markovwgti 0 #1 June 16, 2009 I bought a jet ski for 900 bucks from my gf's neighbor, i drove it a few times, had it checked out by a certified tech, it was mint, so i got bored of it and decided to sell it, i ended up selling it for 1900 bucks, the guy came here checked it out started it up with water running through revving the shit out of it for 5 minutes, he saw a little play in the shaft, he called up his friend who owns a big jet ski dealership near me and said its normal, 2 weeks later his son takes it out and some exhaust leak happened....he fixed it....he took it out 2 weeks later and it wont go over 4 grand and it bogs and backfires.....he brought it to a shop and they quoted hm 1300 bucks, he wants me to pay for half of it! Now when he bought it we didnt sign any contracts saying i will fix it if it broke or anything like that, his 16 year old son took it out and broke it obviously, now a month later he wants me to pay for half the damages saying he bought it broken meanhile he had it running for 5 minutes...He just called me and said he is taking me to small claims court...what chances do i have I have 4 people that will sign papera saying they were on it with me for an hour and ti ran fine a week before he bought it, and yes they were on it with me. Help!!! EDIT: the shaft housing and propeller went bad hit each other i guess some random bearing and some pump...i have the estimate here..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 June 16, 2009 Sold as is...I say counter-sue him for your time. You didn't sell with a warranty, so tell him to suck it up.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #3 June 16, 2009 Should have made a bill of sale. I wouldn't pay unless required to by the court, because if his buddy does the motor work for him it won't cost hardly anything and he will be making some cash. Should have made a bill of sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 June 16, 2009 Quote Now when he bought it we didnt sign any contracts Well, that sucks. Did you at least record the conversation? Quote .He just called me and said he is taking me to small claims court...what chances do i have Depends. Civil law isn't like criminal law. There isn't a guilty and not guilty, think of it as a balance beam, it can lean slightly one way or the other. Quote I have 4 people that will sign papera saying they were on it with me for an hour and ti ran fine a week before he bought it, and yes they were on it with me. Have them write up something, sign it with a Notary, then see if they can make it to court with you.When I sold my truck, I wrote up a one page contract stating that no warranty was given or implied, yada yada, signed, notarized and saved. I also recorded the transaction on audio, especially the part about him buying the truck as is with no implied or given warranty.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #5 June 16, 2009 Dont worry! If theres no contract he cant do much. Id call his bluff and tell him you will in court with bells on. He has nothing against you. Unless your state has some BS used lemmon law i wouldn't worry about it. Call a local lawyer and get a free consult about local laws. Surelly he is just trying to scare you into paying for part of it.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedude325 0 #6 June 16, 2009 Same thing happened after I sold my GSXR 600 to some "home boy." The first thing he asked me was if I could show him how to do a burn out. Two days later he was calling me with a burnt clutch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #7 June 16, 2009 no bill of sale I'd claim that he never bought it, he borrowed it, broke it, and refuses to return it-get it repaired on his dime, get it back, and resell You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pontiacgtp00 0 #8 June 16, 2009 This sounds about typical of jetski's. If it's a two stroke jetski, then it might just be fouled spark plugs. I need to change the sparkplugs after about 12 total hours of riding on my jetski. I've had previous electrical problems with mine, which I had to completely rebuild the wiring harness. 1300 bucks is a hell of a quote from the shop, I'd go half in on a repair manual with him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #9 June 16, 2009 edited to ass whats wrong with the ski Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #10 June 16, 2009 What does he expect for a used jet ski. Tell him to get FUCKED and you will see hime in court. I doubt he will go through with it anyway.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #11 June 16, 2009 QuoteWhat does he expect for a used jet ski. Tell him to get FUCKED and you will see hime in court. I doubt he will go through with it anyway. +1“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 120 #12 June 16, 2009 Your honor, "Here are four notarized affadavits from people that rode the jet ski one week before it was sold, stating that the jet ski was in good operating condition and ran properly", furthermore "the plantiff inspected the jet ski himself and sought advice from a local dealer which told him everything was OK" Your honor, "The new owner has had the jet ski for 4 weeks and has operated it at least twice, I don't believe I am responsible for any damage that has occurred" Your honor, "To the best of my knowledge the jet ski was in good operating condition when it was sold and I acted in good faith, thank you"Give one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #13 June 16, 2009 Indeed (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #14 June 16, 2009 Quote Your honor, "Here are four notarized affadavits from people that rode the jet ski one week before it was sold, stating that the jet ski was in good operating condition and ran properly", furthermore "the plantiff inspected the jet ski himself and sought advice from a local dealer which told him everything was OK" Your honor, "The new owner has had the jet ski for 4 weeks and has operated it at least twice, I don't believe I am responsible for any damage that has occurred" Your honor, "To the best of my knowledge the jet ski was in good operating condition when it was sold and I acted in good faith, thank you" This is better than some of the choice words I would like to use....So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #15 June 16, 2009 QuoteCall a local lawyer Ding ding ding. ... which should lead to some advice better than "Sick? Bleed 'em with leeches!", which is basically what the OP has gotten here so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #16 June 16, 2009 Quote no bill of sale I'd claim that he never bought it, he borrowed it, broke it, and refuses to return it-get it repaired on his dime, get it back, and resell Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! I like it. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #17 June 16, 2009 QuoteYour honor, "Here are four notarized affadavits from people that rode the jet ski one week before it was sold, stating that the jet ski was in good operating condition and ran properly", furthermore "the plantiff inspected the jet ski himself and sought advice from a local dealer which told him everything was OK" Your honor, "The new owner has had the jet ski for 4 weeks and has operated it at least twice, I don't believe I am responsible for any damage that has occurred" Your honor, "To the best of my knowledge the jet ski was in good operating condition when it was sold and I acted in good faith, thank you" this is great stuff.....thanks guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #18 June 16, 2009 QuoteQuoteCall a local lawyer Ding ding ding. ... which should lead to some advice better than "Sick? Bleed 'em with leeches!", which is basically what the OP has gotten here so far. Hey now, who's the barber here? http://www.hulu.com/watch/3529/saturday-night-live-theodoric-of-yorkStupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #19 June 16, 2009 QuoteQuoteYour honor, "Here are four notarized affadavits from people that rode the jet ski one week before it was sold, stating that the jet ski was in good operating condition and ran properly", furthermore "the plantiff inspected the jet ski himself and sought advice from a local dealer which told him everything was OK"" this is great stuff.... No; actually, it's all inadmissible hearsay unless those people (the 4 witnesses + the local dealer) are in court to testify in person. Call the lawyer. Getting legal advice from non-lawyers is like ... well, I already said what it's like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #20 June 16, 2009 Quote Quote no bill of sale I'd claim that he never bought it, he borrowed it, broke it, and refuses to return it-get it repaired on his dime, get it back, and resell Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! No, we have a loser. He does that, and it's perjury and fraud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #21 June 16, 2009 Quote Quote Quote no bill of sale I'd claim that he never bought it, he borrowed it, broke it, and refuses to return it-get it repaired on his dime, get it back, and resell Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! No, we have a loser. He does that, and it's perjury and fraud. I think he was joking. And besides, if the OP is stupid enough to go to court with advice on law from a skydiving website, then he deserves what he gets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #22 June 16, 2009 Quote go to court with advice on law from a skydiving website But Skydivers know everything, Just ask one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #23 June 16, 2009 Quote Quote go to court with advice on law from a skydiving website But Skydivers know everything, Just ask one. So if I haven't jumped in a while - does that mean I don't know everything anymore?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites