kallend 1,623 #1 September 14, 2011 online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #2 September 14, 2011 You my good man are right! WTF is this thing?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #3 September 14, 2011 Quote online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides. Sounds like it has about the same lift capacity as a Saturn V as well. Its slighly smaller, but other that that whats the advantage over the Saturn V?__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #4 September 14, 2011 QuoteQuote online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides. Sounds like it has about the same lift capacity as a Saturn V as well. Its slighly smaller, but other that that whats the advantage over the Saturn V? Perhaps it will be made in China.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #5 September 14, 2011 Saturn first stage used F1 engines with kerosene/LOX propellants. Per the article, this will use SSME's with LH2/LOX propellants. That's a pretty big change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 2 #6 September 14, 2011 QuoteQuote online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides. Sounds like it has about the same lift capacity as a Saturn V as well. Its slighly smaller, but other that that whats the advantage over the Saturn V? Well, there is no Saturn V. This is actually funny ( I follow Nasa news ). This is an Ares V ( which evil Bush and Mike Griffin planned. ) Everyone said that wouldnt work, junk. So here it is with a new name and it is great. I like it, I just want us to fly. And yesterday ATK in Utah said they would make Ares 1, I mean Liberty, the new name!!!!! And we have the Orion spacecraft, I mean the new whatever name it has now !!!! It is all very funny except that there is no mission for them, except space station. Maybe that will change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 September 14, 2011 yeah - Saturns are great cars ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 September 14, 2011 Quote.... which evil Bush and Mike Griffin planned. )..... doubt it ... bush could plan a bowel movement -- it may have been planned on his watch but would have had fuck all to do with him. Politicians just like to claim stuff. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #9 September 14, 2011 Quote Quote .... which evil Bush and Mike Griffin planned. )..... doubt it ... bush could plan a bowel movement -- it may have been planned on his watch but would have had fuck all to do with him. Politicians just like to claim stuff. bush must have a pretty big watch then! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quincy 0 #10 September 14, 2011 You know ... this is truly a sad time we live in. The article says the first manned flight will be in 2021. Lemme see ... that's 10 years from now. Back in the 60's, we went from NO manned flights ... zero ... zip ... nadda ... to a man on the moon in less than 10 years. Have we ever slipped as a nation...!!!... Profoundly sad indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #11 September 14, 2011 Quote You know ... this is truly a sad time we live in. The article says the first manned flight will be in 2021. Lemme see ... that's 10 years from now. Back in the 60's, we went from NO manned flights ... zero ... zip ... nadda ... to a man on the moon in less than 10 years. Have we ever slipped as a nation...!!!... Profoundly sad indeed. If they would have stuck with the Ares program, which at the time it got canned had gone through two test launches, if I recall correctly, we could have been back to manned flights a lot sooner, but what do I know.... Fucking political meddling.... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #12 September 14, 2011 Quote online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides. What else should it look like?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 September 15, 2011 The first two graphics in the article look more like the Saturn. Bu the last graphic (on the right) looks quite different. Which one is it really? If I had the chance, I'd ride that sucker in a flash.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #14 September 15, 2011 QuoteQuote online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides. What else should it look like? I always thought they should look like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 2 #15 September 15, 2011 Have we ever slipped as a nation...!!!... Profoundly sad indeed. Sadly very true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #16 September 15, 2011 Quote Quote Quote online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides. What else should it look like? I always thought they should look like this. see attached! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #17 September 15, 2011 Quote The first two graphics in the article look more like the Saturn. Bu the last graphic (on the right) looks quite different. Which one is it really? If I had the chance, I'd ride that sucker in a flash. I'm sure the one on the chart is more correct. The pretty pictures were just some artist's concept using existing stuff. Pretty poor try, if you ask me. I'd ride that sucker too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 September 15, 2011 Quote Quote You know ... this is truly a sad time we live in. The article says the first manned flight will be in 2021. Lemme see ... that's 10 years from now. Back in the 60's, we went from NO manned flights ... zero ... zip ... nadda ... to a man on the moon in less than 10 years. Have we ever slipped as a nation...!!!... Profoundly sad indeed. If they would have stuck with the Ares program, which at the time it got canned had gone through two test launches, if I recall correctly, we could have been back to manned flights a lot sooner, but what do I know.... Fucking political meddling.... Pie in the sky grandiose schemes... have to be funded... No Bucks... No Buck Rogers Perhaps a few less wars since I was a kid in the 1950's and 1960's.... and we WOULD have been a lot farther out into space. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmiwy 0 #19 September 15, 2011 Quote online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576570583021682082.html Looks like a Saturn V with a couple of SRBs strapped on the sides. That's a beautiful piece of engineering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #20 September 15, 2011 QuoteSaturn first stage used F1 engines with kerosene/LOX propellants. Per the article, this will use SSME's with LH2/LOX propellants. That's a pretty big change. Pretty big difference in Isp. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #21 September 15, 2011 Quote Perhaps a few less wars since I was a kid in the 1950's and 1960's.... and we WOULD have been a lot farther out into space. I think it might be the opposite. If CCCP had not been so shitty at manned space vehicle development, (but just as ambitious), and "Russia" had not gone through it's regular 30 year re-organization, we would still be in a space race. Saturn V was supposed to take men to VENUS in the 70s, but russia pulled out like a bunch of bitches, so there was no motivation. This Saturn V look alike is just like the 20 other "in development" space vehicles NASA tries to use to stimulate public interest, only to be just down by the next leaders due to "budget cuts". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #22 September 16, 2011 QuoteSaturn V was supposed to take men to VENUS in the 70s, but russia pulled out like a bunch of bitches, so there was no motivation. Uh... I don't think we want to go to Venus... I don't know what the NFPA placards would look like for the surface of Venus... but they wouldn't look good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #23 September 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteSaturn V was supposed to take men to VENUS in the 70s, but russia pulled out like a bunch of bitches, so there was no motivation. Uh... I don't think we want to go to Venus... I don't know what the NFPA placards would look like for the surface of Venus... but they wouldn't look good. I agree a LANDING would not be an ideal venture short of "defying gravity" scifi, but the 'plan' was to send some flyboys out there for not much shy of 2 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_Venus_Flyby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #24 September 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteSaturn V was supposed to take men to VENUS in the 70s, but russia pulled out like a bunch of bitches, so there was no motivation. Uh... I don't think we want to go to Venus... I don't know what the NFPA placards would look like for the surface of Venus... but they wouldn't look good. Isn't Venus way too fucking hot for any manned missions?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites