Newbie 0 #1 August 17, 2005 I'm curious - i was looking in the gear review section and out of 25 reviews, it averages 5 out of 5 stars! That's pretty good going. I'm curious - looking at the container, it doesn't seem too disimilar from my rig which is a TS Superfly (aside from the obvious reserve pin being seated against my back). The main pin flap is just a tuck tab, there are secure riser covers - i guess you get free riser inserts and it appears customer service is very good, but i'm curious to know why they seem to be rated so highly. I can't see how it's cost, because when i costed one up against an Odessey, with the same options, it was coming out at a similar sort of price. Can anyone enlighten me? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #2 August 17, 2005 QuoteI can't see how it's cost, Well, you need to look closer into that. Call them if you want a more competitive price. Also, looking at options and pictures cant tell you much about confort. Mine came with the leg strap padding that were too short, but, Sunrise took care of that and I must say its a very, very confortable rig.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #3 August 17, 2005 It's the "I jump it so of course it's the best" syndrome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lostinspace 0 #4 August 17, 2005 I don't own a wings and I don't know much. One thing I don't like about wings (and Icons) is the size of the grommets on the dbag. Why are they so small? Good luck with whatever you choose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #5 August 17, 2005 But what I jump IS the best! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jill_UK 0 #6 August 17, 2005 QuoteIt's the "I jump it so of course it's the best" syndrome. that's probably the reason to be fair :) I'm very happy with my Wings and i was one of the people that gave it a 5* review... it is really comfortable; but for me it's the first rig i've jumped thats custom made and articulated so surprisingly enough it fits really well... it is really well made and in my opinion looks really nice (see attachment) and the customer service was very good... when i was looking at prices Wings was quite a lot cheaper than a lot of other options, which helps! but as i said it's my first rig, so i probably would have been happy with anything :) edit- apparently uploading an attachment is complicated in my world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #7 August 17, 2005 Quote It's the "I jump it so of course it's the best" syndrome. Yep, thats about it. I think the reason more newbies get into a wings is due to the cost - its generally cheaper than the other containers. I have a wings (bought when it had 20 jumps on it) with all the extras - articulated harness, quilted back pad, cordura BOC etc. Its very comfortable. I mean, very comfortable compared to the Javelins I had jumped as a student. The customer service is great too. I'm not a fan of my container atm cause packing is a bitch when you have the biggest main for the container; but thats not the fault of the container. But... the riser covers suck! I have a horrible time keeping them closed after the container is closed. It would probably work well with mini risers, but I have standard risers. Several other wings people at my DZ have said they have the same problem. The RSL lanyard is too long, with no place to store the excess. Racer is still the MOST comfortable rig I have ever had the pleasure of jumping and wouldn't be opposed to having it as my next. I love the pin protection! JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #8 August 17, 2005 Quote I have a horrible time keeping them closed after the container is closed. It would probably work well with mini risers, but I have standard risers. Several other wings people at my DZ have said they have the same problem. Are they all being packed by the same rigger? Someone's first rig is always going to feel comfortable considering that student gear is "one size fits nobody well." I love my Infinity for a variety of reasons, but I'd have been just as happy with a Wings, a Vector 3, a Talon... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #9 August 17, 2005 QuoteIt's the "I jump it so of course it's the best" syndrome. I jump it...love it...wouldn't buy another type of container but don't think it's "the best". I just don't think there's a "best" out there right now. there all the same. except price and customer service. and Wings tends to win on both. I've had nothing but a nightmare from Mirage and from Sunpath. but those are long stories that won't be rehashed... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #10 August 17, 2005 QuoteAre they all being packed by the same rigger? exactly what I was thinking... Also mailin have you contacted Wings about this? I had a problem with just one riser cover opening up often. Called wings up talked to Henri about it for a while...they built me a new rig in two weeks. It might be as easy as a rigger change...or something else. Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #11 August 17, 2005 Its packed by me 90% of the time. I have the same problem with the riser covers when its packed by a packer/rigger too... JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #12 August 17, 2005 They were referring to the reserve pack jobs. How the reserve is packed can influence things like riser covers coming open... Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #13 August 17, 2005 What we are saying is who packs the reserve? that can grossly affect how the main riser protection fit's or doesn't fit. trust me...I had to change riggers to get mine all tightened up. now it's the goods...just a matter of changing placement of material. Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #14 August 17, 2005 damn exact same time of a response...LOL Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #15 August 17, 2005 oh - well, yes. Its only been packed twice since I've owned it, and still having that problem. I'm not the only one at my DZ that has this problem either... JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #16 August 17, 2005 QuoteI can't see how it's cost, because when i costed one up against an Odessey, with the same options, it was coming out at a similar sort of price. What options did you pick? I can't see how they could be too similar. At MSRP with all options that come standard on the Javelin, The Wings is more than $400 less expensive. In fairness, the difference will be smaller at "street prices." It is an outstanding value, especially for anyone who neither needs nor wants all the bells and whistles. For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #17 August 17, 2005 Deluxe Stainless Steel, Articulated, cut in lat's, hackey and collapsible PC, but i forgot to add $250 for full articulation on the Jav, so yeah, i can see cost being fairly significant in the difference now. