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JohnnyD 0
QuoteI want my frivolous Bonfire back
Boobies
QuoteLet's assume you're right and they actually don't have the right to collect taxes.
Who is then supposed to pay for the services the gov't provides and how?
How did they pay for the government before the current income tax?
Do you realise the federal government operated for more years without income tax then with it?
Would it suprise you to know ,Bolas, that not one dollar of personal income tax collected goes toward paying any service provided but instead , each and every dollar of income tax collected goes toward paying the interest on the debt owed to a private banking cartel?
Don't worry.
You don't really owe it!
As I've said,
look up the definition of state within the federal tax code.
Blues,
Cliff
2muchTruth
Attention KMart Shoppers. Will all the people that recently purchased the tinfoil hats in the alien-wear department please return them for a full refund.
You are only as strong as the prey you devour
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Because it's complete and utter bullshit.
And no, I'm not in my twenties and I don't frequent jiffylube. I'm old and wise enough to know better and call out people who are completely full of shit. I would say good luck with your tax evasion scam, but we know you don't really file zero returns or make some ridiculous claims that you don't owe tax. You're certainly not actively participating in one of the days most popular scams as listed by the IRS http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=206370,00.html and without a doubt you're not on a public forum claiming to be actively engaging in tax fraud.
Go away troll.
Because it's complete and utter bullshit.
And no, I'm not in my twenties and I don't frequent jiffylube. I'm old and wise enough to know better and call out people who are completely full of shit. I would say good luck with your tax evasion scam, but we know you don't really file zero returns or make some ridiculous claims that you don't owe tax. You're certainly not actively participating in one of the days most popular scams as listed by the IRS http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=206370,00.html and without a doubt you're not on a public forum claiming to be actively engaging in tax fraud.
Go away troll.
All that effort and yet you couldn't put out the effort to seek out one simple definition within the tax code.
Interesting!
And no, I'm not a tax fraud.
I do file every form I'm required by law to file and I pay every tax I'm required by law to pay.
Thing is,
According to the definitions in the Federal tax code, I don't live in a "state". I live in Georgia.
Blues,
Cliff
2muchTruth
QuoteAttention KMart Shoppers. Will all the people that recently purchased the tinfoil hats in the alien-wear department please return them for a full refund.
LOL! Tinfoil is so out of fashion!
Aluminum foil is all the rage in the new millenium!
Blues,
Cliff
2muchTruth
Trends come and go but the classics always stay in style
You are only as strong as the prey you devour
QuoteTrends come and go but the classics always stay in style
Very true! So let's talk about a classic.
Fractional reserve banking.
Since there is only enough money created to cover the debt and not the interest, there has to be one big player who borrows enough to create an amount equal to everyone elses interest.
But if that big player ever payed off ,the system would crash. So year after year that player just goes deeper and deeper in debt. Billions become trillions and the people wonder why can't the government get a handle on spending?
Because if they ever did the entire *fiat*monetary system would immediately collapse.
Blues,
Cliff
2muchTruth
Amazon 7
QuoteIm in the middle of an audit for 2006. This twit is trying to deny 37,000 on medical that I paid for out of pocket. We have given her receipts but she keeps saying she needs more proof
. I thought the flunky's of the world worked for min. wage
. I thought the flunky's of the world worked for min. wage 
. The good thing is when my CPA did my '08 taxes she checked the IRS web sight and they hadn't reposted 2 of my quarterly payment. Doesnt sound to good until to consider the fat ass refund I just got in the mailBUt they are the morons with the power and it sounds like they are enjoying bending you over.
wmw999 2,116
Maybe the IRS auditor has boobies. JohnDeere -- can you take a picture with your cell phone and post them?
We really need to get this thread back on the BF track 
Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
Bolas 5
QuoteQuoteLet's assume you're right and they actually don't have the right to collect taxes.
Who is then supposed to pay for the services the gov't provides and how?
How did they pay for the government before the current income tax?
Do you realise the federal government operated for more years without income tax then with it?
Would it suprise you to know ,Bolas, that not one dollar of personal income tax collected goes toward paying any service provided but instead , each and every dollar of income tax collected goes toward paying the interest on the debt owed to a private banking cartel?
Don't worry.
You don't really owe it!
As I've said,
look up the definition of state within the federal tax code.
Blues,
Cliff
Debt incurred to pay for services provided. Even if it's not a direct payment, it doesn't mean it can be ignored.
Sorta like if you get a hambuger from McDonalds but someone else collects the $$$ from you to pay them. Regardless of how/if they pay for the burger directly/indirectly since you got a burger you have to pay, no matter how many middle men there are.
