warpedskydiver 0 #1 February 1, 2011 100 dogs in Canada killed after business slows Sled dogs pull tourists during a tour run by Outdoor Adventures in the Soo Valley north of... By JEREMY HAINSWORTH, AP Tue Feb 1, 11:58 AM EST The 100 dogs were shot dead over two days after an expected post-Olympics boon in dogsledding business at an adventure company didn't pan out. Most died instantly, but others suffered — like the one that ran away with its "face blown off and an eye hanging out." The gruesome event was described in documents awarding compensation to a worker, who claimed post-traumatic stress disorder for having to shoot the dogs after bookings dropped sharply for a tour operator following the 2010 Winter Olympics. "He had to chase her down and finish her off," Marcie Moriarty, general manager of cruelty investigations for the B.C. Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, said of the wounded down that was run down and slain. Moriarty said the slaughter left her sickened and said it is the worst investigation she's ever done. Both the British Columbia SPCA and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police are investigating the slaughter. Moriarty said all the other dogs would have seen the incident in which the one dog did not die instantly from the single gunshot to the head and ran away from the worker. "There aren't words to really describe some of the ways these dogs died," she said. "We don't put cows down like that. Slaughterhouses have very strict rules for how supposed culling takes place. This violated every one of them." An employee of Outdoor Adventures Whistler was awarded compensation in a ruling by WorkSafe BC, the provincial body that manages workers' compensation claims. Outdoor Adventures did not contest the man's compensation claims. The WorkSafe documents are confidential, but Moriarty has read them as part of the society's investigation. The WorkSafe documents were obtained by radio station CKNW. The station reported the man was attacked at least twice by nearby dogs as the shootings occurred. He was forced to slit the throat of one animal who jumped on top of him. The name of the man who killed the dogs has not been released, but his lawyer, Cory Steinberg, told CKNW that it was "the worst experience (the man) could ever have imagined." The documents reveal bookings for dog sled tours collapsed after the Olympics, and when the company could not find homes for its animals, it ordered the cull. The dogs, which were part of a pack of 300, were shot over two days last April. "He was essentially told to figure out a way to make (the business) more cost-effective. They just had to have less dogs. So he did everything he could finding homes for them, having them adopted, every which way that he could," Steinberg said Monday. Graham Aldcroft, a spokesman for the company, said Outdoor Adventures had a financial stake in a company called Howling Dogs in Whistler for four years, but operational control of Howling Dogs was with the worker referred to in the WorkSafe B.C. documents. "While we were aware of the relocation and euthanization of dogs at Howling Dog Tours, we were completely unaware of the details of the incident until reading the ... document Sunday," Aldcroft said in the statement. Outdoor Adventures took over control of Howling Dogs in May, Aldcroft said. He said it is now company policy that animals needing to be euthanized are treated at a veterinarian's office. Rich Bittner, the operator of Howling Dogs in Canmore, Alberta, said he sold his 50 percent interest in the Whistler operation in 2004 to a man named Bob Fawcett. He said the Whistler tour operator was supposed to change the name because Howling Dogs was no longer involved. An online site offering support to people suffering post-traumatic stress disorder includes several postings made under the name of Bob Fawcett. It could not be immediately determined if these postings were made by the man who bought the dogsled tour company in 2004. Dogsled tour operators in the tight-knit mushing community in British Columbia expressed outrage over the killings. Several operators said they routinely adopt dogs from other companies, but were not asked to take any from Whistler in early 2010. Tim Tedford, who runs dog sled tours in the Big White area, near Kelowna, said, "That behavior doesn't sound like a real musher." "Most mushers love their dogs. That sounds more like an accountant to me. Most mushers would starve themselves before they'd ever neglect their dogs," he said. Following revelations of the slaughter, the Vancouver Humane Society on Monday called for a ban on the sled-dog tour business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 February 1, 2011 The parties responsible, owners and those who pulled the trigger should suffer same fate * the number of dogs slain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVCHUTERS 1 #3 February 1, 2011 What's extra sad is this happened almost a year ago and nobody heard about it until now, and only then because the employee went to WCB to claim post-traumatic stress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #4 February 1, 2011 The person in question didnt deserve the time off for PTSD. He could have said no, or done it humanely. Fuck that dude in his cornhole for that shit. For fucks sake he could have taken them to a no-kill shelter...at least some of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 February 1, 2011 Bunch of sick fuckers, they could at least have called the other businesses or fed the owners and employees to the dogs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 February 1, 2011 He needs to go on a ride through a wood chipper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVCHUTERS 1 #7 February 1, 2011 I agree. (that was a reply to the regulator, not the woodchipper stuff) This one's hit home pretty hard for me, and I wouldn't have been able to do what he did, no matter if my job was on the line or what. There was an article in our local paper (Edmonton) about it this morning, which had quotes from him and descriptions of what happened. All I could think of was...they why did you keep going??? But had he never opened his mouth to complain to the WCB for some compensation, this story may never have come to light. And that makes me sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #8 February 1, 2011 He needs to go on a ride through a wood chipper ------------------------------------------------------- Legs first I hope! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #9 February 1, 2011 Quote The parties responsible, owners and those who pulled the trigger should suffer same fate * the number of dogs slain. As well as everyone who did not patronize his buisness allowing him to stay open and in business.