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 1 #18 August 17, 2005 Quotei'm curious to know why they seem to be rated so highly.Quote Like Skybytch said, some people are gung-ho about the gear they own. I had a Wings container for a while, I wasn't too amazed. It was just another rig. I sold it and replaced it with a rig that fit me better. Chris Warnock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #19 August 17, 2005 Quote But... the riser covers suck! I have a horrible time keeping them closed after the container is closed. It would probably work well with mini risers, but I have standard risers. Several other wings people at my DZ have said they have the same problem. The RSL lanyard is too long, with no place to store the excess. Jen Then let us know about it at the factory ! We'll fix it for you if you actually come and tell us you know. Just call up (813) 788 1910 and let us know the problem and we'll get it taken care of for you. No reason to let your enjoyment of your rig be spoiled by something so easily fixed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zoter 0 #20 August 17, 2005 I have just ordered mine..... Was very impressed on the overall cost... More specifically....my 'likes' A 'can do ' attitude to main/reserve combinations that are a bit strange..(ie big reserve and smaller mains) Freefly pud/Cordura Pouch/ Nice /tight/ 'Very' FF friendly containers FANTASTIC customer service ( and I dont even have mine yet...but all my queries/questions have been answered promptly by people who really seem to know what their product and are excited to tell you about it) Props to Joannie and to Ankie for great service so far....I'll never underestimate the importance of good customer service after this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mailin 0 #21 August 17, 2005 If I bought it new that would be easy, but I bought it used, and for more money than I planned on spending (it was essentially new) - spending additionally money wasn't in the cards when I first bought it (and being without it for any length of time is out of the question of course - I'm obsessed! ) Anyway, I'm gonna take some pictures for Ankie this weekend Like I said, Wings has great customer service! JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ncrowe 0 #22 August 17, 2005 Go back and look at all the big container companies and you'll see they all almost have 5 stars........or a 4 1/2 ....like bytch said I jump it so it's the best ...... "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #23 August 17, 2005 Quote Go back and look at all the big container companies and you'll see they all almost have 5 stars........or a 4 1/2 ....like bytch said I jump it so it's the best ...... How many bad rigs are out there these days? Wings is one of the cheapest, has a different promo every month, and delivered mine in less than 4 weeks. But I mostly picked it because it was the most comfortable of the various rigs I rented, esp on the legs. The Infinity is another cheaper one, but on all the ones I used I found the harness going right over my shoulder bone, not very comfy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ECVZZ 0 #24 August 17, 2005 QuoteWings is one of the cheapest least expensive, has a different promo every month, and delivered mine in less than 4 weeks. There...fixed it for ya! G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sunshine 2 #25 August 17, 2005 I don't like wings cause their logo sucks. It may be a petty reason, but it's true. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
gjhdiver 0 #19 August 17, 2005 Quote But... the riser covers suck! I have a horrible time keeping them closed after the container is closed. It would probably work well with mini risers, but I have standard risers. Several other wings people at my DZ have said they have the same problem. The RSL lanyard is too long, with no place to store the excess. Jen Then let us know about it at the factory ! We'll fix it for you if you actually come and tell us you know. Just call up (813) 788 1910 and let us know the problem and we'll get it taken care of for you. No reason to let your enjoyment of your rig be spoiled by something so easily fixed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #20 August 17, 2005 I have just ordered mine..... Was very impressed on the overall cost... More specifically....my 'likes' A 'can do ' attitude to main/reserve combinations that are a bit strange..(ie big reserve and smaller mains) Freefly pud/Cordura Pouch/ Nice /tight/ 'Very' FF friendly containers FANTASTIC customer service ( and I dont even have mine yet...but all my queries/questions have been answered promptly by people who really seem to know what their product and are excited to tell you about it) Props to Joannie and to Ankie for great service so far....I'll never underestimate the importance of good customer service after this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #21 August 17, 2005 If I bought it new that would be easy, but I bought it used, and for more money than I planned on spending (it was essentially new) - spending additionally money wasn't in the cards when I first bought it (and being without it for any length of time is out of the question of course - I'm obsessed! ) Anyway, I'm gonna take some pictures for Ankie this weekend Like I said, Wings has great customer service! JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #22 August 17, 2005 Go back and look at all the big container companies and you'll see they all almost have 5 stars........or a 4 1/2 ....like bytch said I jump it so it's the best ...... "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 August 17, 2005 Quote Go back and look at all the big container companies and you'll see they all almost have 5 stars........or a 4 1/2 ....like bytch said I jump it so it's the best ...... How many bad rigs are out there these days? Wings is one of the cheapest, has a different promo every month, and delivered mine in less than 4 weeks. But I mostly picked it because it was the most comfortable of the various rigs I rented, esp on the legs. The Infinity is another cheaper one, but on all the ones I used I found the harness going right over my shoulder bone, not very comfy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECVZZ 0 #24 August 17, 2005 QuoteWings is one of the cheapest least expensive, has a different promo every month, and delivered mine in less than 4 weeks. There...fixed it for ya! G. Jones "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around, the more I think it might not be a bad idea." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #25 August 17, 2005 I don't like wings cause their logo sucks. It may be a petty reason, but it's true. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