I'll agree the whole tax system is way too damn complex but that still doesn't excuse people who are able to pay from paying.
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
Quotelook up the definition of state within the federal tax code.
Why don't you give us a link?
QuoteQuoteThis lady is an independent auditor (that doesnt work for the IRS). So she is paid off comition
I find that more than a little bit difficult to believe.
Well that is what they are doing now.
Nothing opens like a Deere!
You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!
You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!
JohnnyD 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteThis lady is an independent auditor (that doesnt work for the IRS). So she is paid off comition
I find that more than a little bit difficult to believe.
Well that is what they are doing now.
I believe you are mistaken.
The IRS doesn't outsource audits to outside parties that have a financial interest in the outcome of the audit.
If that were the case, every audit would have the outcome appealed, sent to review, and then to court. How do you think a judge is going to rule on the glaring conflict of interest and how long to you think it would take to wrap up a typical audit?
Just not how it works and for good reason.
QuoteQuotetrying to deny 37,000 on medical that I paid for out of pocket.
FYI - not all medical is deductible. 37k is a big number to drop on your return. It's the kind of thing that will get you moving to the top of the audit list. Any CPA worth one thousandth of their bill will be able to handle it for you.
Yes i am very aware of that. I know 37k is alot to put on there but i paid 42k in medical and them fuck sticks are gonna give me my deduction I deserve.
Nothing opens like a Deere!
You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!
You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!
JohnnyD 0
QuoteQuoteQuotetrying to deny 37,000 on medical that I paid for out of pocket.
FYI - not all medical is deductible. 37k is a big number to drop on your return. It's the kind of thing that will get you moving to the top of the audit list. Any CPA worth one thousandth of their bill will be able to handle it for you.
Yes i am very aware of that. I know 37k is alot to put on there but i paid 42k in medical and them fuck sticks are gonna give me my deduction I deserve.
I'm sure your CPA will get it taken care of. That's what you pay them for.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThis lady is an independent auditor (that doesnt work for the IRS). So she is paid off comition
I find that more than a little bit difficult to believe.
Well that is what they are doing now.
I believe you are mistaken.
The IRS doesn't outsource audits to outside parties that have a financial interest in the outcome of the audit.
If that were the case, every audit would have the outcome appealed, sent to review, and then to court. How do you think a judge is going to rule on the glaring conflict of interest and how long to you think it would take to wrap up a typical audit?
Just not how it works and for good reason.
No i am not mistaken! You are wrong! The lady I am dealing with dose not work for the IRS! She does the audit and sends it to the IRS and they send it to me.
Nothing opens like a Deere!
You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!
You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!
QuoteQuotelook up the definition of state within the federal tax code.
Why don't you give us a link?
http;//uscode.house.gov/download/pls/26c79.txt
Blues,
Cliff
2muchTruth
billvon 2,384
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Enough with the politics in Bonfire. Your one warning.
Quotelook up the definition of state within the federal tax code.
QuoteWhy don't you give us a link?
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Fixed it and made it clicky.
Ok, I don't get your argument. It says:
(10) State - The term "State" shall be construed to include the District of Columbia, where such construction is necessary to carry out provisions of this title.
All it's saying is when they mention a state they are including the District of Columbia. How do you infer from that, Georgia isn't a state?
Arguing this any further would be pointless so don't bother replying.
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Fixed it and made it clicky.
Fixed it and made it clicky.
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How do you do that?
I've been warned not to discuss politics but as definitions go, if a definition lists what is included anything not listed is not included.
" Inclusio unius est exclusio alterius" Literally translated, The inclusion of one thing is the exclusion of all other things(not mentioned). Look it up in Blacks law dictionary.
Basicly one can infer that if Congress didn't include something(in this case the fifty states of the union) it was intentional.
Blues,
Cliff2muchTruth
QuoteEnough with the politics in Bonfire. Your one warning.
Respectfully,
I'm not arguing politics but rather discussing civics.
Blues,
Cliff
2muchTruth
JohnnyD 0
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No i am not mistaken! You are wrong! The lady I am dealing with dose not work for the IRS! She does the audit and sends it to the IRS and they send it to me.
FWIW I double checked with an acquaintance who is currently an IRS agent. He said the situation you are describing is not possible. Anyone conducting an IRS audit has to be a duly sworn IRS employee. He further said it would be entirely appropriate to request identification and credentials. Lastly, he said if the person was not an IRS agent, we would ask them to leave.
Take it for what its worth, but that is from an IRS agent.
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