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 February 1, 2011 Greed knows now decency, animals have more morality. I would not care if the dogs ate the entire staff, it would not make up for what was caused because HUMANS bred these dogs fora purpose, then treated them worse than the most heinous criminals on earth. If someone thinks I am too harsh or does not agree, please let me know so that I may cut you out of my existence. People that do these things are not even worthy of an honorable death. Calling someone an animal would be a compliment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mailed_Fist 0 #11 February 1, 2011 We can all agree the killing of 100 dogs is a sad thing. But let's keep it real. What would the outcry be if the business owner had just turned them loose to survive or die on their own in the Alaskan wilderness? I can imagine many people decrying the poor, suffering and dying dogs in the wilderness asking, "Why didn't he just shoot them?" He shot 100 dogs because he could not care for them. Someone mentioned he could have been humane. I think shooting them in the head is pretty quick and painless. Humane. Sure - he could have had them put down like the 4.000.000 cats and dogs that are put down every year in America. Just America. And those are just the numbers from shelters. How many more are feral, neglected, abused, outright killed? But what makes that more humane? That an agent of the state is doing it? Some of those 4.000,000 are shot. Some are euthanized. So let's be careful before we raise a ruckus over 100 dogs killed in Alaska. It seems to me the guy made a good choice - he couldn't give them away so he put the dogs down rather than let them suffer. So he did it himself; so what. He saved the municipality the money it would cost to house, feed and destroy those same dogs. Yes, it's sad. Yes, it's regrettable. Yes, it's a marker of our humanity that we care for animals, nurture them and invite them into our homes and families. But just because one of us makes that choice doesn't mean we all have to. This guy made a hard decision and I imagine he hurts over it. He's not in the dogsledding business because he hates dogs. So before you go crucifying this guy, put your money where your mouth is and do something about the much greater than four million dogs and cats that are put down in America every year. The hype and hysteria over this, given the implicit hypocrisy, sickens me more than the act itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVCHUTERS 1 #12 February 1, 2011 A) it wasn't in Alaska, it was in British Columbia B) it wasn't just that the dogs were killed, it was how the dogs were killed, and for what reason. At least had they been brought to a shelter, they would have had a chance to survive, or they would have been put down humanely. These dogs were shot, chased around when they survived the first shot, throats slit, allowed to run around in panic while watching other dogs get killed. This was not a humane way to do this, and it was 100% preventable. http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/canada/2011/02/01/17113521.html Read that and then tell me what happened was ok. You'll never convince me of it. Yes, the killing of 1000s of animals each year is preventable. Hell, if I could, I'd adopt them all. But I can't, so I stopped at 5, and those that I have are fixed so they don't contribute to the problem, and they are incredibly well cared for. I also donate to my local shelters every year - putting my "money where my mouth is" so to speak. I do what I can. But just because other animals are euthanized by shelters every year makes this particular slaughter ok? That doesn't make sense to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #13 February 2, 2011 QuoteHe shot 100 dogs because he could not care for them So before you go crucifying this guy, put your money where your mouth is The problem is the guy was only thinking about money in the first place. He assembled this pack of 300 dogs to suck off the tourist dollars created by the winter olympics. Unlike a truckload of bootloeg, poorly screen-printed winter olympics T-shirts, this investment had reprecussions well beyond the closing cerimonies. It was no secret to this guy that dogs need to be boarded and fed for the rest of their lives. Despite this, he let his wallet do the thinking, and simply disposed of the surplus inventory when he was through. What a dick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #14 February 2, 2011 QuoteGreed knows now decency, animals have more morality. I would not care if the dogs ate the entire staff, it would not make up for what was caused because HUMANS bred these dogs fora purpose, then treated them worse than the most heinous criminals on earth. If someone thinks I am too harsh or does not agree, please let me know so that I may cut you out of my existence. People that do these things are not even worthy of an honorable death. Calling someone an animal would be a compliment. here we go to speakers corner . . . How many almost mothers are there that you would say the same about?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #15 February 2, 2011 QuoteHe needs to go on a ride through a wood chipper ------------------------------------------------------- Legs first I hope! Do the two of you(regulator & warped) eat meat?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #16 February 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteHe needs to go on a ride through a wood chipper ------------------------------------------------------- Legs first I hope! Do the two of you(regulator & warped) eat meat? Which begs the question: Don't they have Chinese restaurants in Alaska?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #17 February 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteHe needs to go on a ride through a wood chipper ------------------------------------------------------- Legs first I hope! Do the two of you(regulator & warped) eat meat? Which begs the question: Don't they have Chinese restaurants in Alaska? You are BAD!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #18 February 2, 2011 I think most of you got he idea, that if you HAVE to kill an animal, you do not do it in a haphazard or cruel manner. I don't do that to even nuisance or diseased coyotes. The guy that wants PTSD payments and the rest of that crew should suffer. No benefits, no redemption. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #19 February 2, 2011 The even better questions is, there are an awful lot of extra Chinese people, the dogs could last a lifetime or several generations off of just their criminals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #20 February 2, 2011 Quote He needs to go on a ride through a wood chipper *Sigh*. This is the kind of thread I was referring to in this one. I was joking about only wanting to see froth in the bonfire, but I do feel the need for some now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #21 February 2, 2011 The fact is that quite a few of would actually do it. We have seen enough shit in one lifetime to actually not be bothered too much when someone has it coming to them. Opinions may vary but facts are facts. No, I don't want to see an innocent person suffer, likewise I think human shit stains are nothing more than something that needs to be wiped from your shoes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
