Hooknswoop 19 #26 May 12, 2005 Quote Hook you sure about the Javalin? He stated he just got a new Wings. The wings D-Bag that I have has the two straps for attaching stow bands. Oops, missed that. How many locking stows does your bag have? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redramdriver 0 #27 May 12, 2005 The wings D-Bag that I have has the four locking grommets on the flap (locking stows), then it has a type of binding tape sewn into the top of the flap that runs vertical to the locking stow grommetts where you can attach at least 2 rubber bands on each side, but, I have used an additional band on one side because of the length of lines that I have.So, you bring your beer? Its 5 o'clock somewhere POPS #9344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #28 May 12, 2005 Then it would be odd if his D-bag didn't have them also. It could be it looks like re-inforcement tape to him. I PM'd him asking for a pic of the top flap. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #29 May 12, 2005 Quoteglad I didn't offer any ADVICE...c ya I'm really not trying to do an online bullshit fest but you advised him to double-stow the locking stows on a bag in which they're already stretched pretty tight. Sorry if I'm being "that guy" but it just jumped out at me. I apologize for the sarcastic tone but I pictured the guy heading out on his next jump and getting a bag lock or dump or some other garbage. I've heard it happen to people who try to get creative because all the cool kids have tube stows or mini bands, or some such. Again, sorry for the tone, it was out of line for the context of this conversation. Regards,"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip 0 #30 May 12, 2005 Thanks for all the feed back. Yes it is a Wings – brand new haven’t even jumped it (as I can’t even pack it yet). I still have and am jumping my older rig (the Jav). I did find the stows down the flap and I like em allot. The Bag has 4 grommets. I worked on it a bit today and it still looks a little sloppy. When keeping the line tight should I be milking it from the risers or from the last bite or both. Also - I have been using two fingers through the bands and pulling my bites through – I tried first making the bits and then wrapping the bands around them – I can see how it will help however will take some practice as I’ve got a few hundred pack jobs with my original method. As for the bands and double wrapping them – no worries I am basically using the same configuration I have been using on my Jav for the last 150 or so jumps, large bands until I get past the cascades and then small bands from there on out. It seams to hold everything just fine. I guess Ill just have to keep work on some neat housekeeping techniques – watch some pack jobs this weekend. Thanks again. neilp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #31 May 12, 2005 wow, that looks like shit... Probably will work though.. One thing you might want to think about is to really work on geting the lines neat in the stoes. This does help.. The rig on the right is my Wings and the lines are aaverage. I actually shoot for them to be more like on my Infinity on the left.... Canopies want to open and I have always been a a firm believer that you cn do a lot with the canopy and it will open good if the lines are not messed up.... Just my $0.02 Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuvToFly 0 #32 May 12, 2005 QuoteOne thing I have found when I am teaching packing is how people make the stows. I have found it much easier to make neat line stows by first making the stow in my hand and then wrapping the rubberband over it. By doing this you can work any unevenness into each bite so it is completely unnoticeable. I see a lot of newer packers putting 2 fingers through the rubberband and pulling the stow through. This could be the cause of the "sloppy cascade stows" you mentioned. That's a really good point. I was shown the pull-through method early on and it resulted in uneven stows big-time. Once I started to prefold and wrap around the entire loop things got much better - "The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #33 May 12, 2005 I found the way to make the neatest stows is fold the lines to the length you want (not too long), put the rubber band around the stow including your thumb. Hold the stow with your other hand to remove your thumb from the stow. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites