I agree that love and respect go hand in hand and if you have one, the other should be there as well. I just think the genders tend to gravitate to one or the other in a different order. In many ways, love and respect are two sides of the same coin.
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It probably doesn't make sense to you because you're a man. ;) J/K Trust me, a woman can love her husband and care about him, and not respect what he does or respect his behavior. Make sense?



To me, it does not make sense, but I have heard it for 15 years:S.

I also am one, who does not understand, NOT showing a person you love them.

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I would like a woman to respect me enough to tell me if she does not love me, rather than she pretend to do both. So I guess respect is very important from this perspective.

If she just wants to have sex and run, I could care less if there is respect in the morning :P

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How can you honestly say you love someone if you don't respect them? That doesn't make any sense to me...



I agree with this statement. Because if the respect is not there love will eventually be replaced with resentment. IMHO.

Some people don't always know what their SO sees as love or respect and therfore don't know how to show in a way that will be seen.

Try this: Write down respect in one column and love in the other, then you and your sit down seperately and write down what those things mean to you. Then exchange the papers and you will see how your partner (or whom ever it may be) Views these things.
It's a good excercise to learn how to show some one love and respect in a manner that they will understand.

Ok maybe I go off the topic a little, but it was my first though. Because to not be respected can be painful.

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I'm the wrong gender to respond to your thread, but it's just so tempting to toss in my $0.02, that I'll try to type in a deep, masculine voice and see if that fools anybody. . . .

I think men and women both need love and respect, but I think they tend to need them in a different order. I think (sweeping generalization coming) women tend to want love first, then respect, and I think men tend to want respect first, then love. I agree that love and respect go hand in hand and if you have one, the other should be there as well. I just think the genders tend to gravitate to one or the other in a different order. In many ways, love and respect are two sides of the same coin.



I agree! :)


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To clarify, I DON'T think love and respect are mutually exclusive of each other. I was simply wanting to focus on men and respect; the more I learn everyone seems to focus so much on love but forget to focus on respect. If I do all these lovey dovey things for my husband but yell at him or do something behind his back, I am not showing him respect which pretty much negates all of the lovey-dovey stuff. IMHO.


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I think if a woman feels genuinely loved, she will also feel respected. If a man feels genuinely respected, he will also feel loved. It's just a matter of which one is the dominant preference for men and women. I have no doubt that there are plenty of exceptions, but it's just a generalization.

(Sorry, I'll take my X chromosomes and shut them up now.)
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I think if a woman feels genuinely loved, she will also feel respected. If a man feels genuinely respected, he will also feel loved. It's just a matter of which one is the dominant preference for men and women. I have no doubt that there are plenty of exceptions, but it's just a generalization.

(Sorry, I'll take my X chromosomes and shut them up now.)


Yep, I agree with this too; but I DO believe that for men it is respect, for women it is love. Any man disagree?


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If I do all these lovey dovey things for my husband but yell at him or do something behind his back, I am not showing him respect which pretty much negates all of the lovey-dovey stuff. IMHO.



While I understand what you are saying, I disagree with this (at least the yell at him part).
Mike
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I'm not sure I understand the question...

I'm going to use my little sister as an example... she has a radically different political viewpoint then I do... now although I may not agree with her political viewpoints I do respect her opinion and I don't love my sister any less due to our differing opinions and I can certainly respectfully disagree with her opinion... as well as she can do the same with me...

I think this is kind of what you are getting at... but I could be wrong...
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here's a few things i think showing respect means- maintaining honest and open communication with the person (not gossiping or tearing the person down behind thier back, if you've got an issue you should have the integrity to discuss it with them). not taking advantage of a person and thier things or thier generosity. showing consideration for thier opinions and feelings and not minimizing them or what they say when it dosen't match with your ideals.
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What does respect have anything to do with religeon? Personally respect is tantamount in any relationship. Love and respect are two different things entirely. I love my fiancee and respect her because she lets me be me without having to change who I am to make her happy.

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What does respect have anything to do with religeon? Personally respect is tantamount in any relationship. Love and respect are two different things entirely. I love my fiancee and respect her because she lets me be me without having to change who I am to make her happy.



I was referring to a scripture that referenced respect, but edited it out. ;)


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There's a HUGE difference between respect and blind obedience. You can love and respect someone- a man or a woman- and still disagree, get mad or have and/or express your own opinion. Anyone who doesn't understand that doesn't understand what love or respect actually mean. And sorry, but love and respect do go hand in hand and I honestly don't think its possible to truly love someone without respecting them. On the other hand, you CAN respect someone you don't love.

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I suppose it is possible to love someone without respecting them. I mean isn't that what an abusive controlling signifigant other is. They can love you, but they don't respect you. Since there is no respect then they don't care about how their actions affect the one the supposidly love.

Personally I cannot love someone I don't respect.
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Wrong gender here again, but I just had to add my .02 too...;)

About a year after I separated from my now ex-husband, he called me and asked what he had done that had hurt me the most thru out our marriage. I am sure he expected me to say the endless cheating, the physical & mental abuse. But what I said brought a deep silence from him. I told him that he never respected me, and without that respect, he could never had loved me the way a husband was supposed to love a wife. Now this lack of respect was not brought on by anything that I did, he is the type of man who does not respect any woman, not even his own mother. Had I been older and wiser when I met him, I would have seen this major red flag. Now he is married again to a very young and naive girl, just like me and his first wife were... I feel so sorry for her....[:/]

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