Joellercoaster 6 #26 July 13, 2010 QuoteI thought that was very nice of him too... or he didnt have a hook knife... He was a licensed jumper in the UK, so he almost certainly did (unless someone missed it during his kit check).-- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GalFisk 0 #27 July 13, 2010 I've done a few goggleless jumps - the first one was my first student jump from 4000m, the goggles blew off my face during climbout. I didn't notice, and just thought it was supposed to be windier at full altitude (I was also jumping Pac instead of the usual Cessna Turbine). A few other times I've forgotten to put the goggles on, and the last time the goggles disintegrated when I was entering the plane. It's no big deal, I cans ee just fine even though the wind blows in around my eyeballs (my RW partner said it looked "funny"). I didn't tear up until after landing, when my body caught up with my eyes being "dry". I wouldn't do it on purpose, and if I had to I think I'd remove my contacts first (cheap dailies), but otherwise it's no biggie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldschrat 0 #28 July 13, 2010 For Hop's and Pop's and a few WS-Jumps, i dont need googles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #29 July 13, 2010 QuoteFor Hop's and Pop's and a few WS-Jumps, i dont need googles. Agreed. a bug impact would suck, but I have my fair share of jumps without eye cover. And I pretty much always wear a pro-tec like helmet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #30 July 13, 2010 I have several jumps with naked eyes, the highest being from 26,000 ft. Although I will probably do more, I dont think any will be from such altitude again, my eyes hurt for hours after that jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #31 July 13, 2010 I've been told that freefall without eye protection is bad for your eyes - don't know how true that is, but it's very uncomfortable at terminal and does nothing for your vision or concentration. Of course it happens to most of us eventually through some mishap. I did it once when my girlfriend's goggles broke on run-in, and I gave her mine to use - which was kind of cool because it made me look noble. These days I wear a full face helmet, so no goggle elastic worries. But a well-placed kick from a team mate can still let the wind in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DigitalDave 0 #32 July 13, 2010 I think it's that some of us newer skydivers don't realize that us old SL guys didn't wear goggles at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danornan 64 #33 July 14, 2010 You CAN jump without eye protection, but why would you intentionally take the risk? It's one thing to happen accidentally, but to do it intentionally seems like a dumb risk with no upside potential! What are your eyes worth?Dano Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #34 July 18, 2010 i haven't worn goggles since 1973...... i do wear prescription glasses and so i have some eye protection... i keep them attached to me, with a strap... goggles were a P. I. T. A. jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jverley 0 #35 July 18, 2010 Quote You CAN jump without eye protection, but why would you intentionally take the risk? It's one thing to happen accidentally, but to do it intentionally seems like a dumb risk with no upside potential! You can say the same thing about all of skydiving. Why risk your life, limbs, sight, money, etc. with no upside. I jump regularly without goggles. It is not a big deal. I can see just fine.John Arizona Hiking Trails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychonaut 0 #36 July 18, 2010 Quote You can say the same thing about all of skydiving. Why risk your life, limbs, sight, money, etc. with no upside. We get your point but that is taking it way too broad. A bug hits your arm, stomach, foot, it's not going to affect you. That same bug hits your eye while you're in freefall, that might suck.Stay high pull low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floflo 0 #37 July 19, 2010 Quote We get your point but that is taking it way too broad. A bug hits your arm, stomach, foot, it's not going to affect you. That same bug hits your eye while you're in freefall, that might suck. Or worse, a bird! Bugs don't fly that high, or you pull really low! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychonaut 0 #38 July 19, 2010 How about ice? You get the point I'm making, just that his statement was too broad..Stay high pull low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #39 July 20, 2010 QuoteBugs don't fly that high, or you pull really low! Some insects (aka bugs) have been found at 15,000 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #40 July 23, 2010 WOW.....jumping with no goggles. THAT is dangerous. I cannot believe he would do that on purpose....he must have just forgot them. My goodness.....some people will give skydivers a bad name....jumping without goggles. VERY Dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #41 July 26, 2010 QuoteWOW.....jumping with no goggles. THAT is dangerous. I cannot believe he would do that on purpose....he must have just forgot them. My goodness.....some people will give skydivers a bad name....jumping without goggles. VERY Dangerous. That has got to be the funniest post I have ever read on DZ.com. To the original poster, if you do not get this joke, do some research on Mr chuteless, then it will make more sense. Hint: the screen name has meaning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #42 August 6, 2010 I don't think Roger Ponce ever wore shoes either....smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 369 #43 August 6, 2010 Quote I don't think Roger Ponce ever wore shoes either.... He still doesn't.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BecomeAddicted 0 #44 August 6, 2010 Yeah, I'm not a safety expert or anything, but I speak from experience when I say that I think that going without goggles is a bad idea. Mine flew off before I even jumped out (right as my feet where at the door, a gust of wind swept in at just the right angle to pull them off my face and out the door). Even though I tried to keep my eyes shut, they were still bloodshot for almost a week afterward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #45 August 6, 2010 Quote Quote I don't think Roger Ponce ever wore shoes either.... He still doesn't. And when you look at a picture of a large formation that he organized. He's real easy to find. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #46 August 6, 2010 After posting that last bit about not wearing goggles, I got to thinking about it and had a laugh.because...... I have jumped without goggles for almost all of my jumps I have jumped without a reserve...many times I have jumped without a main twice.. I have jumped without a jumpsuit many times, even wore a suit and tie on at least one. I have jumped without shoes or footwear a couple of times. I have jumped without an altimeter many times I see absolutely no need for goggles on a jump, unless you are ( like me now) getting old and the eye muscles don't want to keep the eyeball where they should be. I have jumped without an AAD on all my jumps except a dozen or so because I was using Ecuadorian military rigs on which they had been installed. I would never use one otherwise. Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
